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Winter
15th August 2008, 21:26
Chairman Prachanda wins election to become Prime Minister of Nepalese Republic (http://democracyandclasstruggle.blogspot.com/2008/08/chairman-prachanda-win-election-to.html)


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Lawmakers from 20 of the 25 parties represented in the assembly voted overwhelmingly in favour of Maoist chairman Prachanda by signing their names in his support.

Prachanda– supported by 20 parties in the constituent assembly – managed to bag 464 votes in his favour when the proposal to elect him as PM was put before Constituent Assembly (CA) members.

On the other hand, 113 CA members – the Nepali Congress members voted against.

more stories: http://democracyandclasstruggle.blogspot.com/


Maoists of the world congratulate Nepalese CPN(M)!


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COMMUNIST PARTY OF INDIA (MARXIST-LENINIST)
JANASHAKTI
WEST BENGAL STATE COMMITTEE

To

The

Comrades of Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist)

Dear Comrades,

In the recent election of the Constituent Assembly there were three alternatives posed before the Nepalese people by different contesting parties - monarchy to be retained as it was, a constitutional monarchy with the king as figurehead and total abolition of monarchy to advance towards a democratic republic. Overwhelming majority of the people of Nepal has given their verdict for abolition of monarchy and establishment of democratic republic. In this struggle the Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist) led the people of Nepal successfully. The West Bengal State Committee of the Communist Party of India (Marxist -Leninist) Janashakti feels it is our proletarian internationalist duty to greet you, felicitate you for this victorious achievement.

The CPN (Maoist) has shown the world that if armed struggle is judiciously combined with all other forms of struggle it can become a powerful weapon in the arsenal of the people. The CPN (Maoist) has once more proved that protracted peoples war can be fought only by relying upon the masses. The CPN (Maoist) started the armed struggle and also fought the constitnent assembly elections with a people's charter. Basic aim of that charter is to free the people of Nepal from the clutches of imperialism and feudalism . Abolition of monarchy is a real advance, significant advance to that goal, but not the final victory. In this period of globalisation and absence of a socialist state, the people of Nepal under the leadership of the CPN (Maoist) will have to go through a prolonged, zig-zag path to achieve final victory.

We hope that CPN (Maoist) will lead the people of Nepal steadfastly to that victory and a people's democratic Nepal will be the logical culmination of that battle fighting both neo- revisionism and `left'- adventurism.

We pledge that we as communists of a neighbouring country will always fight sho ulder to shoulder against all imperialist conspiracies against the people of Nepal as well as the people of India. We shall fight against any imperialist effort to use Indian expansionism and it's backpiper Indian revisionism against the people of Nepal. We extend our support to your effort to renegotiate the Indo-Nepal Treaty on the basis of equality and five principles of peaceful co-existence.

Glory to the victory of the people of Nepal.

Glory to the victory of the Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist).

Long live Proletarian Internationalism, the deadly enemy of imperialism and its globalisation.

With Comradely Greetings

Aloke Mukherjee

SECRETARY

ON BEHALF OF

WEST BENGAL STATE COMMITTEE

COMMUNIST PARTY OF INDIA (Marxist-Leninst)

Janashakti


State Committee Office : 4, D. P. Shasmal Road, Kolkata - 700 033

North Bengal Office : Com. Khokan Majumdar, Vill. Khemchi, P.O. Naxalbari, Dist. - Darjeeling

Phone : +91-9434052710


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On behalf of the members and the leadership of Communist Party of Greece (marxist-leninist) we would like to convey our warmest revolutionary greetings and congratulations to the members and the leadership of the Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist) for the election of the first Prime Minister of the Federal Democratic Republic of Nepal.


The long process that has started and continues in Nepal has drawn the attention of the peoples across the world.
After the Constituent Assembly elections in April, the recent election of the first Prime Minister by the CA is reflecting the people's mandate once more.
Despite difficulties, foreign intervention and internal problems the people of Nepal are determined to pave the way for a prosperous future for them and the generations to come. Therefore the necessity to build a broad international solidarity movement becomes stronger.


Long Live International Solidarity
Long Live the Heroic Struggle of the Nepali People
--
Chris Mais

Saorsa
16th August 2008, 04:56
Well, let's see what happens from here. There's the potential for this to be the start of something amazing in Nepal, but it can also go horribly wrong. Hopefully the Maoists continue to follow their revolutionary path, and don'r become another "Communist" Party of India (Marxist).

