Ultra-nationalism, nationalism and patriotism?

[spartan]

What are the differences between ultra-nationalism, nationalism and patriotism?

Surely they are all the same thing but with varying degrees of devotion and activity by it's followers, with ultra-nationalism being the highest?

[F9]

i would say of course ultra-nationalists are the "highest" because ultra-nationalists probably thing of their nation as the "best",they hate other nations,races,people colors etc racist bullshits,they are the ultimate view of nationalism they dont only believe such things but they might put them in action by attacking those things i said above.
nationalists are the same thing as above i thing but they hold their ideas and dont put them in action,those are the kind that they say that they hate "that people,race etc" but they dont attack them or hurt them,due to scare or other things.
finally patriotism in my oppinion is different from the above two,its not nationalism and mostly not racist.in the patriotists label i see those that "love" their country love their "people" etc etc,but they do not hate other people races etc.
Anw i am against all three of situations,and those things spread the division through people and advocate racism.especially nationalism is a SICK "idea"

Fuserg9:star:

[shorelinetrance]

all the same, with varying levels of stupidity.

[ComradeOm]

In the first place these are ill-defined political labels that vary from country to country and era to era. Its much safer to talk about specific nationalist movements than devise an extremely broad definition. For example, there is very little in common between the contemporary French revanchists and Irish Fenians. That said, this is exactly what I'm about to do

Patriotism I'd discount straight away because its not a political movement like nationalism or ultra-nationalism. Certain politicians or parties (many actually) might profess to be "patriotic" but patriotism itself never defines a non-nationalist party. Nationalism itself is a relatively recent political development that accompanied the development of nationstates roughly two centuries ago. At its most fundamental level, nationalism defines a common identity/values (which may nor may not be expressed in ethnic/cultural terms) that is (or should be) shared by all citizens of the nationstate

Ultra-nationalism is somewhat more tricky. Its not merely a case of taking the above to the extreme (ie enforcing a common identity), although this is of course part of the parcel, but the shifting of nationalism to the very centre of the political agenda. For ultra-nationalists everything is viewed through the prism of nationalism and increasing the status/power/integrity of the nation

To take a specific example, in the Weimar Republic the liberals (such as Stresemann) were traditionally supporters of democratic practices and free trade but they nonetheless supported the annexation of lands, particularly in Russia, to provide fresh markets and resources for the nation. They were nationalist. In contrast the ultra-nationalist Hitler had no real political beliefs beyond those needed to bolster the Fatherland. If dictatorship and government control of the economy was needed to achieve national superiority then so be it. If Germany could only be bettered through a campaign of genocide then that was fine. Everything revolved around the nationstate and destroying those who threatened it


all the same, with varying levels of stupidity.Now that is a profoundly unhelpful answer