The essence of Communism - What it all boils down too.

[knowledge]

Websites like this are designed by oppressed citizens of Communsitic governments. When will you people realize, and come to grips with the fact that Communism never has and never will succeed? Why does thousands of Cubans attempt to escape Cuba and flee to the United States every year? Why has Communism fallen in the country formerly known as the USSR? Why is America so powerful, and at the same time, rich in culture, as compared to dictatorships such as Cuba, the former USSR, or China?
Why, you ask? Because America is the greatest nation to ever grace the presence of humanity. Unfortunately, there are many feeble and weak minded humans who live their lives in search of the impossible as opposed to the obtainable. "Gather 'round newborn children of a Marxist based government, today we shall break the unfortunate news to you that you can never be wealthy. Sure, you can spend a plethera of years studying to be a doctor as you were assigned by your oppressive government, but here's the catch, no matter how much you want to succeed, you will always be paid the same as the bum next door, or the drunk down the street."

In closing, I can only wish that Che Guevara had been born an American. If fate had only dealt those cards, Ernestito would never have fallen for Marxist slander and jibberish. So ban me, or whatever, silence the speaker of truth. Long Live The United States of America. "Death before dishonor."

[peaccenicked]

How many times has some looney rightist posted this gibberish?

[EnvelopedInFear]

And how many times have you played it off, and not addressed it?

I'd love to be a commie, there has to be some good perks since you all are such diehards, and its obviously not an easy government to make successful. Care to fill me in.

And don't direct me to the Manifesto of Communism, I've started to read it, and I'm not done yet....

[synthesis]

How many times have we heard each and every one of these fucking bullshit lines before? We should just make a fucking FAQ.


Websites like this are designed by oppressed citizens of Communsitic governments.

Uh?


When will you people realize, and come to grips with the fact that Communism never has and never will succeed?

HOLY FUCKING SHIT! Guys, I think he just may be right! I'd better give up this communist biz.


Because America is the greatest nation to ever grace the presence of humanity. If you define 'great' as 'killing a whole shitload of innocent people' well, sure, America's pretty great, but then I'd think you'd need to have your head checked.


So ban me, or whatever, silence the speaker of truth. Ah,so now you're speaking truth to power, I see. Hitler said that originally.

You're a fucking moron. Don't come back here.


(By the way, what the fuck is wrong with this quoting system?)

[peaccenicked]

http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/top...um=22&topic=582 (http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/topic.pl?forum=22&topic=582)

[canikickit]

we shall break the unfortunate news to you that you can never be wealthy.

Your priorities are screwed up.


Because America is the greatest nation to ever grace the presence of humanity.

I'm glad that, at least, Enveloped in Fear can see true nature of US "greatness" is the subjugation of other nations. I spit on all those who think the US is the "greatest".

[EnvelopedInFear]

Because America is the greatest nation to ever grace the presence of humanity. If you define 'great' as 'killing a whole shitload of innocent people' well, sure, America's pretty great, but then I'd think you'd need to have your head checked.




Oh God, this made me laugh so hard. You should write a book of your quotes. Or maybe just write that quote over and over again on 130 pages and sell it.

[peaccenicked]

http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/top...ic=590&start=10 (http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/topic.pl?forum=22&topic=590&start=10)

[DEFMARX]

knowledge - (ironic title) - let me clue you in on some things, even though I doubt you will even have the mind to return and read any of these.
Every single peice of your intriguing and strikingly original critique yield no merrit whatsoever. YOU are the cancer of society. YOU are the reason tyrannies, dictatorships, and inhumane regimes reign over nations of people. YOU are the weak minded and the extinguished soul.
However, I still have love for you, because I think you honestly think in your heart of hearts that you are right and are supporting the right ideal. I think that you believe to simply be posting your thoughts on web site full of poorly and pathetically misguided minds.
You, however, have done nothing but shit out a series of rediculously uninspired thoughts and misconceptions about both communism and your own society. I believe that next time you should do your homework before you attempt to flash your intellect, unless you don't have a problem advertising your complete lack of analytical and logical thought.
And then to add insult to injury to go ahead and quote Tupac. Man if he was alive right now he would pistol whip your ass.

