Right Wing / Left Wing Media - There is no such thing as Lef

[RedCeltic]

It seems to me as an American of 32 years, that the Media is actually only ever two things… it is ‘even-handed’ meaning it's ‘playing both sides’ or it is right wing. I have absolutely no idea where the Rush L. Disciples get their ideas from (when not being brain washed by Rush that is)

It seems to me that these days every major TV and radio station is in computation to find the most conservative idiot to host their show.

But… Simply being a far right wing nut case that many of the republicans find a bit too much (Rush) is simply not enough these days… no… today for example, I saw one of these right wing nuts call a fellow conservative a “Liberal-Leftist” when he said he was against Bible study in a courthouse in Alabama.

In fact, I don’t remember ever… hearing a left wing T-V show. Recently Phil D. Came back with a center left show and seems to be running scared, and avoiding controversial political issues.

So Please tell me… where do these idiotic ****-serve-itive nut-jobs get the idea that the media is anything but

[Capitalist Imperial]

apparently you've never sen cnn, nbc news, abc news, cbs news, or msnbc

redceltic, you are among the most treasonous americans i've ever had the displeasure of talking to

you make me sick

[Invader Zim]

CNN, left wing... no

[Xvall]

apparently you've never sen cnn, nbc news, abc news, cbs news, or msnbc

LMFAO CI!

Ah, Right! The left-wing media! I can see it now!

Bill Riely: "And the only reason we're going to war in Iraq is oil oil oil! We should be spending more time saving the rainforest and funding our kids educations. If we simply spent more money on humanitarian funds to gain Iraq as an ally, then rebel forces will eventually wipe out their tyrant leader. Did I mention that fetus' aren't any different from legos?"

LOL. Maybe not. The only reason you think the media is liberal is because your damned administration is so far to the right that anything left of Benito Mussolini is liberal. (Yeah. I stole that from one of that capitalists on the board; deal with it.)

redceltic, you are among the most treasonous americans i've ever had the displeasure of talking to

LOL. Are you related to Ann Coulter. You two are very similar. While she thinks that anyone that doesn't want a missle defense shield should be convicted of treason; you feel the same way about a person's opinion of the media! You think Red Celtic should be shot for saying that the media is right-wing? How democratic of you, Imperial.

(Edited by Drake Dracoli at 7:39 pm on Mar. 8, 2003)

[Show me the Money]

damn you commies!!!:angry:; The reason CNN looks right wing is due to the FACT that all the other major Networks lean so far to the left that anything to the right of Karl Marx looks right wing.

:biggrin:(psst.. i am a commie incognito)

(Edited by Show me the Money at 12:33 am on Mar. 9, 2003)

[Hate Your State]

I don't think CI is worth talking to. His name betrays the values patriotic Americans claim to live for: "liberty, freedom, justice, blah blah blah". Capitalism violates all three. Imperialism is just global terrorism and exploitation. He's not a smart person, and if he's all we have to deal with during the revolution then it's going to be a cakewalk.

[canikickit]

redceltic, you are among the most treasonous americans i've ever had the displeasure of talking to

In that case, I am highly in favour of treason.

It's hilarious the way extreme leftists see the media as right wing while the extreme rightist see it as left wing.

[Hate Your State]

In that case, it demonstrates something about the right wing mind. It's oblivious to the obvious! CNN constantly makes pro-war reports and glorifies and patriotizes this action. Quite comical.

[Hate Your State]

Also, it has a show called "MONEYLINE", what more can you capitalists want?

[canikickit]

CNN are communists.

[Hate Your State]

Haw!

[RedCeltic]

Quote: from Capitalist Imperial on 12:44 pm on Mar. 8, 2003
apparently you've never sen cnn, nbc news, abc news, cbs news, or msnbc

Every one of those networks is center-right. CNN is perhaps the most credible as they try to be more even handed as I said, but come out being on the right.

ALL of the political talk shows on CNN are right wing shows. Most of the talk shows on the radio are also right wing, in fact for anyone to truly find any slightly left wing media one would have to listen to National Public Radio.


redceltic, you are among the most treasonous americans i've ever had the displeasure of talking to

you make me sick


Because I don't watch Fox news? :confused:

You want to talk about sick.. how about taking a look at that quote in your sig by that insane war monger president Reagan.

