Gay people should not have sex -- split from Discrimination

[jaiden]

kids need to stop growing up to fast and start being kids. kids dont go around having sex. hell no. i dont care if you think sex is fun and pleasurable, it is not to be used as casual fun, that is absurd. sex is reserved for marriage because it indicates true love for their spouse. you shouldn't be showing your body too much with others, what the heck? maybe you should get some morals kid. and yes sex is FOR reproduction, hence what occurs from it. leave sex until you find the person you want to spend the rest of your life with, not for casual fun. also for you want to have kids with, because that is what sex is about afterall.

[Holden Caulfield]

kids need to stop growing up to fast and start being kids. kids dont go around having sex. hell no. i dont care if you think sex is fun and pleasurable, it is not to be used as casual fun, that is absurd. sex is reserved for marriage because it indicates true love for their spouse. you shouldn't be showing your body too much with others, what the heck? maybe you should get some morals kid. and yes sex is FOR reproduction, hence what occurs from it. leave sex until you find the person you want to spend the rest of your life with, not for casual fun. also for you want to have kids with, because that is what sex is about afterall.

firstly hahaha for your opinions,

secondly if sex is for reproduction should gays never have sex? should gay people in places they cant marry not have sex?

sex is for bonding, pleasure, fun, to pass the time, etc etc,

[Redmau5]

i dont care if you think sex is fun and pleasurable,

You just mustn't be getting any.


it is not to be used as casual fun

Who says, you? What's wrong with casual sex?

[jaiden]

no gay people should not have sex. thats disgusting. its like asking me if a 40 year old guy should have sex with a 6 year old girl. sex is not for casual interation. casual interation is chatting, watching movies, playing board games etc. NOT expressing love towards people they dont even love, its completely immoral.

[Sentinel]

Please do not post outside Opposing Ideologies from now on. This is where you belong. Thanks.

[AutomaticMan]

no gay people should not have sex. thats disgusting. its like asking me if a 40 year old guy should have sex with a 6 year old girl. sex is not for casual interation. casual interation is chatting, watching movies, playing board games etc. NOT expressing love towards people they dont even love, its completely immoral.

Dude, just come on out of the closet already. It's fun. ;)

[Bud Struggle]

no gay people should not have sex. thats disgusting. its like asking me if a 40 year old guy should have sex with a 6 year old girl. sex is not for casual interation. casual interation is chatting, watching movies, playing board games etc. NOT expressing love towards people they dont even love, its completely immoral.

How FORWARD thinking of you. :)

[PigmerikanMao]

no gay people should not have sex. thats disgusting. its like asking me if a 40 year old guy should have sex with a 6 year old girl.

Wow, class act. Comparing homosexuality to pedophilia because he thinks it's "disgusting." How the fuck is this guy not restricted? Seriously, idiots like you make me reconsider an exploited first world class! Go fuck a blowup doll and get off Revleft.

[RedAnarchist]

http://blogs.salon.com/0002007/images/lesbian_kiss.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/194/516486422_ec67342821.jpg?v=0

[Lector Malibu]

I think the member Forward was smarter than this one. Yet they both have one thing in common. The ability to run they're mouths about something they know nothing about.

[Bud Struggle]

Well, personally I like the Lesbians--the other stuff--not so much. ;):lol:

[PigmerikanMao]

I think the member Forward was smarter than this one. Yet they both have one thing in common. The ability to run they're mouths about something they know nothing about.

Forward was much smarter than this one- and that's saying a damn lot! :cursing:

[Mindtoaster]

If gay sex is unnatural then why does the stimulation of the prostate cause sexual pleasure?

And I'm with TomK, this guy writes an awful lot like Forward.

[Drace]

Sex does not show love between two, wtf.

[Lector Malibu]

Well, personally I like the Lesbians--the other stuff--not so much. ;):lol:

Come on Tom they are just kissing. You're not gonna get cooties or anything :lol:

[Killfacer]

dont you get ban for homophobia?

[Lector Malibu]

dont you get ban for homophobia?

Homophobia is a restrict worthy offense. Talk to a moderator or a CC member and they will take action.

[Chapter 24]

no gay people should not have sex. thats disgusting. its like asking me if a 40 year old guy should have sex with a 6 year old girl. sex is not for casual interation. casual interation is chatting, watching movies, playing board games etc. NOT expressing love towards people they dont even love, its completely immoral.

