What sort of analysis do non-socialists use to explain things?

[GPDP]

I know we revolutionary leftists, by and large, use class analysis to examine history, and the progression of events, among other things. But what do other people use?

I know nazis and their ilk talk a lot about race, so I suppose their analysis of society (if you can call it that :laugh:) would be racially based. However, libertarians seem to eschew all talk of class or race, focusing instead on strict individuality... or something. I can never figure them out. And of course, our mainstream friends, the liberals and conservatives, don't seem to have any analysis whatsoever, other than which president would be best.

In any case, what arguments do these people put forward in rejection of class either as a driving force for struggle in society or as a concept altogether? And what do they tell us to look at instead, and why?

[Winter]

The short answer:

Democrats claim they understand class and believe the working class and poor must be represented through unions and be protected by the government...which is a total contradiction, because at the same time they want to keep the bourgeois capitalists system which is the sole root to all inequalities in the first place!

Republicans for the most part do not believe we should look at things like class, because "We are all Americans!" They focus on patriotism/nationalism to discredit any reality of class conflict, arguing that all classes are neccesary for society to function as it does. They believe that individuals make or break who they eventually become, putting everything on personal responsibility without even considering enviromental circumstances. Needless to say, they desire to keep the status quo, at least they don't lie about it like the democrats!

[StrictlyRuddie]

Libertarians examine the whole idea of to much government control as bad, There basically the original conservatives that wanted less government in there lives personally and lower taxes, They see free market capitalism as the best way to go on about economically. They want full property rights and no corporate restrictions.

[trivas7]

In any case, what arguments do these people put forward in rejection of class either as a driving force for struggle in society or as a concept altogether? And what do they tell us to look at instead, and why?
Weber and Veblen are the classical liberal sociologists. Give them a gander.

[EvigLidelse]

Libertarians examine the whole idea of to much government control as bad, There basically the original conservatives that wanted less government in there lives personally and lower taxes, They see free market capitalism as the best way to go on about economically. They want full property rights and no corporate restrictions.

That was really unnecessary..


I know we revolutionary leftists, by and large, use class analysis to examine history, and the progression of events, among other things. But what do other people use?

You're saying that you've copyrighted the term 'class'? Like we right-wings can't use that as well?
Did I misunderstand you?

[mykittyhasaboner]

That was really unnecessary..
why?




You're saying that you've copyrighted the term 'class'? Like we right-wings can't use that as well?
Did I misunderstand you?

you misunderstood, GPDP didnt say right-wingers cant use the word class, its just that most dont. i for one never heard right-wing rhetoric focusing on class, or even giving it a significant mention.

[Mindtoaster]

You're saying that you've copyrighted the term 'class'? Like we right-wings can't use that as well?
Did I misunderstand you?

Um, I probably don't understand your political beliefs.... But shouldn't you be restricted to OI if you're a right-wing libertarian? :confused:

[GPDP]

Looking at his quote, I'd say he is.