[truthaddict11]

didnt NPR ban Mumia?
Face it the mainsteam media is all bullshit. You never hear any stories interesting or meaningful instead of hearing about the Patriot Act you get whos hot and whos not at the fucking grammys. Instead of interesting World Affairs its which SUV is better. I swear most news is a fucking Infomerical and Tabloid magazine show. Less than 10 Corporations own 80% OF ALL WESTERN MEDIA! and I doubt that any of them are "liberal"

[Dhul Fiqar]

The media espouses right-wing ideals constantly, and makes no secret of it. What the ultra-rightwing maniacs are complaining about is the occasional even-handed and factual report that shows the concerns of leftists and then discredits them by talking to rightwingers who know better.

They cannot even handle hearing about other's oppinions without attributing them to the network that tells them about them, quite sad really.

--- G.

[RedCeltic]

didnt NPR ban Mumia?

True, but I was thinking that because I heared Noam Chomsky on NPR and I did say "Slightly".... but yea you're right I suppose...

[Capitalist Imperial]

Quote: from Hate Your State on 11:54 pm on Mar. 8, 2003
I don't think CI is worth talking to. His name betrays the values patriotic Americans claim to live for: "liberty, freedom, justice, blah blah blah". Capitalism violates all three. Imperialism is just global terrorism and exploitation. He's not a smart person, and if he's all we have to deal with during the revolution then it's going to be a cakewalk.


Why don't you stop with the flaming and get down to brass tacks in a real debate with me then, Hate your State. Your obvious lack of intelligence is already apparent in two utter mistakes you've made with one short post:

1) You presume to know my intelligence without ever directly engaging me and,

2) You actually subscribe to the idea that there will be populist communist revolution

LOL, before you start assesing the aptitude of others, my friend, perhaps you should address some of your own fundamentally flawed logic.

Don't worry, though, Hate my State. You are nothing new here. I am a veteran of political debate interdiction here, and idiots like you and your tired, rehashed dialouge that is big on dogmatic, blanketed ad-hominem attacks and short on substance are par for the course among most here.

You, sir, are merely a rookie out of his/her league, and an unimpressive one at that.

[Capitalist Imperial]

Oh, Hate my State is from Canada, this explains a lot.

That ol' geo-political envy geting to you, my friend? Its ok, being a mere lap dog to an actual relevant country has its perks, right?

[antieverything]

LOL, I don't think that you have any right to accuse people of being dogmatic, CI...you are, after all, the one who will go to any length to rationalize US foriegn policy attrocities!

The simple fact is, if the media was even slightly moderate (not "leftist" but simply objective) everyone in the country would know that several of the people in the Bush administration were planning the invasion of Iraq before the 2000 election and planned an invasion and occupation whether or not Saddam was still in power...it would be widely known that this administration is quite openly in favor of a world-wide American empire and a policy of maintaining a unipolar world by thwarting any European attempts to gain world influence! This would sound like crazy talk to most Americans but the fact is that it is all very well documented. There is completely incontrovertable proof that the Bush administration's goal has been to undermine the authority of the UN from the begining. Hell, they are even openly in favor of militarizing space and excercizing complete American control of THE INTERNET!

[Capitalist Imperial]

Quote: from antieverything on 5:56 pm on Mar. 9, 2003
LOL, I don't think that you have any right to accuse people of being dogmatic, CI...you are, after all, the one who will go to any length to rationalize US foriegn policy attrocities!

The simple fact is, if the media was even slightly moderate (not "leftist" but simply objective) everyone in the country would know that several of the people in the Bush administration were planning the invasion of Iraq before the 2000 election and planned an invasion and occupation whether or not Saddam was still in power...it would be widely known that this administration is quite openly in favor of a world-wide American empire and a policy of maintaining a unipolar world by thwarting any European attempts to gain world influence! This would sound like crazy talk to most Americans but the fact is that it is all very well documented. There is completely incontrovertable proof that the Bush administration's goal has been to undermine the authority of the UN from the begining. Hell, they are even openly in favor of militarizing space and excercizing complete American control of THE INTERNET!

I don't categorically deny that the US has a vested interest in strengtheneing its sphere of influence and expanding/maintaining its interests, but I believe that this poilcy would be good for America and the world.