Well, words like "disgusting" are subjective and what may be sexually "disgusting" to you make be pleasurable and arousing to someone else. If you don't wish to partake in anal sex then don't have it, but don't judge others for wishing to. It's all part of the whole maturity thing of accepting others for who they are. Grow up.

[pusher robot]

Homophobia is a restrict worthy offense. Talk to a moderator or a CC member and they will take action.

Is it "homophobia" if homosexuality disgusts you?

[RedAnarchist]

Is it "homophobia" if homosexuality disgusts you?

Yes.

Why would it disgust you? Its just adults kissing or having sex. They are doing something natural and consensual. Do you think gay people find heterosexuality disgusting?

[Killfacer]

good point.

[PigmerikanMao]

Do you think gay people find heterosexuality disgusting?

No, we don't. Why the fuck would we? :laugh:

[Sentinel]

Is it "homophobia" if homosexuality disgusts you?


Main Entry:ho·mo·pho·bia Pronunciation: \ˌhō-mə-ˈfō-bē-ə\ Function:noun Date:1969 : irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals
— ho·mo·pho·bic \-ˈfō-bik\ adjective
I think jaiden's reaction to gay sex being mentioned was quite telling of such an aversion. His position that gays should refrain from sex because of his own, personal complexes is even more problematic though.

[Post-Something]

This is a fucking troll, ban him.

[Schrödinger's Cat]

The day unwanted pregnancy and STDs become as irrelevant as smallpox is the day society becomes a hella' lot funner. :thumbup1:

[Glenn Beck]

Restrict? No, ban. Bigotry isn't an opposing ideology, it's a poison that has no worth. There isn't anything to debate with a bigot.

[Lector Malibu]

Is it "homophobia" if homosexuality disgusts you?


As an open homosexual myself It does not. :lol: To answer your question though yes.

[Lector Malibu]

Restrict? No, ban. Bigotry isn't an opposing ideology, it's a poison that has no worth. There isn't anything to debate with a bigot.


I don't make the rules. You should talk about this with a CC member or a Moderator directly and express you're concerns about board policy.

[Socialist18]

kids need to stop growing up to fast and start being kids. kids dont go around having sex. hell no. i dont care if you think sex is fun and pleasurable, it is not to be used as casual fun, that is absurd. sex is reserved for marriage because it indicates true love for their spouse. you shouldn't be showing your body too much with others, what the heck? maybe you should get some morals kid. and yes sex is FOR reproduction, hence what occurs from it. leave sex until you find the person you want to spend the rest of your life with, not for casual fun. also for you want to have kids with, because that is what sex is about afterall.
Why is it that I remain restricted yet this fool is not?!?!?!

[Dr Mindbender]

Why is it that I remain restricted yet this fool is not?!?!?!

good question.

I suppose the admins that control the banhammer have overlooked these posts.

[Sentinel]

He has been restricted now. :)

[pusher robot]

Yes.

Why would it disgust you? Its just adults kissing or having sex. They are doing something natural and consensual. Do you think gay people find heterosexuality disgusting?

Disgust is an emotion. It cannot be explained rationally, except maybe to say that mental substitution may have something to do with it.

I mean, it's also "natural" and "consensual" for a dog to eat its own crap. But it's still disgusting.

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

Wow, class act. Comparing homosexuality to pedophilia because he thinks it's "disgusting." How the fuck is this guy not restricted? Seriously, idiots like you make me reconsider an exploited first world class! Go fuck a blowup doll and get off Revleft.

LoL it's the third world which holds the most "reactionary" views on this and many other subjects.

[Cult of Reason]

no gay people should not have sex. thats disgusting. its like asking me if a 40 year old guy should have sex with a 6 year old girl. sex is not for casual interation. casual interation is chatting, watching movies, playing board games etc. NOT expressing love towards people they dont even love, its completely immoral.

Following that logic, the sewers should not be cleared because they are disgusting, rats should not be exterminated because it is disgusting, biogas should not be made from effluent because it is disgusting etc..

No, the reason that homosexuals should not have sex is because ALL THAT TESTOSTERONE WILL MAKE THEM SPONTANEOUSLY COMBUST! You see, there is a reason for men living shorter lives than women: as an oxidising agent, testosterone causes damage to the cell membranes as it is sloshing around the bloodstream. Testosterone is also released into the air when the male is in a state of sexual excitement, and its concentration in air reaches its peak at the moment of climax. Unfortunately, when two males are sodomising each other the combined contributions of testosterone from their bodies is sometimes enough (at high enough concentrations, correlated to excitement levels) to cause the oxygen in the air to spontaneously react with it, combusting both their bodies and the immediate environment.

