Iraqi Armed Revolutionary Resistance - Marxist

[Mindtoaster]

The Iraqi Armed Revolutionary Resistance ('IARR) is a Marxist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxist) insurgent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_insurgency) group operating in Iraq (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq).

Their existence was made public in mid-May 2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_2007), when a group of insurgents distributed leaflets with pictures of Argentinian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentina) revolutionary Che Guevara (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Che_Guevara). The leaflets described the IARR as a "movement of Iraqi Communists (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communists) and Marxists experienced in armed struggle, leftist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing) Iraqi nationalists, and their supporters." They also spoke against the "puppet government, the so-called Council of Representatives, terrorist Salafis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salafism), militias, the Interior Ministry, Iraqi traitors who came on American tanks, the American and British (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom) mercenaries (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercenaries), contractors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contractors), and their servants from the South Lebanese Army (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Lebanese_Army)."

So far, the Revolutionary Resistance have claimed responsibility for one attack, against American (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) troops in the area between Najaf (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Najaf) and Karbala (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karbala). Sources have said the attack targeted a convoy of “special forces of the occupation,” referring to U.S. military contractors, at the Khan Al-Nus area on the main road between the Shi’ite holy cities of Najaf and Karbala. The attack destroyed one vehicle and damaged another, killing the occupants of the first vehicle, according to the sources. The sources added that the Iraqi Armed Revolutionary Resistance would continue its military operations, according to a “meticulous and calculate plan, taking into account the delicate surrounding security situation and the intense intelligence presence of well-known elements and lackeys of the occupation, both Islamic and secular.”



What do you all think of this group? I had absolutely heard nothing about them until today. I was reading the thread proposing that we fund the insurgency (bad idea) and I went to Wikipedia to look see if I could find a list of insurgent factions, see if any had leftist leanings.

Should we give this group our support? Does anyone know anything else about them? They are apparently not associated with the communist party of Iraq.

[Abluegreen7]

Well I think there Comrades to us. Have you heard of Javaan in Iran?

[Abluegreen7]

Heres a link on the Revolutionairy Forces Of Iraq. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_Armed_Revolutionary_Resistance

[revolutionarysocialist]

The only Armed Revolutionary Resistance - marxist in Iraq like as i know is (RRSF) Armed stand of IRAQI REVOLUTIONAY MOAIST ORGANIZATION.

and i well try to get any information about (IARR)

[Abluegreen7]

By the way how strong are these Orginizations? Are they strong enough to throw over Iraq? We know they wont be able to with the US there though but when they leave could they? A Marxist or Maoist Iran would be somthing to see.

[A New Era]

Should we give this group our support? Does anyone know anything else about them? They are apparently not associated with the communist party of Iraq.

If they actually want the people of Iraq to seize power, yes. I do not think we know enough about them. So far so good though.

[Devrim]

By the way how strong are these Orginizations? Are they strong enough to throw over Iraq?

They are virtually non-existent.

Devrim

[Charles Xavier]

The communist party of iraq has been thoroughly inflitrated by right-wing big businesses They do not deserve support from the left. They have committed a historical failure towards the iraqi people.

[ships-cat]

Absent the coalition forces, the overwhelming social (and military) centre of gravity in Iraq is Islam. I'd be AMAZED if a communist group could garner any kind of following there, let alone instigate a revolution.

Has there been a coherent analysis of Marxist dialectic in the context of an entrenched theocracy ?

Meow Purr.

[Abluegreen7]

I think they could possibly win over Iraq with Socialism. Due to the fact that Women are exploited by Islam. I think an Communist Iraq would be a safer Iraq. You know? However I think women would play a major part in an Iraqi Cival/ Revolution war. If this happened I think that the Coalition forces would silence this easily. Coalition does not need a cival/revolution war it could destablilize the Reigon and create more recistance.

[Spirit of Spartacus]

We should support these comrades, of course.

They're just what Iraq needs.

[Red Flag Rising]

The only true faction to support in Iraq is the Communist Front Army. They have lost over 1,000 soldiers in the fight against American imperialism, 300 alone were killed in Khaheem Fahled.

[Abluegreen7]

Too bad thet did so bad How many americans did they take down?

[Benos145]

It's such a shame, given the imperialist capitalist nature of the occupation of Iraq, that only the chauvanist and reactionary organizations are getting traction, and those groups have in many places irreparably damaged the Iraqi struggle by targetting civilians and thereby sapping the Iraqi struggle of it's mass basis. The nationalists/religiousists have vulgarized the Iraqi struggle and thereby diminished the striking power of the Iraqi people to retaliate against American imperialism.