Abluegreen7
16th August 2008, 05:19
Hopefully it doesnt go Horribly wrong like Alistair said.:( However I see major potential with this. In time we will see.:) I can only wish the best to our Nepalese comrades.:thumbup:

bleedingheart
16th August 2008, 05:47
Same story all over again. Workers party comes to power, only to exploit the workers later on!:( Frankly, I don't understand why people are falling for these political parties over and over, these workers parties are going to be no different than the bourgeois.:rolleyes: History is evidence to that.

Winter
16th August 2008, 08:10
Same story all over again. Workers party comes to power, only to exploit the workers later on!:( Frankly, I don't understand why people are falling for these political parties over and over, these workers parties are going to be no different than the bourgeois.:rolleyes: History is evidence to that.

Do you know alot about the CPN(M)? They waged a peoples war against the King of Nepal to destroy the monarchy, and they did. I understand your skepticism, but Chairman Prachanda has proven himself beyond a doubt to be a true revolutionary.

Holden Caulfield
16th August 2008, 09:40
^ i think bleedingheart might be a anarchist and then still he won't agree with you point, (i'm not having a go at Stalin) but Stalin took part in the civil war and alot or pre-revolutionary activism but still in my opinion betrayed the revolution

Ismail
16th August 2008, 09:48
Me: PROTRACTED PEOPLE'S WAR
Kromando: PROTRACTED ELECTION BATTLE
Kromando: OH THE EPICNESS
Kromando: CLASS STRUGGLE AT THE BALLOT BOX

turquino
16th August 2008, 10:12
Prachanda's victory is destructive. Nepal would be more revolutionary today if the People's War hadn't been ended prematurely, and its fighters ordered disarmed by the UN. Prachanda has promised private property seized during the People's War will be returned to its former owners. The gains made in liberated areas will be reversed. The fact is that the Nepalese masses would be better served today if there hadn't been an inch of progress made since 2005, that's how destructive Prachanda's victory is. :cursing:

turquino
16th August 2008, 10:18
Me: PROTRACTED PEOPLE'S WAR
Kromando: PROTRACTED ELECTION BATTLE
Kromando: OH THE EPICNESS
Kromando: CLASS STRUGGLE AT THE BALLOT BOX
:laugh:

Perhaps Prachanda could give Obama a few tips on this, one "true revolutionary" to another!

leftist manson
16th August 2008, 12:12
:laugh:

Perhaps Prachanda could give Obama a few tips on this, one "true revolutionary" to another!
Hi,
I would just like to comment on what you said. There is no doubt that this 'victory' is a negation of people's revolutionary 'army' concept and ongoing protracted war can be extended to the point where the productive forces have not been reached to their utmost .Even moreso, the fact that the struggles of fighters in Peru, Colombia, philippines, southern India, north kurdistan and elsewhere (Even the catalan struggles, IRA, UCK) have reached a 'standstill', declaring victory is a bit preposterous. But , isn't the abolishing of the monarchy a progressive act? YES Isn't a united front of all classes against Brit, American and Indian imperialism a progressive act? YES This falls nicely in the bougeois democratic revolution concept. I don't know where the problem is :wub:

leftist manson
16th August 2008, 12:17
Same story all over again. Workers party comes to power, only to exploit the workers later on!:( Frankly, I don't understand why people are falling for these political parties over and over, these workers parties are going to be no different than the bourgeois.:rolleyes: History is evidence to that.
Are you on CIA's payroll? Or just another 15 year old 'rebel'? I'm assuming you're the second one.What's solution do you propose? I know this comment wil be met by hostility but your armchair attitude towards this great victory is symptomatic os fashionista yuppie left. Hell you just criticized ALL progressive struggles of history by erecting the liberal hoax of the parties themselves becoming the oppressors.

bleedingheart
16th August 2008, 14:54
Are you on CIA's payroll? Or just another 15 year old 'rebel'? I'm assuming you're the second one.What's solution do you propose? I know this comment wil be met by hostility but your armchair attitude towards this great victory is symptomatic os fashionista yuppie left. Hell you just criticized ALL progressive struggles of history by erecting the liberal hoax of the parties themselves becoming the oppressors.

