Igniting a Revolution

[abbielives!]

Igniting a Revolution

Igniting a revolution - An introduction to Earth Liberation Front (ELF)

A group of individuals spread internationally fighting against the destruction and exploitation of the environment and natural resources through direct action and monkeywrenching
(part I)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLkT2IU0HtE

(part II)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16k1P1aagRM&feature=related

www.earthliberationfront.com

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

S&E isn't a platform for misanthropic bioconservative ideologues.

Moved to the correct place.

[PigmerikanMao]

Don't send this shit to us, NoXion! We don't want it! :laugh: Haha, I kid, I kid.

~PMao ;)

Edit: The points in the video were actually very good, although the speaker put himself out there for police to identify. Granted I'm not going to create an ELF cell with other environmentalists, I can at least appreciate those that do. Great video, thanks for sharing.

[freakazoid]

S&E isn't a platform for misanthropic bioconservative ideologues.

Moved to the correct place.


What part of the video is an OI? What part did you disagree with?

[Killfacer]

i dont know anything about ELF, but everyone else seems to hate them. SO GRRR.

[Jazzratt]

What part of the video is an OI? What part did you disagree with?

Prsumably this bit:


An introduction to Earth Liberation Front (ELF)

[PigmerikanMao]

i dont know anything about ELF, but everyone else seems to hate them. SO GRRR.
Because that's a great way to approach something new and different. :rolleyes:

[Bud Struggle]

Because that's a great way to approach something new and different. :rolleyes:

We're Old School Commies around here.
:cursing::trotski::engles::hammersickle:

[PigmerikanMao]

Old School, Babeh Killin, Commies :laugh:

[Killfacer]

so do these guys just hate technology and want us to become luddite weirdo troglodites?

[abbielives!]

S&E isn't a platform for misanthropic bioconservative ideologues.

Moved to the correct place.

the tenants of the earth liberation front are:
1. cause economic damage to earth destroyers
2. raise public awareness about ecological issues
3. no harm to animal life

you may as well ban me and every other anarchist on this board, since we support them.
oh well, you are just another commie making himself irrelevant.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

the tenants of the earth liberation front are:
1. cause economic damage to earth destroyers

Obviously they haven't heard of a little thing called insurance.


2. raise public awareness about ecological issuesYou can do that without disrupting scientific research, advocating wackaloon "animal liberation", and generally being a bunch of asshats.


3. no harm to animal lifeEvery human being "harms animal life" simply by virtue of existing - we compete (successfully) with other species for living space and resources.


you may as well ban me and every other anarchist on this board, since we support them.I wouldn't claim to speak for all anarchists if I were you.


oh well, you are just another commie making himself irrelevant.And you're just another "animal rights" nut. It's easier to call people names and post propaganda videos than actually make a case for one's position, isn't it?

[Jazzratt]

you may as well ban me and every other anarchist on this board, since we support them.

Who's this "we", cockshaft?

[freakazoid]

Obviously they haven't heard of a little thing called insurance.

Still have to go without the place for a long time.


You can do that without disrupting scientific research, advocating wackaloon "animal liberation", and generally being a bunch of asshats.

While I think they go to far, certain things I am not against, for example hunting or research that does not cause unnecessary or cruel harm or suffering to the animal. Of course what one person does doesn't represent exactly the whole group.


Every human being "harms animal life" simply by virtue of existing - we compete (successfully) with other species for living space and resources.

I think you are purposefully misconstruing what he said.


And you're just another "animal rights" nut. It's easier to call people names and post propaganda videos than actually make a case for one's position, isn't it?

Isn't that what you do all the time, minus the videos? Even then this video makes its case for there position.


cockshaft?

What is wrong with the shaft of a cock?

[Dros]

ELF!!!!

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Seriously these people would disgust me if they weren't so hilariously irrelevant. They are not leftists. They are not materialists. They are delusional liberals who have no support anywhere and never will.

[Cult of Reason]

the tenants of the earth liberation front are:
1. cause economic damage to earth destroyers
2. raise public awareness about ecological issues
3. no harm to animal life

you may as well ban me and every other anarchist on this board, since we support them.
oh well, you are just another commie making himself irrelevant.


I am an Anarchist, and I hate the ELF. I eat meat, etc..

You fail, sir.

[Pawn Power]

ELF!!!!


Seriously these people would disgust me if they weren't so hilariously irrelevant. They are not leftists. They are not materialists. They are delusional liberals who have no support anywhere and never will.

Sure their politics suck but 'eco-terrorist' have been listed as one of the foremost domestic threats by the US gov. They are irrelevant to us but perhaps much more relevant to the State then many of the organization we are in.

