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antieverything
9th March 2003, 03:40
I went to an anti-war rally today and I heard this article referred to...when I read it for myself I was convinced that it had to be a clever hoax...unfortunately, it isn't. Strangely enough, we don't see this plastered on the front page of ever newspaper in the country. (I took the liberty of bolding the parts I found to be particularly shocking...)

http://www.sundayherald.com/27735

Bush planned Iraq 'regime change' before becoming President

By Neil Mackay


A SECRET blueprint for US global domination reveals that President Bush and his cabinet were planning a premeditated attack on Iraq to secure 'regime change' even before he took power in January 2001.
The blueprint, uncovered by the Sunday Herald, for the creation of a 'global Pax Americana' was drawn up for Dick Cheney (now vice- president), Donald Rumsfeld (defence secretary), Paul Wolfowitz (Rumsfeld's deputy), George W Bush's younger brother Jeb and Lewis Libby (Cheney's chief of staff). The document, entitled Rebuilding America's Defenses: Strategies, Forces And Resources For A New Century, was written in September 2000 by the neo-conservative think-tank Project for the New American Century (PNAC).

The plan shows Bush's cabinet intended to take military control of the Gulf region whether or not Saddam Hussein was in power. It says: 'The United States has for decades sought to play a more permanent role in Gulf regional security. While the unresolved conflict with Iraq provides the immediate justification, the need for a substantial American force presence in the Gulf transcends the issue of the regime of Saddam Hussein.'

The PNAC document supports a 'blueprint for maintaining global US pre-eminence, precluding the rise of a great power rival, and shaping the international security order in line with American principles and interests'.

This 'American grand strategy' must be advanced for 'as far into the future as possible', the report says. It also calls for the US to 'fight and decisively win multiple, simultaneous major theatre wars' as a 'core mission'.

The report describes American armed forces abroad as 'the cavalry on the new American frontier'. The PNAC blueprint supports an earlier document written by Wolfowitz and Libby that said the US must 'discourage advanced industrial nations from challenging our leadership or even aspiring to a larger regional or global role'.

The PNAC report also:

l refers to key allies such as the UK as 'the most effective and efficient means of exercising American global leadership'

l describes peace-keeping missions as 'demanding American political leadership rather than that of the United Nations';

l reveals worries in the administration that Europe could rival the USA;

l says 'even should Saddam pass from the scene' bases in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait will remain permanently -- despite domestic opposition in the Gulf regimes to the stationing of US troops -- as 'Iran may well prove as large a threat to US interests as Iraq has';

l spotlights China for 'regime change' saying 'it is time to increase the presence of American forces in southeast Asia'. This, it says, may lead to 'American and allied power providing the spur to the process of democratisation in China';

l calls for the creation of 'US Space Forces', to dominate space, and the total control of cyberspace to prevent 'enemies' using the internet against the US;

l hints that, despite threatening war against Iraq for developing weapons of mass destruction, the US may consider developing biological weapons -- which the nation has banned -- in decades to come. It says: 'New methods of attack -- electronic, 'non-lethal', biological -- will be more widely available ... combat likely will take place in new dimensions, in space, cyberspace, and perhaps the world of microbes ... advanced forms of biological warfare that can 'target' specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool';

l and pinpoints North Korea, Libya, Syria and Iran as dangerous regimes and says their existence justifies the creation of a 'world-wide command-and-control system'.

Tam Dalyell, the Labour MP, father of the House of Commons and one of the leading rebel voices against war with Iraq, said: 'This is garbage from right-wing think-tanks stuffed with chicken-hawks -- men who have never seen the horror of war but are in love with the idea of war. Men like Cheney, who were draft-dodgers in the Vietnam war.

'This is a blueprint for US world domination -- a new world order of their making. These are the thought processes of fantasist Americans who want to control the world. I am appalled that a British Labour Prime Minister should have got into bed with a crew which has this moral standing.'
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Well, this is a perfect example of why the administration is trying its hardest to undermind and sabotage the UN...not because it threatens our soveriegnty or is corrupt...but because it is an obstacle to a global American empire!

peaccenicked
9th March 2003, 03:50
Its an important article. The more people that get to know the better.

antieverything
9th March 2003, 03:53
This isn't breaking news or anything...it has probably been all over every board for a week already and I just missed it. If not, what the hell is that about!?