Calm down, will you? Try to be loyal to the leftist ideology, rather than to the leftist parties that promise paradise to the workers.:thumbup1: Second, this guy prachanda and his men have killed innocent men and women to grab power. Please don't tell me they're progressive, just because they claim to be leftists. Anyone can make such claims, if Hitler had made similar claims, would you also defend him?:(

The problem with most leftists is, they feel it's imperative to support those claiming to be leftists, without ever trying to understand their ulterior motives. Just because monarchy has been overthrown, it doesn't necessarily follow that those who overthrew it must be progressives.:confused: This is a silly conclusion based on blind sentimentalism. Let's observe facts objectively, and then determine whether or not a person/party is leftist.

Most political parties that claim to be leftist are doing so for mass support, nothing more to it.:wub: Once these leftists assume power, then you'll see them implementing the same policies as do the capitalists. West Bengal in India is one instance.

Let's not be fooled by politicians, that's all I am saying. Their alleged love for workers is simply a means to power, a means to gain support and sympathy of the masses, nothing more, so let's not pin our hopes on them.

Ramachandra
16th August 2008, 16:03
[QUOTthis guy prachanda and his men have killed innocent men and women to grab power. Please don't tell me they're progressive, just because they claim to be leftists. Anyone can make such claims, if Hitler had made similar claims, would you also defend him?http://www.revleft.com/vb/prachanda-wins-election-t86770/revleft/smilies/sad.gif

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well then some one can say even lenin is no revolutionery as "innocent" people were died during the revolution.
I'm not completly optimistic about nepalese maoists victory but i'm not pessimistic either.I've heard that prachanda promised investors that no one will gonna "hurt" them and it seems to be class collaboration rather than class struggle.Anyway i hope there should b some kind of an explanation for that.Still It's a great victory becoz there were two other "communist" parties in nepal who never even thought about doing politics with out the assistance of the Nepali congress.The struggle which was a combination between armed and peacefull ressistance used by the CPN-M is quiite creative and gives a ray of hope to the sub continent.Anyway i must add that it won't be easy to continue coz even Indian expanding in the sub continent is getting reallt tough

RaĂºl Duke
16th August 2008, 16:08
Well at least the got rid of the monarchy (and the remnants of feudalism, right?)...a first step I suppose...

But they got a long way to go to reach communism...

Abluegreen7
16th August 2008, 16:37
What the world needs is another Kruschev. The best leader the Soviets had. :)

dez
16th August 2008, 16:41
Calm down, will you? Try to be loyal to the leftist ideology, rather than to the leftist parties that promise paradise to the workers.:thumbup1: Second, this guy prachanda and his men have killed innocent men and women to grab power. Please don't tell me they're progressive, just because they claim to be leftists. Anyone can make such claims, if Hitler had made similar claims, would you also defend him?:(



You're full of liberal nonsense.
Please don't tell me that "this guy prachanda and his men are evil and can never be progressive because they killed people".
The borgeoise will not let go of their privileges, without resorting to violence in the end.
Progressive people will have, at some point, to use of it too.
Godwin's law (that every internet based discussion ends up in refferences to the third reich) could be inserted in modern techniques of sophistry. If hitler made similar claims, but was instead a nepali maoist and had a programme that had socialism as a goal and a history of confiscating property and standing up for the people's rights, I would stand by him.


The problem with most leftists is, they feel it's imperative to support those claiming to be leftists, without ever trying to understand their ulterior motives. Just because monarchy has been overthrown, it doesn't necessarily follow that those who overthrew it must be progressives.:confused: This is a silly conclusion based on blind sentimentalism. Let's observe facts objectively, and then determine whether or not a person/party is leftist.

Most political parties that claim to be leftist are doing so for mass support, nothing more to it.:wub: Once these leftists assume power, then you'll see them implementing the same policies as do the capitalists. West Bengal in India is one instance.

Let's not be fooled by politicians, that's all I am saying. Their alleged love for workers is simply a means to power, a means to gain support and sympathy of the masses, nothing more, so let's not pin our hopes on them.


Leftism in its original definition was simply to be in the left portion of the french parliament, which was constituted of people that opposed the status quo and sided with the third estate(masses). They were politicians. In this (well, not just this), you contradict yourself.





And Turquino, this is a Lenin quote:

It would be the greatest mistake, certainly, to think that concessions mean peace. Nothing of the kind. Concessions are nothing but a new form of war.

bleedingheart
16th August 2008, 21:29
You're full of liberal nonsense.
Please don't tell me that "this guy prachanda and his men are evil and can never be progressive because they killed people".

