Neo-conservatives - Within the Dubya regime

[Palmares]

What do people think of the neo-conservatives in the US government?

They are said to be Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz and others. They are also known as 'hawks' are 'Reaganites' for obvoius reasons.

What puzzles me, is that they say neo-conservatives are old Stalinists (or similar leftists) who have changed to extreme right-wingers.

All I can say is, WTF?

[Palmares]

Sorry bout this being up twice.

[Palmares]

Anyone?

What I have heard about them is that they are the driving force behind Dubya's aggressive stance in foreign policy. Especially Paul Wolfowitz, who had the idea of 'pre-emptive' strikes 10 years ago.

[synthesis]

I think the term neo-conservative itself is a bunch of bullshit and was only invented so as to further obscure an already muddled semantics situation within the U.S. political system.

Of course, then you have neo-liberal which is usually made use of in an entirely different fashion than liberal.

[antieverything]

...that's sort of the subject of the IL article I'm writing right now.

[Liberty Lover]

Perhaps the most substantiated theory regarding an "ulterior motive" for the forthcoming war on Iraq is that it is a neo-conservative plot. As it happens I agree with the philosophy of the neo-cons so if that theory is true I'm a happy chappy :)

In regard to foreign policy neo-cons basically see the world in two groups...the democracies and the dictatorships. They believe that it is essential for the democracies to confront, with force, the dictatorships in order to preserve and spread ideals of freedom.

Jews that lived under the Nazis and migrated to the USA were amongst the first neo-cons. They fell in love with liberty and have since advocated it’s spreading, by armed force if necessary, across the world.

I wouldn’t really call them 'Reaganites', as they were around a long time before Ronnie. I also wouldn’t go as far as to call Reagan a neo-con. But basically Reagan was the first U.S. president to really take it up to totalitarian Russia, something the neo-cons had consistently lobbied for.

The theory that neo-cons are behind the drive for war in Iraq is, thankfully :), not without justification. They seem to have an overwhelming influence on Bush. The speech he gave a few weeks ago, where he suggested the post-war Japanese and German model would be duplicated in a post-war Iraq, was given to the AEI (American Enterprise Institute), a leading neo-conservative ‘think tank’. If the neo-cons are driving the war it would mean that American objective number one in Iraq would be the establishment of a democratic regime, with Iran, Syria and Libya to follow suit (That bit gets me really excited :) ).

Note also that Neo-cons regarded the betrayal of Iraqi resistance groups following the Gulf War as “shameful”.

[Show me the Money]

neo-cons are mostly us-jews who want take all (political/economic/military) power from the Arabs.

they sometimes have connections with the Mossad too, hence the popularity of the «think tanks».

[Liberty Lover]

neo-cons are mostly us-jews who want take all (political/economic/military) power from the Arabs.


They want to take power away from Arabs who give
$30 000 incentive packages to the families of Palestinians who are willing to blow themselves up for the cause of eradicating the Jewish race...I don't see a problem with that.

[革命者]

the jews are not a race and the palestinians are opressed people, goddamnit!

and altough je will not agree with the latter statement, you have to admit Jews Are NOT A RACE!!!!

the Arab world is for the Muslim Arabs, not for zionist jews.

[Show me the Money]

i recommend you read some books by the jewish writer Alfred Lilienthal.

Sho Mo

[Palmares]

Neo-cons are fools.

They can go and justify their own demise.

(Edited by Cthenthar at 9:59 am on Mar. 14, 2003)

[synthesis]

Scotty: What's your definition of a Jew?

[Liberty Lover]

the jews are not a race

Jews are descendents of the Hebrew race, and are marked by there adherence to Judaism.


the palestinians are opressed people

Opressed by Arafat

[革命者]

imo, Jews are a self proclaimed Judaist «race», and therefore it's more a religion than it is a race.

it's impossible to say where so many ppl, spread all over the world, descent from.. they can be palestinians, for i care...

Scotty.

[革命者]

and Arafat doesn't opress his ppl, if he just was a tiny little less softer maybe he could prevent some terrorist attacks, tho.

Fuck Sharon! Fuck the zionists! Fuck all companies supporting Isreal's occupation!

[Old Friend]

you have to admit Jews Are NOT A RACE

What the hell are you talking about? This ought to be interesting.

[Show me the Money]

Naturalists and ehnographers divide mankind into
several distinct varieties, or races. Cuvier refers
them all to three, Pritchard enumerates seven, Agassiz
eight, Pickering describes eleven. One of the common
classifications is that of Blumenbach, who makes five
races: the Caucasian, or white race, to which belong
the greater part of the European nations and those of
Western Asia; the Mongolian, or yellow race, occupying
Tartary, China, Japan, etc.; the Ethiopian, or negro
race, occupying most of Africa (except the north),
Australia, Papua, and other Pacific Islands; the
American, or red race, comprising the Indians of North
and South America; and the Malayan, or brown race,
which occupies the islands of the Indian Archipelago,
etc. Many recent writers classify the Malay and
American races as branches of the Mongolian.