Nikita Kruschev

[Abluegreen7]

I noticed there was no threads on Kruschev. So I thought Id make a thread for Nikita. Nikita Kruschev stopped the feared Stalinism and suppourted East Germanys Berlin Wall. I think he deserves a tribute comrades.:)

[Winter]

I noticed there was no threads on Kruschev. So I thought Id make a thread for Nikita. Nikita Kruschev stopped the feared Stalinism and suppourted East Germanys Berlin Wall. I think he deserves a tribute comrades.:)

This is a joke, right?

[Abluegreen7]

Whats a joke. Stalin was bad and I think a lot of leftists can admit that. Kruschev was way better. He controlled the Soviet Union better.:) Thats just my opinion though.

[Dros]

So you're a capitalist. Sadly, we don't restrict capitalist who support the Soviet Union. In my view, you have no place on this forum.

Khrushchev's revisionist theories turned back decades of social progress and killed the world's first socialist state.

Khrushchev deserves nothing but our hatred.

[Abluegreen7]

Im not a capitalist. I didnt know that Im sorry for this thread then. In other words Kruschev betrayed the soviet cause.

[Winter]

Khrushchev deserves nothing but our hatred.

Absolutely agreed.

As for Abluegreen, I'm going to assume your hatred of Stalin has taken you to a far support of revisionism without you even knowing it. Here's a good explanation of how Krushchev destroyed socialism in Russia:




<H3>Khrushchev and the pacific counter-revolution



After Beria's execution, Khrushchev became the most important figure in the Presidium. At the Twentieth Congress, in February 1956, he completely reversed the ideological and political line of the Party. He noisily announced that `Leninist democracy' and `collective leadership' were re-restablished, but he more or less imposed his Secret Report about Stalin on the other members of the Presidium. According to Molotov:
`When Khrushchev read his report to the Twentieth Congress, I had already been maneuvered into a dead-end. I have often been asked, why, during the Twentieth Congress, did you not speak out against Khrushchev? The Party was not ready for that. By staying in the Party, I hoped that we could partially redress the situation'.


The struggle between the two lines, between Marxism-Leninism and bourgeois tendencies, never ceased, right from October 25, 1917. With Khrushchev, the power relationship was reversed and opportunism, fought and repressed up to then, took over the leadership of the Party.

Revisionism took advantage of this position to liquidate, bit by bit, the Marxist-Leninist forces. Upon Stalin's death, there were ten in the Presidium: Malenkov, Beria, Khrushchev, Mikoyan, Molotov, Kaganovich, Voroshilov, Bulganin, Saburov and Pervukhin.

After Beria's elimination, Mikoyan stated in 1956 that in `the Central Committee and its Presidium in the last three years ... after a long interval collective leadership has been established'.

But the following year, Khrushchev and Mikoyan fired the rest, using the argument that `the anti-Party factionalist group' `wanted a return to the days, so painful fo our party and country, when the reprehensible methods and actions spawned by the cult of the individual held sway'.

Eliminating the Marxist-Leninist majority in the Presidium was possible thanks to the army, particularly Zhukov, and regional secretaries who came to support Khrushchev when he was in the minority. Molotov's, Malenkov's and Kaganovich's hesitations, lack of political acumen and conciliatory attitude caused their defeat.

In international politics, Stalin's line from 1945 to 1953 was completely dismantled. Khrushchev capitulated to the world bourgeoisie. He addressed the Party at the Twentieth Congress: `(T)he Party ... smashed obsolete ideas'. `We want to be friends with the United States'. `There are also substantial achievements in the building of socialism in Yugoslavia.' `(T)he working class ... has an opportunity to ... win a firm majority in parliament and to turn the parliament from an agency of bourgeois democracy into an instrument of genuinely popular will'.


Khrushchev began the dismantling of Stalin's work with all sorts of wonderful promises. Hearing them today, we can see that Khrushchev was simply a clown.

According to Khrushchev, `In the conditions of the cult of the individual .... People who usurp power ... escape from under (the Party's) control'.

These sycophants and magicians obviously disappeared along with Stalin. And Khrushchev continued:
`In the current decade (1961--1970) the Soviet Union, creating the material and technical base of communism, will surpass the strongest and richest capitalist country, the U.S.A.'


Twenty years after the `beginning of Communism' promised by Khrushchev for 1970, the Soviet Union exploded under the blows of U.S. imperialism; its republics are now controlled by maffiosi and rapacious capitalists; the people live in profound misery, unemployed; crime reigns supreme; nationalism and fascism have provoked horrible civil wars; there are tens of thousands dead and millions of refugees.

As for Stalin, he also looked at the uncertain future. The conclusions of the History of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (Bolsheviks): Short Course, whose writing he supervised in 1938, are worth re-examining, given recent events. They contain six fundamental lessons, drawn from the Bolshevik Party's experience. The fourth reads:
`Sceptics, opportunists, capitulators and traitors cannot be tolerated on the directing staff of the working class.

`It cannot be regarded as an accident that the Trotskyites, Bukharinites and nationalist deviators ... ended ... by becoming agents of fascist espionage services.
`The easiest way to capture a fortress is from within.'
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[Abluegreen7]

That pudgy little bastard. I Dont really hate Stalin though but I disagree with Certain things he did.

[Winter]

Im not a capitalist. I didnt know that Im sorry for this thread then. In other words Kruschev betrayed the soviet cause.


You're forgiven :p

I think the main reason for this forum is to learn and to educate one another. Friendly criticism is a must!

[Winter]

That pudgy little bastard. I Dont really hate Stalin though but I disagree with Certain things he did.


Here's a link to a book which defends Stalin that may interest you. It may help clearing away some pre-concieved ideas created by revisionist and reactionaries about him:

http://www.plp.org/books/Stalin/book.html

[Post-Something]

Kruschev was an asshole. Does anyone here like any of the leaders of the Soviet Union other than Lenin and Stalin? I don't know much about them to be honest.

[The Intransigent Faction]

Kruschev was an asshole. Does anyone here like any of the leaders of the Soviet Union other than Lenin and Stalin? I don't know much about them to be honest.

Certainly not Brezhnev, and DEFINITELY NOT Gorbachev.
Did you know Gorbachev does commercials now?
He is the very definition of "sellout".

[Dros]

Kruschev was an asshole. Does anyone here like any of the leaders of the Soviet Union other than Lenin and Stalin? I don't know much about them to be honest.

We had a Brezhnevite here for a while but he left.

[Dust Bunnies]

Could we atleast give Nikita props for having some humor?

person: go break a leg Stalin
Stalin: Gulags!

person: Sorry you can't go to Disney land
Kruschev: *insert that witty and somewhat funny quote about Disney land*

On a more serious note, Kruschev does not deserve any praise.