Unfortunately, except for your word, we don't have much evidence that prachanda is socialist.:) All his actions so far (which has resulted in the killing of ordinary, working class people, NOT the bourgeois) prove that he's an opportunist:(, rather than a socialist. Enough said.

BTW, in case anyone is wondering how I can be so confident of my views, keep in mind I am a subcontinent fellow myself. The literacy rates are abysmally low,:( and most people in the subcontinent have no idea what socialism (or any ideology) is about. They fight all the time (if not the state, then they fight amongst themselves), because it's the way of life in subcontinent, and NOT because they have sympathy for socialism! The only reason every johnny-come-lately (in the subcontinent) calls himself a socialist:crying: is because it's fashionable to do so.

So all I am saying is: just because these people are fighting the state, do we have to assume that they're doing so due to their ideological leanings?:confused: Let's be objective about this, and not hastily assume that every uneducated, gun carrying militant is a socialist.

dez
16th August 2008, 22:49
Unfortunately, except for your word, we don't have much evidence that prachanda is socialist.:) All his actions so far (which has resulted in the killing of ordinary, working class people, NOT the bourgeois) prove that he's an opportunist:(, rather than a socialist. Enough said.

BTW, in case anyone is wondering how I can be so confident of my views, keep in mind I am a subcontinent fellow myself. The literacy rates are abysmally low,:( and most people in the subcontinent have no idea what socialism (or any ideology) is about. They fight all the time (if not the state, then they fight amongst themselves), because it's the way of life in subcontinent, and NOT because they have sympathy for socialism! The only reason every johnny-come-lately (in the subcontinent) calls himself a socialist:crying: is because it's fashionable to do so.

So all I am saying is: just because these people are fighting the state, do we have to assume that they're doing so due to their ideological leanings?:confused: Let's be objective about this, and not hastily assume that every uneducated, gun carrying militant is a socialist.


Agreed, but lets not assume the contrary either.
That every gun carrying militant isn't a socialist.

turquino
16th August 2008, 23:57
Hi,
I would just like to comment on what you said. There is no doubt that this 'victory' is a negation of people's revolutionary 'army' concept and ongoing protracted war can be extended to the point where the productive forces have not been reached to their utmost .Even moreso, the fact that the struggles of fighters in Peru, Colombia, philippines, southern India, north kurdistan and elsewhere (Even the catalan struggles, IRA, UCK) have reached a 'standstill', declaring victory is a bit preposterous. But , isn't the abolishing of the monarchy a progressive act? YES Isn't a united front of all classes against Brit, American and Indian imperialism a progressive act? YES This falls nicely in the bougeois democratic revolution concept. I don't know where the problem is :wub:
Imperialism has nothing to fear from Prachanda. His New Democracy involves keeping semi-feudal relations intact and inviting foreign capitalists in for 'development'. He spoke at an Indian conference attended by politicians and corporate leaders, right after Rudolph Giuliani! If this makes Prachanda a socialist, then why isn't Hamid Karzai one too? In my view they're equivalent.

leftist manson
17th August 2008, 02:44
Imperialism has nothing to fear from Prachanda. His New Democracy involves keeping semi-feudal relations intact and inviting foreign capitalists in for 'development'. He spoke at an Indian conference attended by politicians and corporate leaders, right after Rudolph Giuliani! If this makes Prachanda a socialist, then why isn't Hamid Karzai one too? In my view they're equivalent.
Hey with all due respect, do you know about the NEP?
What do you want him to do? Just as i outlined above , world 'revolutionary' struggles are at a 'standstill' not because they have been forced back but because the time for the complete downturn of imperialist-backed 'comprador' class relations has not come yet. Imperialist armies in Iraq, Afghanistan and haiti are keeping the system alive and well. Moreover, productive forces in the imperialist center have not blossomed fully. The american south is a 'post-colonial society' and has a long way to go. AT this moment what do YOU propose? Moreover, you didn't answer my question directly. Why don't the imperialists need to fear CPNM? Who do you think the imperialists prefer, full blueblooded feudalism under a diamond-studded monarch or a semi-feudal class-relations(your words although i don't believe that this has any basis in reality)?Again full-blooded feudalism or semi-capitalism where the west is exporting finance capital and not useless commodities like coca bloody cola? As for him speaking right after Giuliani, buddy if Immanuel wallerstein spoke after George Bush at such a conference would that make him a blood-sucking ne0-con too?:rolleyes: