I'm All Geeked Up Over Military's New Bomb - The MOAB

[Old Friend]

Although the little town of Moab, Utah hates this kind of publicity, I think the MOAB will be good for business, military business. In an effort to further intimidate the Iraqi Army, and deter them from actually fighting, the Pentagon released word of its latest addition to its long list of ordance, the MOAB. MOAB is short for Massive Ordance Air Burst, and it puts the Daisy Cutter to shame. Certainly, this is another one of today's engineering marvels. This 21,000 pound bomb will surely instill fear in the hearts of men, as its impact is similar to that of a small nuclear weapon. Good move, Rumsfeld. Nice use of Psyops to further shake up the Republican Guard. Hooray for explosives!

source: ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/sections/wnt/World/newbomb030225.html)

[Old Friend]

I thought for sure this would get a response. Aren't you going to call me a warcrimes apologist, or something to that effect? I thought for sure somebody would be disgusted with my pure excitement over a tool of war.

[Political Suicide]

Its a magnificent weapon, i'll give you that. But is it really necessary? Do we not have enough sufficient weapons to topple Iraq? Why do we need a 21,000 lb. bomb? Sure, it'll scare the fuck out of the Iraqi Army. But, it sure as hell won't discriminate between civilian and military targets, seeing as its blast is so large. If this bomb is to be used in Iraq, we can only predict that civilian casualties will be immense, especially if it is to be used in Baghdad.

[Old Friend]

To put it into perspective; remember the practice of 'tank planking' that occurred during the 1st Gulf War? A-10 tank killers had to target tanks individually and destroy them one by one. Now, with MOAB, tanks can be destroyed within a 1000-2000 square yard surface. Infantry can be disintegrated with than same radius, and kill up to 1.5 miles away because of the impact and shear force. Of course, this is not a weapon that should be used over civilian areas. However, it will allow us to make short work of the Iraqi Armored Divisions and infantry, meaning less sortees and less expenditure. By simply demonstrating this weapons power, the Iraqi army may have already lost the desire to fight. They might surrender as soon as action starts , for fear of being disintegrated without the possibility of firing a shot at our troops. Now do you see the utility?

(Edited by Old Friend at 10:47 pm on Mar. 12, 2003)

[Disgustipated]

Unfortunately, the US will probably use that in Urban areas if they feel the need to root troops out. The death toll to civilians will be astronomical. The US has already stated that they would consider low yield nukes if the situation called for it, so I'm sure using a massive conventional weapon isn't that much of a stretch.

Even if they do use it in Baghdad or other urban areas, no one will know about it because they have an almost complete journalistic/reporter blackout.

Keep in mind, that the US has yet to develop a weapon that it hasn't used on innocents.

(Edited by Disgustipated at 4:19 pm on Mar. 12, 2003)

[Political Suicide]

I understand what you mean Old Friend. It may be well utilized against concentrations of tanks, and large concentrations of infantry. But, it would be too risky and cause too many civilian casualties should it be used on or near any cities or civilian area. If used correctly, and humanely, it would show awesome strength. Used incorrectly, and it would show pure brutality and little care for civilian losses.

[lifetrnal]

Wow, one more weapon that the United States can export to a foriegn country, afterwhich, the United States can procede to bomb the said country for possesing weapons of mass destruction. Its great for the manufacturor of the MOAB, because the United States will have to buy even more weapons from them to prosecute the said war. Let's here it for Capitalism and the MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX! Yippie! BTW, didn't Eisnhower mention something about this happening in our future?


(Edited by lifetrnal at 6:45 am on Mar. 13, 2003)

[Blibblob]

What happended to the great Sun Tzu!

"Hence to fight and conquer in all your battles is not
supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting."- Sun Tzu, "The art of war"

I find this will be a great morale breaking weapon, but i am deeply worried that it will be used; the largest reason to have it is for fear; the only reason we have nukes now, is for fear. I have no doubt that they might issue a cowardly command to wipe out Iraqi forces before they have a chance to retaliate. And if that occurs, i will try very hard to assasinate whoever issued that cowardly command.

[Palmares]

This is stupid.

But I guess it will help scare Saddam a little more.

[Blibblob]

Isnt that what i said?, it looks like thats what i said. Does anybody ever read what i post?!

[suffianr]

MOAB = Making Orphans America's Business.

[Anonymous]

I hope they use it. It would be interesting to examine the aftermath. Especially the effect a bomb of such power would have on the frail Iraqi soldiers bodies.

[suffianr]

Especially the effect a bomb of such power would have on the frail Iraqi soldiers bodies.

Oh, spare me the melodrama...

[Blibblob]

Thats quite cruel, i never thought something that ignorant and stupid would come from you, i guess ill have to lower my expectations; they were quite high for a capitalist.

[synthesis]

Nice one, suph :biggrin:

[peaccenicked]

Old Fascist and Dense Capitalist.
You are some of the sickest puppies I have seen and I have did voluntary work in Prisons.

[Anonymous]

WTF I'm serious. It would be quite interesting to see the affects of a sub-nuclear explosion on the human body. Anyway they're enemy soldiers, they know the risks involved, if they're willing to die for Saddam the they might as well make a contribution to science while doing it.

Mind you I'm speaking on the Republican guard here. I realize most Iraqi soldiers don't want to fight at all. But if they die...oh well, at least they're deaths won't be in vain.