I have stated from the beginning that petroleum interests are in fact a factor in Iraq (but not the only one). I fully support US petroleum initatives wherever they occur.

Manifest destiny is a right of our empire.

[Cassius Clay]

CI you sound just like Hitler, with this 'Manifest destiny is a right of our Empire' crap.

Please explain the difference between what you (and Mr Bush and co) are saying and the Nazis 'Greater Germany' ideology. Oh yeah there is no difference Nazi Germany was Capitalist just like good old U$A and Nazi Germany ended up just like the U$A will.

No Empire lasts forever and the U$A will be no different.

[canikickit]

Manifest destiny is a right of our empire.

Manifest destiny is a racist doctrine.

[DeadBoss]

The beloved black-liquid of the american and other suckers will at some point cease to spring out, it is not of an endless supply u know, the use of it is damaging the US as well as the rest of the world (anyone familiar with pollution??), a bloody war happening because of it simply worsens things for everyone and accelerates the pace of extinction of life on this planet (blood will follow blood).. but the politicians won't give a damn as long as they get the money running in the accounts of their few mindless voters.. Unfortunately they don't even know the difference between a justified call to arms in order to defend one's own freedom and a war happening in order to take over the liberty and rights of another.

as for your empire my Roman-friendly 'friends' it will decay as it is doomed to do so

[Capitalist Imperial]

Quote: from Cassius Clay on 7:17 pm on Mar. 9, 2003
CI you sound just like Hitler, with this 'Manifest destiny is a right of our Empire' crap.

Please explain the difference between what you (and Mr Bush and co) are saying and the Nazis 'Greater Germany' ideology. Oh yeah there is no difference Nazi Germany was Capitalist just like good old U$A and Nazi Germany ended up just like the U$A will.

No Empire lasts forever and the U$A will be no different.



The difference is that we are not categorically executing millions and attempting to take over the world by military force on our own.

Our sphere of influence is attained diplomatically and with voluntary cooperation of allies and trade partners.

[Capitalist Imperial]

Quote: from DeadBoss on 7:27 pm on Mar. 9, 2003
The beloved black-liquid of the american and other suckers will at some point cease to spring out, it is not of an endless supply u know, the use of it is damaging the US as well as the rest of the world (anyone familiar with pollution??), a bloody war happening because of it simply worsens things for everyone and accelerates the pace of extinction of life on this planet (blood will follow blood).. but the politicians won't give a damn as long as they get the money running in the accounts of their few mindless voters.. Unfortunately they don't even know the difference between a justified call to arms in order to defend one's own freedom and a war happening in order to take over the liberty and rights of another.

as for your empire my Roman-friendly 'friends' it will decay as it is doomed to do so


We will develop other energy sources before our reserves diminish.

As foir America's demise, you can keep dreaming, as it will not happen anytime soon.

[Cassius Clay]

''The difference is that we are not categorically executing millions and attempting to take over the world by military force on our own.''

Germany had allies is well, Capitalist regimes in Hungary, Finland, Romania, Bulgaria etc aided them with 'military' forces in it's campaign for it's 'Destiny'. 'Executing millions' maybe not but the only places I see mothers and wifes carrying portraits of their 'missing' husbans and brothers are in the U$ backed Capitalist countries like Argentina, Salvador, Chile etc etc. How many millions died in Vietnam, Korea etc etc?

You talk about 'Manifest destiny' and such rubbish. Right now 10% of Americans don't have enough to eat, sought out your own problems before deciding who is in some fictional 'Axis of Evil'.

[antieverything]

Um, sorry to break it to you but hunger doesn't happen on a large scale in America. Malnutrition happens due to bad diet, not due to a lack of money to but food. Of course, this sort of gluttonous and self-destructive consumption is good for the economy, isn't that right, CI?

The really scary thing about this is that it isn't just a war for oil...it's the enactment of an ideology of American superiority and right to rule over the entire globe.

[Geddan]

"I fully support US petroleum initatives wherever they occur.

Manifest destiny is a right of our empire. "

You don't really give a shit about those who get in the way of your beloved government, do you?

[antieverything]

well, Ged...I was about to tell you to ignore CI because he's just trying to piss us off when I remembered that the people running our country think exactly like that!