Lumpen-Enabling Behaviour

[Mr. Money Bags]

While having a stickybeak around these forums, I came upon a thread where many members talked of their drug use.

I was under the impression that drug dealers were lumpens. So by buying drugs from them aren't you enabling the lumpens to sustain their lifestyles? And if financial support for drug dealers were to cease, another lumpen subgroup would diminish in number: prostitutes. Because, as is widely known, many prostitutes sell their bodies for drug money.

Looking forward to your replies:thumbup1:

[Sentinel]

When buying stuff in the supermarkets, or working there for that matter, we are also enabling capitalists to sustain their lifestyles. That of course doesn't mean that we approve of them, but that in a given system you have to play along if you wish to make it.

In communism drugs hopefully wouldn't be illegal, and the problem would thus be solved -- and at the very least nobody would have to sell their body to get them, with no money and all, and with society taking care of the citizens.

[apathy maybe]

While having a stickybeak around these forums, I came upon a thread where many members talked of their drug use.

I was under the impression that drug dealers were lumpens. So by buying drugs from them aren't you enabling the lumpens to sustain their lifestyles? And if financial support for drug dealers were to cease, another lumpen subgroup would diminish in number: prostitutes. Because, as is widely known, many prostitutes sell their bodies for drug money.

Looking forward to your replies:thumbup1:
Some things:
Not all of us are Marxists, and thus not all of us categorise people into the "lumpen" box.
If you look at a "gang" that deals drugs, most of the pushers aren't rich king-pins at all, and would only be classed as "lumpen" because their labour is being used illegally. The king-pins would be classed as capitalist in any logical class structure (that was based on economics at any rate).
Moreover "prostitutes" no more selling their bodies then any other labourer or service provider (such as a masseur).

[Killfacer]

im pretty sure most people will end up agreeing that in reality using drugs is bad. Cocaine causes loads of deaths in columbia etc. So someone people a "lumpen" isnt exactly the worst result of drug use.

[Schrödinger's Cat]

im pretty sure most people will end up agreeing that in reality using drugs is bad. Cocaine causes loads of deaths in columbia etc. So someone people a "lumpen" isnt exactly the worst result of drug use.

Methinks if you take all the variables into consideration the alcohol market kills more people than the marijuana market, at least.

The OP makes no sense. Technically holding a job means you're likely preventing someone from employment. Do we all give up our jobs? Do we give up chocolate consumption due to the appalling conditions capitalists establish in the undeveloped world? How about rice?

The lumpen-proletariat class exists because of pro-capitalist laws. If we're going to live against all pro-capitalist laws, we'll live like hermits.

[Killfacer]

plus it aint gonna stop, even if it harms people. Like GeneCosta said, there are other industries which cause as much damage. Plus drug dealers are not that much of a blight on society when compared with sweatshops or something else.

[RGacky3]

Plus drug dealers are not that much of a blight on society when compared with sweatshops or something else.

The difference is, legal Capitalists don't profit from drug dealers, Drug Dealers arn't playing the game according to the rules, what is called a light on society has little to do with damage to lives, it has to do with playing by the rules of Capitalism.

You compare what Sweatshops have done compared to street pushers, its incomparable, street pushers are like saints compared to these Sweatshop Capitalists.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Hey, I have to get my drugs from somewhere.