(Edited by Dark Capitalist at 6:56 am on Mar. 13, 2003)

[Anonymous]

Quote: from peaccenicked on 6:52 am on Mar. 13, 2003
Old Fascist and Dense Capitalist.
You are some of the sickest puppies I have seen and I have did voluntary work in Prisons.


How is this sick?

[Anonymous]

Quote: from Blibblob on 6:07 am on Mar. 13, 2003
Thats quite cruel, i never thought something that ignorant and stupid would come from you, i guess ill have to lower my expectations; they were quite high for a capitalist.


If we're going to use it anyway we might as well examine the effects it had on their bodies instead of just letting them rot in the dessert sun. Like I said, their deaths won't be completely in vain as they would be making a contrinution to science.

[Hampton]

If you wanna see the affect it has on the human body drop it on the White House.

[suffianr]

Come on DC, you're better than that...

Dropping a sub-nuclear bomb on people just to see how they fry isn't terribly scientific to me...Whether or not your esteemed nuclear physicists care about how fast Iraqi soldiers get vapourized is immaterial; all your generals are concerned with is whether or not it gets the job done.

Ever dipped your pinkie in a pot of boiling water? Ouch! Oh, that hurt, didn't it?

So your point is:

Hmmm, let's see how much it hurts! Let's see how fast all my nerve-endings died, how my skin shrivelled and how loud I yelled.

Don't try to intellectualize weapons of mass destruction here. You'll come off sounding like an even bigger moron than Stormin'. :biggrin:

[Non-Sectarian Bastard!]

Quote: from Old Friend on 8:04 pm on Mar. 12, 2003
To put it into perspective; remember the practice of 'tank planking' that occurred during the 1st Gulf War? A-10 tank killers had to target tanks individually and destroy them one by one. Now, with MOAB, tanks can be destroyed within a 1000-2000 square yard surface. Infantry can be disintegrated with than same radius, and kill up to 1.5 miles away because of the impact and shear force. Of course, this is not a weapon that should be used over civilian areas. However, it will allow us to make short work of the Iraqi Armored Divisions and infantry, meaning less sortees and less expenditure. By simply demonstrating this weapons power, the Iraqi army may have already lost the desire to fight. They might surrender as soon as action starts , for fear of being disintegrated without the possibility of firing a shot at our troops. Now do you see the utility?

(Edited by Old Friend at 10:47 pm on Mar. 12, 2003)


It doesn't make any sense, Iraq has already stationed much of the Republican Gaurd near and in Bagdad. Surely they will drop those on Bagdad.

And large groups of infanterie and tanks don't occur on the battlefield. If you really want to strike efficiently in a such a small radius, it has to be during a transport or a march, which will kill the civilians who are watching.

[Non-Sectarian Bastard!]

Quote: from Dark Capitalist on 1:56 am on Mar. 13, 2003
WTF I'm serious. It would be quite interesting to see the affects of a sub-nuclear explosion on the human body. Anyway they're enemy soldiers, they know the risks involved, if they're willing to die for Saddam the they might as well make a contribution to science while doing it.

Mind you I'm speaking on the Republican guard here. I realize most Iraqi soldiers don't want to fight at all. But if they die...oh well, at least they're deaths won't be in vain.

(Edited by Dark Capitalist at 6:56 am on Mar. 13, 2003)


OMG like I am talking to a SS doctor.

[American Kid]

OMG like I am talking to a SS doctor.

So this is very surreal because in the past I have been on much better terms with Dark Capitalist than I have with CCCP, but the Afgani has a point here, dude. :) There was definetely something disturbingly ghoulish and Mengele-ish about that last comment...lol.

You were like the little kid who you used to fry worms under a magnifying glass at recess weren't you (insert DC's real first name here- which I know. Ha.)?

-Dave

[M1 Abrams]

While I by no means would consider the effects of the M.O.A.B on humans "interesting", I do think that's it's use is both warrented and necessary. Be it a depleted uranium round or the M.O.A.B the sons a *****es are going to die anyway. The kid gloves are off with Saddam. As well they should be.

[American Kid]

LMAFAO

Ladies and gentlemen, AK's real-life writing partner ^^^^^^^

for seriously.

Be nice to him.
-AK

[abstractmentality]

Quote: from M1 Abrams on 11:07 am on Mar. 14, 2003
While I by no means would consider the effects of the M.O.A.B on humans "interesting", I do think that's it's use is both warrented and necessary. Be it a depleted uranium round or the M.O.A.B the sons a *****es are going to die anyway. The kid gloves are off with Saddam. As well they should be.
so, according to you, this http://www.morizumi-pj.com/iraq/b1/iraq04.jpg
and
http://www.morizumi-pj.com/iraq/b1/iraq08.jpg
and
http://www.morizumi-pj.com/iraq/b1/iraq05.jpg
and
http://www.morizumi-pj.com/iraq/b1/iraq06.jpg
are all pictures of things that are "warranted and necessary?"

(Edited by abstractmentality at 1:34 pm on Mar. 14, 2003)

[Zombie]

Remember Hiroshima and Nagasaki? I'm sure u're all proud of what u did... real proud.
U talkin of how great the MOAB is?
what if i dropped it on ur family?? oh goody that would be fucking amazing!!!!!
Nazi fuckups