Hate Your State
9th March 2003, 03:59
Aye, good post. Although there is no real proof that this document exists, none of it is unbelievable. I tend to agree with most of it, because it's all stuff that they say indirectly on the media.

"advanced forms of biological warfare that can 'target' specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool"

That terrifies me.

You are correct about the US wanting to dissolve the United Nations. They've commandeered votes on the Security Council for decades, but now that they are opposed by it, they will fight it. Fortunately, the US can't win a war against the United Nations, or North Korea for that matter. They're nearing the end of their position as "Dominant Superpower".

Anonymous
9th March 2003, 04:00
http://www.newamericancentury.org/statemen...fprinciples.htm (http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm)

I don't know, some of it sounds foolish to me.

EDIT:

Actually, scratch that. It all sounds good to me.

• we need to increase defense spending significantly if we are to carry out our global
responsibilities today and modernize our armed forces for the future;


• we need to strengthen our ties to democratic allies and to challenge regimes hostile to our interests and values;


• we need to promote the cause of political and economic freedom abroad;


• we need to accept responsibility for America's unique role in preserving and extending an international order friendly to our security, our prosperity, and our principles.

I see nothing wrong with this.

(Edited by Dark Capitalist at 9:12 am on Mar. 9, 2003)

antieverything
9th March 2003, 04:13
The fact that the Republican establishment is openly in favor of a new American empire should make the Bush supporters think again about the reasons for war.

antieverything
9th March 2003, 04:29
It all sounds good to me.
That's because you're an imperialist asshole!


Although there is no real proof that this document exists...Actually you can read the entire report on the group's website! The site runs fucking SLOW though (probably because so many people are trying to get a look at this piece of Nazi-esque craziness) but you can see it here too: http://cryptome.org/rad.htm#II

Anonymous
9th March 2003, 04:31
"That's because you're an imperialist asshole!"

Actually, libertarian imperialist.

I've finally managed to give a name to my ideology.

(Edited by Dark Capitalist at 9:32 am on Mar. 9, 2003)

antieverything
9th March 2003, 04:34
And I guess that we are god's chosen people...Manifest Destiny across the entire globe, right?

Anonymous
9th March 2003, 04:35
I'm an atheist.

(Edited by Dark Capitalist at 9:37 am on Mar. 9, 2003)

antieverything
9th March 2003, 04:38
so...America is just superior by virtue and has the right to assert its will through force because it CAN?

Anonymous
9th March 2003, 04:41
Yes.

antieverything
9th March 2003, 05:30
Ah, ok. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

antieverything
9th March 2003, 23:35
Well, after reading the entire report, I can verify that this is the real deal people...I can't believe that no cappies are angry about the betrayal of the American electorate by the Bush administration. The minority that voted for him did so because they believed that he was a moderate, compassionate conservative. What they got was one of the most radically right-wing group of wackos that this country has ever seen in the executive branch!

Hampton
9th March 2003, 23:47
http://cryptome.org/rad.htm#INTRODUCTION

antieverything
9th March 2003, 23:58
Thanks Hamton, I forgot to do that.

timbaly
11th March 2003, 04:58
How do you know that this is legitiment? I could have just typed this up.

ihatepunkrockandbmx
11th May 2003, 02:48
Although there is no real proof that this document exists...Actually you can read the entire report on the group's website! The site runs fucking SLOW though (probably because so many people are trying to get a look at this piece of Nazi-esque craziness) but you can see it here too: http://cryptome.org/rad.htm#II
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where exactly? i can't seem to find it on there.

ihatepunkrockandbmx
11th May 2003, 03:56
never mind, i found it.

antieverything
11th May 2003, 04:47
Well, as I pointed out in my IL article (if that thing is ever going to come out), the article isn't really that good...it's a piece of sensationalism. But, some of the stuff is legit. I suggest doing a websearch on the issue, you can find some more credible stories on it. Or better yet, read the thing and look at the statement of principles page on www.newamericancentury.org . Seeing the names of who this group is supported by is pretty disturbing.

Tkinter1
11th May 2003, 05:36
nevermind


(Edited by Tkinter1 at 6:50 am on May 11, 2003)