For this reason, homosexuality should be outlawed in the interests of the public's safety, and to reduce the firefighting budget and insurance premiums. There are statistics that show a correlation with homosexuality for the incidence of house fires. Did you ever wonder why San Francisco, or Berlin, had so many? Homosexuality must be stopped for the sake of the economy and human life.

Myself, I am disgusted by this forum's tolerance for those so irresponsible that they would risk other people's lives (as well as their own) for the sake of pleasure. For shame!

[Plagueround]

Disgust is an emotion. It cannot be explained rationally, except maybe to say that mental substitution may have something to do with it.

I mean, it's also "natural" and "consensual" for a dog to eat its own crap. But it's still disgusting.

Sounds to me like most disgust is a conditioned disconnect or coping mechanism. This may sound a bit odd, but if the site of a dog eating its own crap is disgusting, its probably derived from one's own conditioned feelings about feces (likely these attitudes are attained in toilet training). Some of these conditionings are probably necessary habits for keeping healthy, sanitary, and safe, others are likely just learned attitudes that spring from fears and taboos. The trick, I suppose, is recognizing which ones are survival based and which ones are irrational fears we should cast off. I'm of the opinion that homophobia is one of the ones that needs to be shed if one does possess such fearful conditioning, and it makes me glad to see this happening (although we still have a long way to go).

Not to try and sound like I'm above all of this, I'm merely human and I'm also not a big fan of dog crap. :)

[The Feral Underclass]

no gay people should not have sex. thats disgusting. its like asking me if a 40 year old guy should have sex with a 6 year old girl. sex is not for casual interation. casual interation is chatting, watching movies, playing board games etc. NOT expressing love towards people they dont even love, its completely immoral.

You need to get laid. Loser.

[PigmerikanMao]

LoL it's the third world which holds the most "reactionary" views on this and many other subjects.
That's debatable. ;)

[Killfacer]

now pusher is comparing homosexuality with dogs eating their own shit.

[pusher robot]

now pusher is comparing homosexuality with dogs eating their own shit.


Screw you. This is why the forums are so catatonic when it comes to intelligent debate. Here I am trying to explain my understanding of the concept of disgust by giving examples, a perfectly legitimate method of reasoning, and all you can do is come along and try distort what I am saying to try to attribute beliefs to me I don't have.

You're just trying to stop the conversation, probably because it's too politically incorrect for you to handle. But of course progress will never be made if we cannot talk about the things that make us uncomfortable.

[apathy maybe]

He has been restricted now. :)

*cough* Maybe this thread could be closed now. There isn't any real debate any more, and if Pusher and friends wish to continue debating (and personally, I don't see anything wrong with that debate, nor do I think that Pusher is a homophobic scumbag), then it can either be split or a new thread started. (I would be interested in an intelligent debate on "disgust", what we have now isn't one though.)

[Killfacer]

i was joking... christ. Who the fuck are you anyway? "Too politically incorrect for you". Freak.

[rosa-rl]

Disgust is a socially conditioned response. It is learned. Disgust with homosexuality is thus not innate in any way. I find that exposure tends to lessen these responses a great deal because we learn to understand where others are coming from. Personally I've never found homosexuality disgusting, in fact I was drawn to other women initially, before I ever dated men. I find nothing unnatural about that - in fact dating men posed a real challenge for me.

For those who find that they think homosexuality is disgusting, I wonder if they have ever had a good blow job or ever jacked off - that doesn't make babies either!

[XII Bones IIX]

I don't understand why people get so worked up over this topic. GLBT's are still people they should have the rights to do the same damn things that hetero couples can. It's a load of shit that people can't openly express who they are without having to look over their shoulder. Gays should be able to fight, fuck, dance, and destroy, just like a hetero. I can't believe this thread has actually survived for this long.

[Plagueround]

*cough* Maybe this thread could be closed now. There isn't any real debate any more, and if Pusher and friends wish to continue debating (and personally, I don't see anything wrong with that debate, nor do I think that Pusher is a homophobic scumbag), then it can either be split or a new thread started. (I would be interested in an intelligent debate on "disgust", what we have now isn't one though.)

Aw that hurts my feelings, I thought my feelings on disgust were leaning toward intelligent debate. :crying:

[RGacky3]

Having a problem with homosexuality is like having a problem with someone having scrambled eggs in the morning, it does'nt effect you at all, its none of your business, and why do you care!!! If you find it discusting, fine, don't do it, there we go.