(Edited by DEFMARX at 9:14 am on Mar. 11, 2003)

[sc4r]

Quote: from EnvelopedInFear on 3:31 am on Mar. 11, 2003
And how many times have you played it off, and not addressed it?

I'd love to be a commie, there has to be some good perks since you all are such diehards, and its obviously not an easy government to make successful. Care to fill me in.

And don't direct me to the Manifesto of Communism, I've started to read it, and I'm not done yet....


Personally I've addressed each and every one of those amazingly insightful comments 564 times this year. It never makes any difference because the people posting them dont actually listen to the answers and simply repeat it again the next day as if it were fresh. I can only think they have the retention powers of an absent minded goldfish.

I also wish I had a $ for every capitalist who 'knows that he understands communism' because he has read the manifesto. The manifesto is not an analytical description of communism or socialism. It was written for people who already knew, understood, and supported the basic theory. It is in fact basically an action plan.

You could start your journey of understanding by repeating 50 times each day until you have understood it 'Socialism is democratic; if it is not democratic then it isnt socialism' and see what even this very elementary insight implies for some of the nonsense you presumably subscribe to.

[che cuevas]

why communism will never work. First of all one way you can tell that it wont work is because people are always trying to get away from the countries that are communist and usually come to America. People like being free communist try to keep everybody sheltered alot of the times people leave communist nations is because of religion people should be free to do in hwat they do not ordered by there government. Communist are falling and they will not prosper.

[ComradeJunichi]

Quote: from knowledge on 3:24 am on Mar. 11, 2003
Websites like this are designed by oppressed citizens of Communsitic governments. When will you people realize, and come to grips with the fact that Communism never has and never will succeed? Why does thousands of Cubans attempt to escape Cuba and flee to the United States every year? Why has Communism fallen in the country formerly known as the USSR? Why is America so powerful, and at the same time, rich in culture, as compared to dictatorships such as Cuba, the former USSR, or China?
Why, you ask? Because America is the greatest nation to ever grace the presence of humanity. Unfortunately, there are many feeble and weak minded humans who live their lives in search of the impossible as opposed to the obtainable. "Gather 'round newborn children of a Marxist based government, today we shall break the unfortunate news to you that you can never be wealthy. Sure, you can spend a plethera of years studying to be a doctor as you were assigned by your oppressive government, but here's the catch, no matter how much you want to succeed, you will always be paid the same as the bum next door, or the drunk down the street."

In closing, I can only wish that Che Guevara had been born an American. If fate had only dealt those cards, Ernestito would never have fallen for Marxist slander and jibberish. So ban me, or whatever, silence the speaker of truth. Long Live The United States of America. "Death before dishonor."


Websites like this are designed by oppressed citizens of Communsitic governments.

Malte?

When will you people realize, and come to grips with the fact that Communism never has and never will succeed?

It is a fact? Can you prove this?

Why does thousands of Cubans attempt to escape Cuba and flee to the United States every year?

Why do thousands of Mexicans jump borders to America every year? You cannot put the whole blame on "communism".

Why has Communism fallen in the country formerly known as the USSR?

The causes of the fall of the Soviet Union are much more than simply "communism".

Why is America so powerful, and at the same time, rich in culture, as compared to dictatorships such as Cuba, the former USSR, or China?

When you ask about America being "powerful" do you refer to military or economy? Or politics? You can't denounce communism because America has a bigger military, or such.

How did socialism originate in the countries, examples you used - the USSR, China, and Cuba? USSR came out of Tsarist Russia, a feudalist country with no sort of industrialization or whatever. China came out of the rape of the century and challenged the US just less than 10 years later. Cuba came out of a dirt poor harsh dictatorship. You cannot compare these countries with America, not because of communism, but because of prematurity. To make a comparison compare these countries from it's present (or years ago for the Soviet Union) to it's past. Then give me a statement.

