Age discrimination

[Segadoway]

not a commonly adressed topic, but still an issue nonetheless.
what are your opinions on age discrimination?.
personally i believe that people should not assume that anyone younger than them are inferior in any way, why are there laws supporting this?

[Demogorgon]

Children are not just miniature adults.

Don't get me wrong, I am against real age discrimination which is discrimination against older people as well as against young adults. But treating kids and teenagers in an age-appropriate manner is not discrimination.

[Holden Caulfield]

to stop aexploitation, you could get a 10 year old to do loads of work for hardly any money, as they dont have much anyways and dont understand the value of their labour,

like 10 quid a day to a pre-teen and younger is a lot of money, but its not really that much in terms of what we could earn

[Luís Henrique]

not a commonly adressed topic, but still an issue nonetheless.
what are your opinions on age discrimination?.
personally i believe that people should not assume that anyone younger than them are inferior in any way, why are there laws supporting this?

What the idea is, exactly?

No more age limits for anything?

Luís Henrique

[Holden Caulfield]

kids have it too easy these days, they should all get sent down 't pit and make themselves a living!

:lol:

[Segadoway]

sorry for not being clear about this it was late when i posted lol, i meant to ay kids being paid less than adults for the same job, i have encountered it everywhere (not personally) yeah i had a few other points but they sounded smarter last nught and i also forgot them xD

[Drace]

Well kids these days are retarded :-$

[Big Red]

i have personally encountered age discrimination. a few years ago me and my freinds tried to enter a CVS and was stopped by an employee or manager or whatever (too long ago to remember) and was told that we could only go in twice at a time because we were young, thus we were stealing, we were told the cops said they could do this. a classic example of age discrimination I understand your talking about it in a labor concerning manner but thought this would raise a few questions concerning the topic

[politics student]

What the idea is, exactly?

No more age limits for anything?

Luís Henrique

My dad had a strange method of child care, my mum went out so he put on 18+ horror films.

I really hate the glares I get when I go out for meals and often are asked to pay upfront than after the meal as I am a student. (I don't tip when I feel they have discriminated me by age)

[politics student]

i have personally encountered age discrimination. a few years ago me and my freinds tried to enter a CVS and was stopped by an employee or manager or whatever (too long ago to remember) and was told that we could only go in twice at a time because we were young, thus we were stealing, we were told the cops said they could do this. a classic example of age discrimination I understand your talking about it in a labor concerning manner but thought this would raise a few questions concerning the topic

I have had a close situation where the security followed me around the store because I was young. :rolleyes:

[anarchomaniac]

I get suspicious looks in stores sometimes, just walking around. And on an unrelated topic, people assume I'm fluent in Spanish just because I'm hispanic. Sure, I know Spanish, but I taught it to myself. And having people treat me like I don't know shit about politics gets old after a while.

[RHIZOMES]

Children are not just miniature adults.

Don't get me wrong, I am against real age discrimination which is discrimination against older people as well as against young adults. But treating kids and teenagers in an age-appropriate manner is not discrimination.

^^This.

When I was younger I would've disagreed, but I think when people are of that age they're sort of blind to their own immaturity.

[politics student]

^^This.

When I was younger I would've disagreed, but I think when people are of that age they're sort of blind to their own immaturity.

more to the point some are immature same goes for the youth and adults. To label blindly that the youth are all immature is highly unfair when you have adults drinking themselves to death.

[KrazyRabidSheep]

Why did everyone automatically jump to children?

From my personal experiences, I've noticed that age discrimination affects the elderly as much or more so then children (at the very least children grow out of age discrimination; the only escape for the elderly is death.)

From casual "observations" such as driving habits, to less casual "observations" as "let's not hire her; she's too close to retirement", discrimination against the elderly is rampant.

I have a close friend who's father and uncle had decided to put their father (her grandfather) into a nursing home. They had told everybody in the family except the one they were putting in the home. Why? They "didn't want to upset him" (I think in actuality they were putting off dealing with the inevitable emotional reactions.)

He should have been the first to know, he should have been involved or at least consulted with the decision. Even if the person is confused (suffering from alzheimer's, or some other form of degenerative mental condition; this individual is forgetful, but still very mentally competent), they have a right to be told.

Did these people honestly think it would upset the old man less when he was dropped off suddenly? What was the plan? Tell Granddad that they were going out for ice cream, then ditch him at the home?

There are times and circumstances where assisted living or nursing homes are a viable or the best option for an individual, but they are still people, and should not be treated thus.

It would upset me more that decisions were made on my behalf and I was not informed promptly then knowing I would go to a nursing home.

Anyway, the decision in this story was to not put him in a nursing home, but the affected party to this day has never been informed of the decision made and then reconsidered on his behalf.

Demogorgon stated "Children are not just miniature adults."
This is true.
However, it is important to also remember that the elderly are not oversized children, either.

[mikelepore]

Hmm - our generation gap is interesting. I'm so old that I automatically interpreted the title "age discrimination" to mean the writers here were discussing how older people get hit with discrimination, and then I read the topic and found it to a group of younger people discussing how younger people being hit with discrimination. I must have forgotten what it was like to be young.

Anyway, here's a comment about the kind of discrimination against older people that I witnessed when I worked at IBM in the 1990s. The company's technical methods changed so fast that experience wasn't too important, but older workers who had gotten a number of promotions were being paid more. This gave the company the incentive to fire older workers and replace them with younger ones. It would be illegal to do that directly, so they found a loophole. Imagine you're the president of the company. First you announce that you want to shrink the business, and you lay off a thousand people. Statistically a lot of 40 and 50 year old workers will be included. Then you announce that you want to enlarge the business and hire a thousand new college graduates. You repeat that cycle several times. You can even layoff and hire simultaneously -- just say you want the shrink the operations in building 1, announce layoffs, and at the same time you say you want to enlarge the operations in building 2, an announce new hires, then transfer people however you wish among the buildings. The overall effect is the same as replacing older workers with younger ones, but you don't say that out loud -- you just tell the newspapers that management kept reversing its viewpoint about whether it should be shrinking or enlarging various departments within the business, and whatever the demographic effects may be, that wasn't the intention.

The government did nothing about it. The media reported nothing about it.

When you have to work for one company for thirty consecutive years to receive a pension after you retire, and you're already twenty-plus years into that long process when you get laid off, what are you going to do now? At the age of fifty or whatever, are you going to restart your thirty consecutive years with another company from day-one?