Saying sex is'nt for casual fun makes no sense, because the only argument behind it could possible be "becase I say so," thats it.

[Ken]

Yes.

Why would it disgust you? Its just adults kissing or having sex. They are doing something natural and consensual. Do you think gay people find heterosexuality disgusting?

i find homosexuals to be fucking disgusting, but i am not homophobic.

[Jazzratt]

i find homosexuals to be fucking disgusting, but i am not homophobic.

Yes you are.

[Ken]

explain how.

[Jazzratt]

explain how.


http://www.revleft.com/vb/revleft/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.revleft.com/vb/showthread.php?p=1231812#post1231812) i find homosexuals to be fucking disgusting

Troll harder.

[RedAnarchist]

explain how.

To be homophobic is to hate homosexuals and/or generalise about them. You find them disgusting, therefore you are an homophobe.

[Bilan]

i find homosexuals to be fucking disgusting, but i am not homophobic.

You're not only a homophobe, but you're also an absolute piece of shit.

Drop dead, you fucking prick.

[Ken]

type a few more words Jazzrat, i am really curious to see how my finding homosexuals disgusting makes me a homophobe. or you can label me a troll if you are too cowardly to engage in intellectual argument.

i am trying to look up "homophobia" and "homophobic" but none of the pages are loading. if someone can quote a definition and the source link, that would be awesome.

i believe in equal rights for homosexuals, and do not discriminate against them, i am not part of any anti-homosexual group that spreads homophobia etc.

yet i find them to be really disgusting.

while still treating them all the same.

i am homophobic?

[nuisance]

It you don't want to restrict homosexuals from doing anything then fair enough, but still you're a ridiculous prude.

[Jazzratt]

type a few more words Jazzrat, i am really curious to see how my finding homosexuals disgusting makes me a homophobe. or you can label me a troll if you are too cowardly to engage in intellectual argument.

i am trying to look up "homophobia" and "homophobic" but none of the pages are loading. if someone can quote a definition and the source link, that would be awesome.

i believe in equal rights for homosexuals, and do not discriminate against them, i am not part of any anti-homosexual group that spreads homophobia etc.

yet i find them to be really disgusting.

while still treating them all the same.

i am homophobic?

You are as homophobic as someone who insists that, while they should have equal rights, black people are inferior. Not being homophobic isn't simply tolerating the existance of homosexuals it is accepting them, saying they are "fucking disgusting" isn't acceptance, it's your personal bigotry.

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

type a few more words Jazzrat, i am really curious to see how my finding homosexuals disgusting makes me a homophobe. or you can label me a troll if you are too cowardly to engage in intellectual argument.

i am trying to look up "homophobia" and "homophobic" but none of the pages are loading. if someone can quote a definition and the source link, that would be awesome.

i believe in equal rights for homosexuals, and do not discriminate against them, i am not part of any anti-homosexual group that spreads homophobia etc.

yet i find them to be really disgusting.

while still treating them all the same.

i am homophobic?


You are a prudeish turd. Not being sexualy aroused is not the same as being disgusted.

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[Ken]

You are as homophobic as someone who insists that, while they should have equal rights, black people are inferior. Not being homophobic isn't simply tolerating the existance of homosexuals it is accepting them, saying they are "fucking disgusting" isn't acceptance, it's your personal bigotry.

nope, i have many gay friends, and accept them by making them delicious gourmet food whenever they come over to my apartment, the same food i make for my heterosexual friends, the point here being that i have accepted them into my life.

are you saying that, because however covertly, deep inside myself i feel a little turned off by homosexuals, this makes me homophobic?

forgive me for finding this amusing, because i have participated in many mardi gras campaigns(the pro-gay festival in Sydney that the guy who called me a piece of shit would know about).

[Jazzratt]

are you saying that, because however covertly, deep inside myself i feel a little turned off by homosexuals, this makes me homophobic?

Being "a little turned off" and finding people "fucking disgusting" are completely different. Everyone heterosexual is turned off, or at least not turned on, by acts of homosexuality between members of their gender (members of the opposite gender is a different question entirely) but to go as far as to say they are "fucking disgusted"? Not so much. Especially if they say they are "fucking disgusted" by homosexuals as a whole. So either you've worded yourself incorrectly in your opening statement or you're lying somewhere in your other posts and are in fact a homophobic turd. Which is it?

[Schrödinger's Cat]

At the very least you should learn a better way to phrase your statements. The reception you get from here on will probably be negative for saying homosexuals are fucking disgusting. If you had said you find homosexual sex disgusting, that might not be anywhere near as bad, although I have to question why you make such an obvious statement. Heterosexuals aren't exactly turned on by the thought.