Why, you ask? Because America is the greatest nation to ever grace the presence of humanity.

Your answer to the question has nothing to do with the question you asked. Here I'll quote:

Question: "Why is America so powerful"
Answer: "Because America is the greatest nation to ever grace the presence of humanity."

Unfortunately, there are many feeble and weak minded humans who live their lives in search of the impossible as opposed to the obtainable.

How is it impossible? And what must we search for that will be classified as "obtainable" for you?

Gather 'round newborn children of a Marxist based government, today we shall break the unfortunate news to you that you can never be wealthy. Sure, you can spend a plethera of years studying to be a doctor as you were assigned by your oppressive government, but here's the catch, no matter how much you want to succeed, you will always be paid the same as the bum next door, or the drunk down the street."

"Gather around children of the invisible hand led government. Today, we break the unfortunate news that the majority of you must lay the red carpet for the few of us. Sure, you can spend your life "trying hard" but sometimes that just doesn't get you anywhere, and you are locked in the cycle of exploitation. OH! Here's the catch, no matter how hard you try the millionaire's son next door will be better off without moving a finger."

Your sarcasm and conjectures have nothing beneath them. I can throw the same thing back at you and nothing could be done.

Disregarded.

In closing, I can only wish that Che Guevara had been born an American.

Okay? I can only wish that Adam Smith was born into a dirt poor family.

If fate had only dealt those cards, Ernestito would never have fallen for Marxist slander and jibberish.

If fate had only dealt those cards, Adam would never have fallen to the poison apple. He would have "fallen for Marxist slander and jibberish".

So ban me, or whatever, silence the speaker of truth.

Truth? You have spoke nothing but conjectures and thrown sarcasm.

Long Live The United States of America. "Death before dishonor."

Okay. "Death before dishonor", I believe, is the quote the Japanese used during the times of the Samurai and also Empire of Japan.

[Uhuru na Umoja]

Quote: from che cuevas on 1:04 pm on Mar. 11, 2003
why communism will never work. First of all one way you can tell that it wont work is because people are always trying to get away from the countries that are communist and usually come to America. People like being free communist try to keep everybody sheltered alot of the times people leave communist nations is because of religion people should be free to do in hwat they do not ordered by there government. Communist are falling and they will not prosper.


Your explaining specific failures of present and past Communist regimes. How does this show that Communism can never work? It merely shows that it doesn't always. So what? Capitalism has done a shit job in most of Africa.

[Saint-Just]

I don't think 'knowledge is likely to reply to these posts unfortunately. He'll probably just leave us with his one paragraph of wisdom.

[redstar2000]

Statement of the Bum & Wino Section of the International Communist Conspiracy

We drunkenly denounce this "knowledge" character for his attack on our right to fuck off and get paid for it. After the revolution, everything he owns shall be taken away from him, traded for booze, and consumed by us!

"Down with these capitalist remnants!"

:cool:

[knowledge]

After looking over everyones profiles, and realizing that very little, if any of you, are from communist countries, I realized that many of you cannot relate to living a Marxist lifestyle. Why do you defend something you are not a part of?
As for the subject we are on, this doctrine of communism is surrounded by economic and political madness. It prevents all truly intelligent people from entering it's service, while those who are intellectually less active and poorly educated in economics hasten to it with flying colors. Karl Marx was one among millions who recognized in the morass of a slowly decomposing world the most essential poisons, extracted them, and prepared them into a concentrated solution for the swifter annihilation of the independant existence of free nations on this Earth. And this is what you people defend and glorify while sitting at home in your bedrooms arguing it's matter over the internet?

