PETA compares bus decapitation to animal slaughter

[Bear MacMillan]

http://www.nationalpost.com/story.html?id=705090

"Just a week after the gruesome decapitation death of a passenger on a Greyhound bus in rural Manitoba sent shock waves around the world, an animal-rights lobby is drawing comparisons between the victim's death and the handling of meat animals in North American slaughterhouses.

People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals submitted an ad for publication (http://blog.peta.org/archives/mani_large.php) in the Portage Daily Graphic this week that compared the murder of Tim McLean, 22, to the "needless killing" of chickens, cows and pigs in "factory farms."
"Like human victims, animals in slaughterhouses experience terror when they are attacked by a knife-wielding assailant," says PETA's Lindsay Rajt in a news release. "We are challenging everyone who is rightly horrified by this crime to look into their hearts and consider leaving violence off their dinner plates."

Vincent Li, 40, is charged with Mr. McLean's second-degree murder. A Crown prosecutor told horrified spectators in a Portage la Prairie courtroom Tuesday that Mr. Li attacked his seatmate without provocation, as the Greyhound bus made its way down the Trans Canada Highway near Portage the night of July 30, stabbing Mr. McLean as many as 40 times while 36 horrified passengers looked on.

As the driver pulled over and the passengers fled, said Crown attorney Joyce Dalmyn, Mr. Li cut off Mr. McLean's head and carried it around the empty bus.
MR. Li appeared to be taunting police officers outside the bus with the severed head, and at one point, began cutting other body parts off and was seen to consume some of them, said Ms. Dalmyn.

PETA's ad - which the Graphic has said it will not run - draws deliberate links between slaughterhouse techniques and McLean's monstrous slaying.
"Manitoba . . . an innocent young victim's throat is cut . . . His struggles and cries are ignored . . . The man with the knife shows no emotion . . . The victim is slaughtered and his head is cut off . . . His flesh is eaten . . . It's still going on!" reads the ad text.

In a news release, PETA said the ad was meant to "spur people to think about the terror and pain experienced by animals who are raised and killed for food."
"The group aims to demonstrate that animals - just like humans - are made of flesh, blood, and bone and deserve protection from needless killing. In this day and age, food choices are rich and plentiful, and a vegetarian diet helps prevent premature death from killer diseases like cancer, heart disease, high blood pressure and strokes.

"Chickens, pigs, cows, and other animals on factory farms are mutilated without any painkillers-parts of their ears, beaks, and horns are cut off. At the slaughterhouse, animals are often scalded to death and sometimes remain conscious even while they are being skinned and dismembered.""


This is a new low for PETA, almost as bad as their ad campaign compairing the meat industry to the Holocaust, and almost as stupid; there is no relation what so ever between a murder by a mentally unstable person and the meat industry that sustains most of the planet.

I think this was done purely for shock value to gain attention to their organization - that is quickly losing relevance because of moronic ad campaigns like this. It's a vicious circle.

[Jazzratt]

How the fuck does anyone support this insidious group of twisted fucks? Seriously. They do this kind of stupid shit all the time and they have an entire sub-organisation for recruiting kids. "People" like this do not deserve a place in society.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Animal liberationists regularly pull this sort of shit, comparing their movement to that of Martin Luther King or the Abolitionists, insulting them both.

I don't think it impresses anybody but themselves.

[Pablosdog]

Yeah it's pretty pathetic what they are doing with this ad campaign, using a tragedy to further their agenda is pretty low.

I personally have considered becoming a vegetarian, but not on the whims and wishes of PETA, who pushes their beliefs and in essence, makes actual vegeterians and vegans look bad.

Fuck Peta

[Jazzratt]

Does anyone want to justify this?

[Chapter 24]

As others said, this is just a usual tactic of a group full of pretentious fucks who love animals and hate humans.

[Led Zeppelin]

Was that guy in Manitoba really decapitated on a bus?

That's fucked up.

PETA's bullshit makes it even more fucked up.

[bretty]

Does anyone want to justify this?

Who in their right mind would? They don't deny the fact they were intentionally using it to invoke a reaction. There's nothing to justify.

[Incendiarism]

Not as bad as comparing the holocaust to chickens being killed.

[Jazzratt]

Not as bad as comparing the holocaust to chickens being killed.