The religious nuts have done more in Iraq to keep American troops occupying the country, to denigrate the Iraqi struggle by making it look like a 'civil war' and thus justifying continued US rape of the economy and local labor force. The religious extremists have caused an upsurge toward the comprador imperialist Maliki government, bolstering the Army to over 600,000, and moreover their reactionary tactics deny and squander the revolutionary mass-basis for an Iraqi anti-imperialist revolution.

I think this goes against any 'leftists' and 'liberals' who think feudalists and bourgeois sons of billionaires like Bin Laden are 'fighting' US imperialism, rather they are strengthening it with terrorist actions like 9/11 and putting ammunition into the guns of the ruling class, which are shot at the working class.

[Abluegreen7]

It is a shame that Saddam ever rose to power. Theres only one reason he ever rose to power and killed atleast a million. The United States helped by Giving them guns. Thanks to our friends the US theres atleast one million civillans dead. The US causes more problems than it solves. History shows us that. Like this for example. Training Radical Muslims to Attack The Soviet Union In Afganistan. End Result September 11th attack. These Iraqis need to take Arms against the US. Takeing back there country is a must. This isnt democracy at all this is the US using there own puppet goverment.

[bayano]

The only true faction to support in Iraq is the Communist Front Army. They have lost over 1,000 soldiers in the fight against American imperialism, 300 alone were killed in Khaheem Fahled.

can you give any more info about them? i googled it and got absolutely zilch. the IARR doesn't bring out much either, excepting a new york times article.

many leftists try to support the UUI, oil workers, and worker communists, or less ideological groups. but solidarity activists have had real trouble finding groups to really support and work with (in part bcuz of stupid debates in the West of which groups to support), and i have only ever heard of one or two previous leftist armed partisan groups in iraq that has resisted the invasion. if the two groups mentioned above exist, we really need more info about them and need to publicize it to show there are others resisting besides baathists and islamist fundamentalists (groups which we can debate about, but will not get the support of antiwar activists any time soon)

[KurtFF8]

I think they could possibly win over Iraq with Socialism. Due to the fact that Women are exploited by Islam. I think an Communist Iraq would be a safer Iraq. You know? However I think women would play a major part in an Iraqi Cival/ Revolution war. If this happened I think that the Coalition forces would silence this easily. Coalition does not need a cival/revolution war it could destablilize the Reigon and create more recistance.

You bring up an interesting point here. As mentioned in the video about the women in the PKK posted here, that is one of the big draws for women joining the PKK in northern Iraq.

Iraq was a non-Marxist socialist country prior to the invasion and socialism does have support in the middle east.

Obviously in Iraq right now, it would be quite hard for a Marxist armed group to pop up as it would be quite swiftly defeated by the US army and new Iraqi Government.

[Abluegreen7]

The key to winning would be waiting til the Americans leave. It wont mean a complete sucess but it would give you a bigger shot at winning. Because the minute a Marxist group goes out and start dropping americans like shots of Vodka. The American Goverment is going to get angry fast.

[Yehuda Stern]

They seem like a Maoist group to me. In that case no support should be given to it politically, at best revolutionaries can make blocs with them in concrete actions, as with any organization in the resistance.



Iraq was a non-Marxist socialist country prior to the invasion and socialism does have support in the middle east.


The latter part of the sentence is correct, the beginning is laughable. How was Saddam's Iraq a socialist state in any meaning of the word?

[KurtFF8]

They seem like a Maoist group to me. In that case no support should be given to it politically, at best revolutionaries can make blocs with them in concrete actions, as with any organization in the resistance.



The latter part of the sentence is correct, the beginning is laughable. How was Saddam's Iraq a socialist state in any meaning of the word?

Well at least they claimed to be through state ownership of industry. Which I suppose is of course not necessarily socialist.

[Yehuda Stern]

Well at least they claimed to be through state ownership of industry. Which I suppose is of course not necessarily socialist.

Good! You have come upon a piece of truth that most ortotrots would not see if it hit them in the face.

[KurtFF8]

Good! You have come upon a piece of truth that most ortotrots would not see if it hit them in the face.

And I often even rail against people who claim that nationilization of industry is socialist. Silly me. I think the reason I used socialist is that the Baathist party was originally socialist, but not Marxian Socialists.

[Yehuda Stern]

Interestingly, Michel Aflaq was originally in the French CP, or at least was a sympathizer of it, but became disillusioned when the United Front with the CP in it supported the suppression of rebellions in Lebanon and Syria. He realized later that Stalin betrayed Marxism, but his answer was to go to the right towards nationalism. Either way, socialism remained rhetoric for all Baathist leaders, and Aflaq I think even criticized them himself for not being true to Baathist ideology.