[Anonymous]

i fucking love such stupid posts from anti-communist kiddies that know NOTHING about either socialism, marxism or even communism in general.. that learned all they know watching cable tv and inhaliung all that anti-communist propaganda and then think that know a lot morethan us... yes because CCCP failed and because of taht we are stupid top follow such stupid ideals...
plus the red kahers killed inocent people and were reds and wer all evil... Coomunistic ppl SUCKX!!!!!

please get real....
the international movement shall always exist... we ARE NOT STUPID:..... maby YOU are... becuase YOU THINK communist is about CCCP and cuba sucks because people escape cuba to go to miame and jopinthose pathetic anti-socialist movements with the rest of the stupid ignorant twigs....

yet you most of the time forget that those taht escape Cuba are only graduated due to Cuba´s planed economy...that without the current system in Cuba they were probably in some cofee feild working theyr asses out for some american landlord... they quicly forget the system that gavethem the oportunity to be someone..and at the first change they fleed to the empire...
Is that inteligent? betrey theyr people and the popular strugglwe against the capitalist forces? those "worms" think of themselfs as great cubans when they betreyed theyr people and theyr cause.... and then have the nerves to call Cuba motherland... when the great majority of the cuban people interily suport Fidel and theyr current socialist system....

YOU my friend are a pathetic litle anti-communist... and youir arguments are worthless... we are tired of listening to such ignorance and pathetic threads.....

[ComradeJunichi]

Have you bothered reading my reply? Instead of reading my profile?


Quote: from knowledge on 12:30 am on Mar. 12, 2003
After looking over everyones profiles, and realizing that very little, if any of you, are from communist countries, I realized that many of you cannot relate to living a Marxist lifestyle. Why do you defend something you are not a part of?
As for the subject we are on, this doctrine of communism is surrounded by economic and political madness. It prevents all truly intelligent people from entering it's service, while those who are intellectually less active and poorly educated in economics hasten to it with flying colors. Karl Marx was one among millions who recognized in the morass of a slowly decomposing world the most essential poisons, extracted them, and prepared them into a concentrated solution for the swifter annihilation of the independant existence of free nations on this Earth. And this is what you people defend and glorify while sitting at home in your bedrooms arguing it's matter over the internet?

After looking over everyones profiles, and realizing that very little, if any of you, are from communist countries

Oh no! We're not from communist countries, now I can't be communist

I realized that many of you cannot relate to living a Marxist lifestyle.

So? We don't live in a socialist country, so what?

Why do you defend something you are not a part of?

Hahaha.

As for the subject we are on, this doctrine of communism is surrounded by economic and political madness.

Right.

It prevents all truly intelligent people from entering it's service, while those who are intellectually less active and poorly educated in economics hasten to it with flying colors.

Uh-huh.

Karl Marx was one among millions who recognized in the morass of a slowly decomposing world the most essential poisons, extracted them, and prepared them into a concentrated solution for the swifter annihilation of the independant existence of free nations on this Earth.

Yup.

And this is what you people defend and glorify while sitting at home in your bedrooms arguing it's matter over the internet?

Yessa.


Knowing that you probably wouldn't read or respond to the post, and that your posts were nothing but strong biased opinion, I found it useless. Respond to my replies.

[knowledge]

1. Learn to spell correctly, it is quite difficult understanding the slang and mispelling you use.

2. You ask me to reply to your posts, yet, to all the questions I posed to you, I recieved no reply.

3. My words are not a biased opinion, nor a summary of my thoughts on communism after reading only the Manifesto.

4. All Cubans who flee to America are stupid huh? Yeah, Felix Rodriguez is an idiot. If I recall correctly, Felix was clever enough to outsmart Che. As unfortunate as that outcome was, by all means, calling a former Cuban citizen an embesal because he fled to the US is ludicrous. Sadly enough, so are your arguments and claims.

Please explain to me why you think Communism, if used throughout the world, would succeed and bring a utopia to all society?

[ComradeJunichi]

Quote: from knowledge on 2:20 am on Mar. 12, 2003
1. Learn to spell correctly, it is quite difficult understanding the slang and mispelling you use.