[Plagueround]

you may as well ban me and every other anarchist on this board, since we support them.


http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l156/phobosblack/1191636608295.jpg

[freakazoid]

ROFL, thats horrible. :laugh:

[ships-cat]

Liberating the Earth ? Wow... on whose authority ? Has the Earth been consulted on this ? Does it have lawyers, and have they given the appropriate power of attorney to ELF ?

I mean, it could be an embarrassing court case.... just imagine it...

"The defendants call the Planet Earth as a witness...."

CRUNCH muffled protesting noises from the Judge

Well.. be that as it may; it's easy to be cynical and snide.. perhaps I should open my mind a bit and try and get with the program.

My sister is redoing her garden. We've got TONS of freshly Liberated Earth.

Umm... is there like... I dunno... a PO box or something that we could send it to ?

(caution: Garden contains Cats... Earth therefore contains... well... lumps).

Meow Purr :)

[abbielives!]

Obviously they haven't heard of a little thing called insurance.

Every human being "harms animal life" simply by virtue of existing - we compete (successfully) with other species for living space and resources.



Sad, you can't even distinguish between ALF and ELF. Insurance doesn't matter if you hit them enough times. violence draws media, it's that simple. the third tenant means that you don't kill any animals during an ELF action, not a demand that we never harm animals, but you knew that didn't you, you just lack the intellectual integrity to admit it.

I never said I agree completely with the ELF. I do think they serve an important role though.

Like I said, just a bunch of commie and pseudo-anarchists failing to adapt 19th century philosophies to changing times.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080827/ap_on_sc/sci_arctic_ice

[Bud Struggle]

Sad, you can't even distinguish between ALF and ELF.

ALF:
http://www.dealbreaker.com/images/entries/ALF.jpg
ELF:
http://www.arwen-undomiel.com/images/legolas/Legolas_golden_light.jpg

[Jazzratt]

Sad, you can't even distinguish between ALF and ELF.

One's a group of nutjobs that carry out anti-worker actions in the name of environmentalism the other is a group of nutjobs that carries out anti-worker actions in the name of animals.


Insurance doesn't matter if you hit them enough times.Yes it does, that's what it's there for. Also considering the ELF seem to do things on a biannual basis this point is moot.


violence draws media, it's that simple.Doing anti-worker actions with nothing to go on but a vague environmental platform in order to draw the media is a lot like someone shouting for everyone to listen when they have fuck all to say.


the third tenantDid you perhaps mean "tennent" as in "number of cans of tennents super* required to believe the ELF is remotely a good idea").


means that you don't kill any animals during an ELF action,

Which shows far more respect for animals that the workers and scientists harmed and killed in ELF actions.


not a demand that we never harm animals, but you knew that didn't you, you just lack the intellectual integrity to admit it. So you can harm them but not kill them? Methinks you're being a nitpicker.


I never said I agree completely with the ELF. I do think they serve an important role though.Yes, they are doing a lot of important work in the "driving people away from the left" field.


Like I said, just a bunch of commie and pseudo-anarchists failing to adapt 19th century philosophies to changing times.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080827/ap_on_sc/sci_arctic_iceNo, we're simply arguing that your new bullshit is bullshit. Not every change is for the better.

*http://www.lastorders.com/store_images/products/1377_lg.gif

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Sad, you can't even distinguish between ALF and ELF.

The fact that crazy comes in a variety of flavours is a fact I'm aware of.


Insurance doesn't matter if you hit them enough times.

Considering that I have yet to hear a company go bankrupt due to ELF/ALF's actions, indicates that they don't do so.


violence draws media, it's that simple.

So they're a bunch of attention seeking morons. It's not like the world has a shortage of those.


the third tenant means that you don't kill any animals during an ELF action, not a demand that we never harm animals, but you knew that didn't you, you just lack the intellectual integrity to admit it.

How can animals be "liberated" if one is still allowed to kill them?


I never said I agree completely with the ELF. I do think they serve an important role though.

Yeah, as an example of how not to do it.


Like I said, just a bunch of commie and pseudo-anarchists failing to adapt 19th century philosophies to changing times.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080827/ap_on_sc/sci_arctic_ice

I've never denied climate change exists, douchenozzle. And one doesn't have to have ridiculous ideas about "animal liberation" in order to recognise climate change or do anything about it.

[Schrödinger's Cat]

I personally don't have anything against limited animal rights, but this is just bizarre.

[Killfacer]

the third tenant? You sound a bit weird, like some cultists or something. Anyone ever play swat 2? because thats what you sound like.

[Sam_b]

number of cans of tennents super

I'll not hear a bad word against the mighty Super!