RadioRaheem84
12th August 2008, 05:46
Ok, I had a feud with a Libertarian friend of mine and I think that I discovered that the Capitalist takes credit for everything good that has come about through the struggle AGAINST capitalism.
To explain, he says that soon sweatshop workers will riot and demand for better wages which will force change, thus leading to better working standards. That supposedly is an accomplishment of how the free market "regulates" itself. "Democracy" flourishes out of EXPLOITATION. I mean everyone of his counter-arguments revolved around this logic. If a collective or a politician wants to stand up to a company, it's best to leave the company alone because it will move. This ofcourse is newspeak for, "leftist policies will hurt the worker". I just don't understand how these people think that they can weasel out of the simple logic behind Marx's expose of capitalism.
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My friend also likes to brag about how great of a nation the US is by comparing it to THIRD WORLD NATIONS. Have any other dim-wit right wingers argued this point with you? That we're better off than people in Guatamala? What a stupid point! Ofcourse a developed nation is going to be better than an undeveloped one. Yet, I never hear any of these idiots compare our nation to OTHER DEVELOPED NATIONS. This type of logic makes it seem like we could be overworked and underpayed by DEVELOPED standards, but that we should shut up because we don't live in MEXICO.
Last, I just did a tour of Latin America going from Venezuela to Chile to Brazil. I just have to say that the poor in those nations are not that far off from the poor in our slums and ghettos here in the States. The only difference is that our poor have a fighting chance to get out of it. I swear, the US reminded me a lot of the richer Latin American nations like Chile, where the poor were not really desolate like in El Salvador, but barely making ends meet. They can afford a few of the new latest gadets every now and then but for the most part they were stuck in dead end jobs going nowhere.
Why can't we just admit that at the bottom, there is a third world?
To explain, he says that soon sweatshop workers will riot and demand for better wages which will force change, thus leading to better working standards. That supposedly is an accomplishment of how the free market "regulates" itself. "Democracy" flourishes out of EXPLOITATION. I mean everyone of his counter-arguments revolved around this logic. If a collective or a politician wants to stand up to a company, it's best to leave the company alone because it will move. This ofcourse is newspeak for, "leftist policies will hurt the worker". I just don't understand how these people think that they can weasel out of the simple logic behind Marx's expose of capitalism.
Topic 2:
My friend also likes to brag about how great of a nation the US is by comparing it to THIRD WORLD NATIONS. Have any other dim-wit right wingers argued this point with you? That we're better off than people in Guatamala? What a stupid point! Ofcourse a developed nation is going to be better than an undeveloped one. Yet, I never hear any of these idiots compare our nation to OTHER DEVELOPED NATIONS. This type of logic makes it seem like we could be overworked and underpayed by DEVELOPED standards, but that we should shut up because we don't live in MEXICO.
Last, I just did a tour of Latin America going from Venezuela to Chile to Brazil. I just have to say that the poor in those nations are not that far off from the poor in our slums and ghettos here in the States. The only difference is that our poor have a fighting chance to get out of it. I swear, the US reminded me a lot of the richer Latin American nations like Chile, where the poor were not really desolate like in El Salvador, but barely making ends meet. They can afford a few of the new latest gadets every now and then but for the most part they were stuck in dead end jobs going nowhere.
Why can't we just admit that at the bottom, there is a third world?