2. You ask me to reply to your posts, yet, to all the questions I posed to you, I recieved no reply.

3. My words are not a biased opinion, nor a summary of my thoughts on communism after reading only the Manifesto.

4. All Cubans who flee to America are stupid huh? Yeah, Felix Rodriguez is an idiot. If I recall correctly, Felix was clever enough to outsmart Che. As unfortunate as that outcome was, by all means, calling a former Cuban citizen an embesal because he fled to the US is ludicrous. Sadly enough, so are your arguments and claims.

Please explain to me why you think Communism, if used throughout the world, would succeed and bring a utopia to all society?

I will reply to those that apply to me

2. You ask me to reply to your posts, yet, to all the questions I posed to you, I recieved no reply.



Quote: from ComradeJunichi on 2:31 pm on Mar. 11, 2003

Quote: from knowledge on 3:24 am on Mar. 11, 2003
Websites like this are designed by oppressed citizens of Communsitic governments. When will you people realize, and come to grips with the fact that Communism never has and never will succeed? Why does thousands of Cubans attempt to escape Cuba and flee to the United States every year? Why has Communism fallen in the country formerly known as the USSR? Why is America so powerful, and at the same time, rich in culture, as compared to dictatorships such as Cuba, the former USSR, or China?
Why, you ask? Because America is the greatest nation to ever grace the presence of humanity. Unfortunately, there are many feeble and weak minded humans who live their lives in search of the impossible as opposed to the obtainable. "Gather 'round newborn children of a Marxist based government, today we shall break the unfortunate news to you that you can never be wealthy. Sure, you can spend a plethera of years studying to be a doctor as you were assigned by your oppressive government, but here's the catch, no matter how much you want to succeed, you will always be paid the same as the bum next door, or the drunk down the street."

In closing, I can only wish that Che Guevara had been born an American. If fate had only dealt those cards, Ernestito would never have fallen for Marxist slander and jibberish. So ban me, or whatever, silence the speaker of truth. Long Live The United States of America. "Death before dishonor."


Websites like this are designed by oppressed citizens of Communsitic governments.

Malte?

When will you people realize, and come to grips with the fact that Communism never has and never will succeed?

It is a fact? Can you prove this?

Why does thousands of Cubans attempt to escape Cuba and flee to the United States every year?

Why do thousands of Mexicans jump borders to America every year? You cannot put the whole blame on "communism".

Why has Communism fallen in the country formerly known as the USSR?

The causes of the fall of the Soviet Union are much more than simply "communism".

Why is America so powerful, and at the same time, rich in culture, as compared to dictatorships such as Cuba, the former USSR, or China?

When you ask about America being "powerful" do you refer to military or economy? Or politics? You can't denounce communism because America has a bigger military, or such.

How did socialism originate in the countries, examples you used - the USSR, China, and Cuba? USSR came out of Tsarist Russia, a feudalist country with no sort of industrialization or whatever. China came out of the rape of the century and challenged the US just less than 10 years later. Cuba came out of a dirt poor harsh dictatorship. You cannot compare these countries with America, not because of communism, but because of prematurity. To make a comparison compare these countries from it's present (or years ago for the Soviet Union) to it's past. Then give me a statement.

Why, you ask? Because America is the greatest nation to ever grace the presence of humanity.

Your answer to the question has nothing to do with the question you asked. Here I'll quote:

Question: "Why is America so powerful"
Answer: "Because America is the greatest nation to ever grace the presence of humanity."

Unfortunately, there are many feeble and weak minded humans who live their lives in search of the impossible as opposed to the obtainable.

How is it impossible? And what must we search for that will be classified as "obtainable" for you?

Gather 'round newborn children of a Marxist based government, today we shall break the unfortunate news to you that you can never be wealthy. Sure, you can spend a plethera of years studying to be a doctor as you were assigned by your oppressive government, but here's the catch, no matter how much you want to succeed, you will always be paid the same as the bum next door, or the drunk down the street."

"Gather around children of the invisible hand led government. Today, we break the unfortunate news that the majority of you must lay the red carpet for the few of us. Sure, you can spend your life "trying hard" but sometimes that just doesn't get you anywhere, and you are locked in the cycle of exploitation. OH! Here's the catch, no matter how hard you try the millionaire's son next door will be better off without moving a finger."