[Bud Struggle]

At the very least you should learn a better way to phrase your statements. The reception you get from here on will probably be negative for saying homosexuals are fucking disgusting. If you had said you find homosexual sex disgusting, that might not be anywhere near as bad, although I have to question why you make such an obvious statement. Heterosexuals aren't exactly turned on by the thought.

You are being too nice, Gene.

[Socialist18]

Disgust is a socially conditioned response. It is learned. Disgust with homosexuality is thus not innate in any way. I find that exposure tends to lessen these responses a great deal because we learn to understand where others are coming from. Personally I've never found homosexuality disgusting, in fact I was drawn to other women initially, before I ever dated men. I find nothing unnatural about that - in fact dating men posed a real challenge for me.Exactly, we are all taught to reject it from birth, people wouldn't be disgusted by it if they were taught it was a normal part of life. Incidentally I'm very awkward around women and I find being around other guys feels more natural to me and I have plenty of confidence around them.


For those who find that they think homosexuality is disgusting, I wonder if they have ever had a good blow job or ever jacked off - that doesn't make babies either!On a side note, guys give better blow jobs than women in my experience, it must be due to the fact that we are very familiar with the equipment.LOL





Originally Posted by jaiden http://www.revleft.com/vb/../revleft/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.revleft.com/vb/../showthread.php?p=1218206#post1218206)
kids need to stop growing up to fast and start being kids. kids dont go around having sex. hell no. i dont care if you think sex is fun and pleasurable, it is not to be used as casual fun, that is absurd. sex is reserved for marriage because it indicates true love for their spouse. you shouldn't be showing your body too much with others, what the heck? maybe you should get some morals kid. and yes sex is FOR reproduction, hence what occurs from it. leave sex until you find the person you want to spend the rest of your life with, not for casual fun. also for you want to have kids with, because that is what sex is about afterall.
You are a fucking jerk, of course sex is for fun, reproduction is just a possible side effect of it, it doesn't have to be its primary reason. By your reasoning Gay people shouldn't have sex EVER!


You're not only a homophobe, but you're also an absolute piece of shit.

Drop dead, you fucking prick. LMAO:)

[Ken]

At the very least you should learn a better way to phrase your statements. The reception you get from here on will probably be negative for saying homosexuals are fucking disgusting. If you had said you find homosexual sex disgusting, that might not be anywhere near as bad, although I have to question why you make such an obvious statement. Heterosexuals aren't exactly turned on by the thought.

yeah it was my choice of words which attracted such hostility. but no replies besides yours helped in any way my understanding of homosexuality, or helped me become less of a 'homophobe' haha.

i didnt think revleft would be so politically correct.

[pusher robot]

Exactly, we are all taught to reject it from birth, people wouldn't be disgusted by it if they were taught it was a normal part of life. Incidentally I'm very awkward around women and I find being around other guys feels more natural to me and I have plenty of confidence around them.

I'm not so sure about that. Are you saying that disgust is 100% social and 0% instinctual?


Not being sexualy aroused is not the same as being disgusted.

Is it? I see them as opposite sides of the same coin. I want to have sex with people that arouse me. I am indifferent about people that do not strongly arouse me or repulse me. I am disgusted at the idea of sex with someone who repulses me.

[Socialist18]

I'm not so sure about that. Are you saying that disgust is 100% social and 0% instinctual?


I wouldn't like to speculate on the exact percentage but I do feel it has a lot to do with it, more so than any natural inclination.

[Decolonize The Left]

yeah it was my choice of words which attracted such hostility. but no replies besides yours helped in any way my understanding of homosexuality, or helped me become less of a 'homophobe' haha.

i didnt think revleft would be so politically correct.

Ok, here you go, the definition of "homophobia:"
"Fear of homosexuals or of becoming one.
Antipathy towards homosexuals." (wiktionary.com)

"unreasoning fear of or antipathy toward homosexuals and homosexuality" (dictionary.com)

Finding homosexuals "fucking disgusting" is not only insulting and derogatory, but also demonstrative of "antipathy towards homosexuals." Hence those who have labeled you a homophobe have done so with good reason.

Now, you have since clarified your earlier statements, to now say that you feel "slightly turned off" by homosexual sex. You can see the difference between your earlier claim and this one?

- August

[Bud Struggle]

'Gaiety is the most outstanding feature of the Soviet Union.--Joseph Stalin.