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Segadoway
14th August 2008, 14:07
what are the rights of a parent and a child?.
should a parent be allowed to suppress a child's rights, even with something as trivial as swearing?
is a parent's job simply to raise and nurture a child but not dictate them?
discuss
Bud Struggle
14th August 2008, 14:23
what are the rights of a parent and a child?.
should a parent be allowed to suppress a child's rights, even with something as trivial as swearing?
is a parent's job simply to raise and nurture a child but not dictate them?
discuss
It's a parent's duty (right) to raise a child in the way that he/she see fit as long as it falls withing the bounds of what is legally acceptable by the government.
If a mom wants her kids raised Buddahist--it's her right to teach the kid Buddahism. If she wants too teach the kid to blow up factories and begin the revolution--she'll probably go to jail and the kid will be taken away from her.
As long as the kid is living at home the parent could "dictate" whatever they want to the kid. When the kid moves out--he/she could do whatever they want. Basically when is kid is no longer a minor and could take care of himself--he could do whatever he wants. When he can't feed, cloth and shelter himself--it would be best if he follows the rules the those providing the food, clothes and shelter.
Things will no doubt be different after the Revolution, but till then--that's how things stand.
Sentinel
14th August 2008, 17:28
It's the role of parents, with the full aid of society, to teach their children the rules of social interaction and prepare them for a life as adults. This by default involves the dictating of rules at times.
However, children should never be considered the 'property' of their parents. Neither does a civilised society grant parents the right to physically abuse their children with corporal punishment etc.
Overall should society collectively monitor the well being of all children -- and not hesitate to step in if necessary, ie if there is documented abuse. At a certain, relatively early age it should be fully up to the children themselves whether they wish to have anything to do with their biological parents, and society should offer alternatives if not.
Schrödinger's Cat
14th August 2008, 22:53
Rights are going to be 'dictated' to the young regardless of the parent or community involved. No sane person is going to allow a 2 year old the right to vote, for instance. Proxy voting is the only substitute I'm aware of, but how would that work out?
PigmerikanMao
14th August 2008, 22:55
Buddahist / Buddahism
Buddhist / Buddhism ;)
Plagueround
15th August 2008, 01:59
It's the role of parents, with the full aid of society, to teach their children the rules of social interaction and prepare them for a life as adults. This by default involves the dictating of rules at times.
However, children should never be considered the 'property' of their parents. Neither does a civilised society grant parents the right to physically abuse their children with corporal punishment etc.
Overall should society collectively monitor the well being of all children -- and not hesitate to step in if necessary, ie if there is documented abuse. At a certain, relatively early age it should be fully up to the children themselves whether they wish to have anything to do with their biological parents, and society should offer alternatives if not.
Pretty much this. I've modified my parenting to be less "authoritarian" than it had been in the past. Since coming to this site and reading some of the literature on the subject I've incorporated some of the methods one can adapt to modern life.
My son has always been very bright and never a behavioral problem, but he is advancing in leaps and bounds now that I do my absolute best to treat him like an equal that I helping set up for the world instead of simply relying on the word no and acting like I am the ultimate authority. There are times, because he is only two years old, that I do have to act as an authority figure, but I find the more I approach situations objectively instead of immediately "laying down the law", the better he responds.
Its also revealed a lot about myself and the way I operate, allowing me to make positive changes in the way I interact with everyone, not just my son.
TheCultofAbeLincoln
15th August 2008, 05:53
Parents piss me off.
It is NOT the schools fault if your kid's a fatass, let alone the soda machine.
It is NOT the liberals fault your kid's smoke pot.
It is NOT the gays fault your family is falling apart at the seams.
It's YOURS you irresponsible self-absorbed ball-less motherfuckers.
Chapter 24
15th August 2008, 06:01
Parents piss me off.
It is NOT the schools fault if you're kids a fatass, let alone the soda machine.
It is NOT the liberals fault you're kids smoke pot.
It is NOT the gays fault you're family is falling apart at the seams.
It's YOURS you irresponsible self-absorbed ball-less motherfuckers.
Yes. The responsbility of parents is to show their child/ren a responsible path and prepare them for a world full of social challenges. It is parents' responsibility to teach their child/ren respectable nutrition habits; not a soulless corporation that supplies vending machines to schools.
TheCultofAbeLincoln
15th August 2008, 06:10
Yes. The responsbility of parents is to show their child/ren a responsible path and prepare them for a world full of social challenges. It is parents' responsibility to teach their child/ren respectable nutrition habits; not a soulless corporation that supplies vending machines to schools.
Thank you.
My last years in high school there weren't any Coke machine because these got scapegoated for the obesity crisis. Plus, the food served was healthy stuff which all tasted like lawn clippings.
It was extremely trivial, but it really got me thinking about how people want to blame some group for what they don't like about themselves without looking in the mirror and recognizing the root of the problem.
Knight of Cydonia
15th August 2008, 06:13
Parents piss me off.
It is NOT the schools fault if you're kids a fatass, let alone the soda machine.
It is NOT the liberals fault you're kids smoke pot.
It is NOT the gays fault you're family is falling apart at the seams.
It's YOURS you irresponsible self-absorbed ball-less motherfuckers.
hm...... i bet you want to blow your parent's head off with a shotgun don't ya?
as for the disscussion:
a child is a parents burden and responsibility, the parents should lead or show what best for their children (but not in a totalitarian or too authoritarian way). but, just like what sentinel have said that children should never be considered the 'property' of their parents, they were born free and they were free to choose which path that they'll go in the future.
Jazzratt
15th August 2008, 06:16
It is NOT the schools fault if you're kids a fatass, let alone the soda machine.
Is it the school's fault that the child has unbearably poor grammar?
More Fire for the People
15th August 2008, 06:26
Children aren't things or pets. They have a human consciousness, albeit one that is not as learned or experienced as a studious individual at the age of adulthood. From puberty to death the fundamental of the structure the brain remains unaltered (however, in old age, someone could develop dementia but even dementia has its roots in our social organization). The only difference is learning. Teenagers should have the same rights as adults and children should be able to express themselves in an open environment that is provided and protected by the older populace.
TheCultofAbeLincoln
15th August 2008, 06:46
hm...... i bet you want to blow your parent's head off with a shotgun don't ya?
No, I love my parents.
Is it the school's fault that the child has unbearably poor grammar?
No, that would be the Absolut Corporation.
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