Your sarcasm and conjectures have nothing beneath them. I can throw the same thing back at you and nothing could be done.

Disregarded.

In closing, I can only wish that Che Guevara had been born an American.

Okay? I can only wish that Adam Smith was born into a dirt poor family.

If fate had only dealt those cards, Ernestito would never have fallen for Marxist slander and jibberish.

If fate had only dealt those cards, Adam would never have fallen to the poison apple. He would have "fallen for Marxist slander and jibberish".

So ban me, or whatever, silence the speaker of truth.

Truth? You have spoke nothing but conjectures and thrown sarcasm.

Long Live The United States of America. "Death before dishonor."

Okay. "Death before dishonor", I believe, is the quote the Japanese used during the times of the Samurai and also Empire of Japan.


That would be the post I was referring to. You totally ignored it. Thanks.

3. My words are not a biased opinion, nor a summary of my thoughts on communism after reading only the Manifesto.

Will you reread that to yourself? It's quite difficult to understand the grammar mistakes you use.

Please explain to me why you think Communism, if used throughout the world, would succeed and bring a utopia to all society?

Communism is utopia. What I search for is socialism.

[knowledge]

No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.

[Capitalist Imperial]

Don't bother, knowledge, they'll never get it.

[canikickit]

No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.

Communism and democracy are not mutually exclusive.

[ComradeJunichi]

Yeah, thanks for replying to my post.

What'd you bring up democracy for? That had nothing to do with my post.

[knowledge]

Quote: from ComradeJunichi on 4:09 am on Mar. 12, 2003
Yeah, thanks for replying to my post.

What'd you bring up democracy for? That had nothing to do with my post.

Reread it and take the time to think about how it relates to your previous post.

[ComradeJunichi]

Quote: from knowledge on 4:55 am on Mar. 12, 2003

Quote: from ComradeJunichi on 4:09 am on Mar. 12, 2003
Yeah, thanks for replying to my post.

What'd you bring up democracy for? That had nothing to do with my post.

Reread it and take the time to think about how it relates to your previous post.

Long live socialism.

[knowledge]

Quote: from ComradeJunichi on 11:51 am on Mar. 12, 2003

Quote: from knowledge on 4:55 am on Mar. 12, 2003

Quote: from ComradeJunichi on 4:09 am on Mar. 12, 2003
Yeah, thanks for replying to my post.


What'd you bring up democracy for? That had nothing to do with my post.

Reread it and take the time to think about how it relates to your previous post.

Long live socialism.

Pipe dreams can make the nights seem hopeless.

[Show me the Money]

Quote: from knowledge on 1:30 am on Mar. 12, 2003
After looking over everyones profiles, and realizing that very little, if any of you, are from communist countries, I realized that many of you cannot relate to living a Marxist lifestyle. Why do you defend something you are not a part of?
As for the subject we are on, this doctrine of communism is surrounded by economic and political madness. It prevents all truly intelligent people from entering it's service, while those who are intellectually less active and poorly educated in economics hasten to it with flying colors. Karl Marx was one among millions who recognized in the morass of a slowly decomposing world the most essential poisons, extracted them, and prepared them into a concentrated solution for the swifter annihilation of the independant existence of free nations on this Earth. And this is what you people defend and glorify while sitting at home in your bedrooms arguing it's matter over the internet?

fuck economic education!
fuck You, an other right-wing journalist-to-be..
don't be proud of your diplomas, if you haven't learn anything... you pathetic little ***.
it's pathetic that when you are so intellectually active you keep talking shit.

Sho Mo

[ComradeJunichi]

Quote: from knowledge on 6:20 am on Mar. 13, 2003

Quote: from ComradeJunichi on 11:51 am on Mar. 12, 2003

Quote: from knowledge on 4:55 am on Mar. 12, 2003

Quote: from ComradeJunichi on 4:09 am on Mar. 12, 2003
Yeah, thanks for replying to my post.


What'd you bring up democracy for? That had nothing to do with my post.

Reread it and take the time to think about how it relates to your previous post.

Long live socialism.

Pipe dreams can make the nights seem hopeless.



HAhahaahahaha! Dude, you reply to my one line post that has nothign in it, but you don't reply to my post that I gave you. Here I'll just repost it for fun.


Quote: from ComradeJunichi on 2:31 pm on Mar. 11, 2003

Quote: from knowledge on 3:24 am on Mar. 11, 2003
Websites like this are designed by oppressed citizens of Communsitic governments. When will you people realize, and come to grips with the fact that Communism never has and never will succeed? Why does thousands of Cubans attempt to escape Cuba and flee to the United States every year? Why has Communism fallen in the country formerly known as the USSR? Why is America so powerful, and at the same time, rich in culture, as compared to dictatorships such as Cuba, the former USSR, or China?
Why, you ask? Because America is the greatest nation to ever grace the presence of humanity. Unfortunately, there are many feeble and weak minded humans who live their lives in search of the impossible as opposed to the obtainable. "Gather 'round newborn children of a Marxist based government, today we shall break the unfortunate news to you that you can never be wealthy. Sure, you can spend a plethera of years studying to be a doctor as you were assigned by your oppressive government, but here's the catch, no matter how much you want to succeed, you will always be paid the same as the bum next door, or the drunk down the street."

In closing, I can only wish that Che Guevara had been born an American. If fate had only dealt those cards, Ernestito would never have fallen for Marxist slander and jibberish. So ban me, or whatever, silence the speaker of truth. Long Live The United States of America. "Death before dishonor."


Websites like this are designed by oppressed citizens of Communsitic governments.

Malte?

When will you people realize, and come to grips with the fact that Communism never has and never will succeed?

It is a fact? Can you prove this?

Why does thousands of Cubans attempt to escape Cuba and flee to the United States every year?

Why do thousands of Mexicans jump borders to America every year? You cannot put the whole blame on "communism".

Why has Communism fallen in the country formerly known as the USSR?

The causes of the fall of the Soviet Union are much more than simply "communism".

Why is America so powerful, and at the same time, rich in culture, as compared to dictatorships such as Cuba, the former USSR, or China?

When you ask about America being "powerful" do you refer to military or economy? Or politics? You can't denounce communism because America has a bigger military, or such.

How did socialism originate in the countries, examples you used - the USSR, China, and Cuba? USSR came out of Tsarist Russia, a feudalist country with no sort of industrialization or whatever. China came out of the rape of the century and challenged the US just less than 10 years later. Cuba came out of a dirt poor harsh dictatorship. You cannot compare these countries with America, not because of communism, but because of prematurity. To make a comparison compare these countries from it's present (or years ago for the Soviet Union) to it's past. Then give me a statement.

Why, you ask? Because America is the greatest nation to ever grace the presence of humanity.

Your answer to the question has nothing to do with the question you asked. Here I'll quote:

Question: "Why is America so powerful"
Answer: "Because America is the greatest nation to ever grace the presence of humanity."

Unfortunately, there are many feeble and weak minded humans who live their lives in search of the impossible as opposed to the obtainable.

How is it impossible? And what must we search for that will be classified as "obtainable" for you?

Gather 'round newborn children of a Marxist based government, today we shall break the unfortunate news to you that you can never be wealthy. Sure, you can spend a plethera of years studying to be a doctor as you were assigned by your oppressive government, but here's the catch, no matter how much you want to succeed, you will always be paid the same as the bum next door, or the drunk down the street."

"Gather around children of the invisible hand led government. Today, we break the unfortunate news that the majority of you must lay the red carpet for the few of us. Sure, you can spend your life "trying hard" but sometimes that just doesn't get you anywhere, and you are locked in the cycle of exploitation. OH! Here's the catch, no matter how hard you try the millionaire's son next door will be better off without moving a finger."

Your sarcasm and conjectures have nothing beneath them. I can throw the same thing back at you and nothing could be done.

Disregarded.

In closing, I can only wish that Che Guevara had been born an American.

Okay? I can only wish that Adam Smith was born into a dirt poor family.

If fate had only dealt those cards, Ernestito would never have fallen for Marxist slander and jibberish.

If fate had only dealt those cards, Adam would never have fallen to the poison apple. He would have "fallen for Marxist slander and jibberish".

So ban me, or whatever, silence the speaker of truth.

Truth? You have spoke nothing but conjectures and thrown sarcasm.

Long Live The United States of America. "Death before dishonor."

Okay. "Death before dishonor", I believe, is the quote the Japanese used during the times of the Samurai and also Empire of Japan.

[Saint-Just]

Quote: from knowledge on 2:40 am on Mar. 12, 2003
No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.


We do not say socialism is perfect, but rather that it is essential for the progression of humanity. We see socialism as democratic, more democratic than capitalist society.

'Pipe dreams can make the nights seem hopeless.'

Socialism is not a pipe dream when it has already been achieved in many countries, indeed it has often fallen. But in many cases this is due to U.S. intervention and the re-emergence of bourgeois though, socialism continually fights bourgeois thought. In the DPRK and Cuba, socialism still remains.

[ComradeJunichi]

Pipe dreams can make the nights seem hopeless.

The sun only rises when the moons light has stroken the fox of the moutain.

[Geddan]

There is something wrong with today's world when 50 % of its population is poor by UN standards, and when the small fraction of developed countries has got a majority of all wealth in the world. This is injustice created by the global capitalism, and the injustice increase every day when people get poorer and poorer and people here in developed countries, lucky enough to own the shares (thus labour) in these countries, can live wealthy lives just because they own.

The one difference between us and you is that you accept it. We want to fix that and the need to sell your labour by basing society on common ownership and justice and cooperation, instead of competition, private ownership and injustice due to the predatorial instincts which comes with capitalism.

I would love to have a long debate but since I lack the skills to express myself like Chairman Mao and other comrades, due to me not speaking English as a native language, I am a little frightened. But I'll try.

[IPkurd]

Knowledge u r a prick, ur probabley a rich shiney dick with parent from tha ICA. DEATH 2 america and death to "democracy" if it relay exists.

I rely hope u people will see the sins of america 1 day but i won't hold my breth, and ur question about why america is so rich, well just read about the boom years and how they got rich because the rest of the world was at war. I just wish that britain had never have let go of america from there empier that would of stop so many fools being born

[Pete]

I have no comment for 'knowledge', joon usually speaks for me when he speaks out of common views.

Geddan, you ahve extremely good english. I did not realize until you said it that it is not your native tounge.

[Saint-Just]

I cannot fathom that you, Knowledge, could retort with a more inane and meaningless maxim than Comrade Junichi's 'The sun only rises when the moons light has stroken the fox of the moutain.'
I would very much enjoy being proved wrong however.

I think you make a valid point Geddan, hopefully Knowledge will reply us. Your English is competent and I would suggest that you could certainly take part in a good debate.

Knowledge, I hope you shall reply to my previous post that cited (I should hope) the fallacies of your arguments on democracy and socialism is only a pipe dream.

[Pete]

Oh yes. The title of this thread, "the essense of communism'... the essense is what you have after you take away all sensorary data. Basically our rheotric which is sound, as yours is not, misusing 'essense' as you did.

[knowledge]

I will post a reply later tonight, I am currently still at work.

[Geddan]

This debate is not valid.

"Communism can never work", some of the right-wingers have said here. My reply to them, and to you, Knowledge, is "In what way does Capitalism work?" And further, "In what way does economic democracy scare you?" Why are you so afraid of people becoming equals? What is so scary with world-wide poverty and starvation reaching an end?

The essence of communism is to end the exploitation of people by other people, the exploitation of class by another class, the prejudice against people by other people and to end mankind's strife by basing society on cooperation and not on dog-eat-dog instincts.