My personal favourite was the slavery/lynching comparisons. Those were classy.

[Magdalen]

Nutcases, utter nutcases.

Are any of the comrades here familiar with an incident which happened in England a few years ago, in which animal rights activists stole the body of a leading scientist's dead mother from a churchyard?

[Jazzratt]

Are any of the comrades here familiar with an incident which happened in England a few years ago, in which animal rights activists stole the body of a leading scientist's dead mother from a churchyard?

I think I heard a little about that but I'm sketchy on the details (names and places).

[eatbullets]

Wow, This is a new low for PETA, they need to stop being such extremists. There is a major difference between a man getting his head hacked off on a bus, and an animal, raised to be killed for our nutrition.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Wow, This is a new low for PETA, they need to stop being such extremists.

Now now, there's nothing wrong with extremism in of itself - my position on slavery is extremist for example - it should be completely and utterly eliminated.

No, the fault with PETA lies not with extremism but with being a bunch of muddle-headed idiots with a Disneyfied view of nature.


There is a major difference between a man getting his head hacked off on a bus, and an animal, raised to be killed for our nutrition.

Indeed. One is a murder, the other is lunch.

[eatbullets]

Now now, there's nothing wrong with extremism in of itself - my position on slavery is extremist for example - it should be completely and utterly eliminated.


I think i worded that wrong, because I have a lot of extremist views as well (such as slavery as you said above).

They just need to cool down, and eat a chicken (haha)

[Raúl Duke]

Their ads are stupid, whether it's the holocaust/slavery/head decapitation or the ones I saw in a magazine (which, basically, uses an appeal to popularity by showing celebrities like Paul Mcartney. Why should I give a fuck about Paul and his eating habits, why should I imitate him?!?)

[mykittyhasaboner]

While im not particularly fond of animal slaughter, at least its for use, for bot humans and other meat eating animals.

the guy was murdered, he was killed (and "consumed") out of insanity. i think PETA needs to reevaluate the "why" of the murder, and realize that they have made a big mistake with this ad. If you ask me, this is equivalent (if not worse) than those pro-life pictures of aborted fetuses.

bottom line, capitalizing on a murder isnt good, no matter what your doing it for.

[thejambo1]

peta are a shower of fucks, pure and simple. this is just another example of how these people have nothing to share or give to us. they are not nor ever will be class activists,they have nothing in common with us.

[chimx]

I love peta

[al8]

Wow, This is a new low for PETA, they need to stop being such extremists. There is a major difference between a man getting his head hacked off on a bus, and an animal, raised to be killed for our nutrition.

To be fair there is nothing wrong about being an extremist. It's just their opinions that are wrong. Given their beliefs this is a valid comparison.


Edit; Sorry, I later saw that your post was all ready responded to.

[jaiden]

thats absurd, yeah indeed they hate humans and care much more about a slaughtered group of chickens than the guy who was decapitated. what the hell? i cant imagine why ANYONE would support them

[Vanguard1917]

PETA is basically a club for attention-seeking celebrities who molest animals.*


* If you're someone like me who sees things like animal testing and factory farms as pretty incredible human innovations, then hopefully you'll excuse my slightly unfair characterisation of PETA supporters. Not all PETA supporters are celebrities. :D

[AutomaticMan]

Whilst I detest PETA, and I'm continually amazed by the depth of their depravity and how they operate in complete ignorance to other social justice campaigns that they should align with (even frequently working against movements to end sexism, racism etc), I'm also equally amazed how people who care so much about humans and their rights can't even consider the notion that other sentient beings also have rights.

I'm sure PETA are at least partly to blame for this.

[Dystisis]

Whilst I detest PETA, and I'm continually amazed by the depth of their depravity and how they operate in complete ignorance to other social justice campaigns that they should align with (even frequently working against movements to end sexism, racism etc), I'm also equally amazed how people who care so much about humans and their rights can't even consider the notion that other sentient beings also have rights.
Yeah, sure animals aside from humans do have rights as well. And they should have. There are many reasons for this, biological for example. Most animals respond to pain like humans do, although they communicate it differently, etc. Therefore it should be a goal to not have needles pain come to them.

What PETA does, however... I think it has been said quite nicely, it profits on a "disney view" of how animals exist that does not coincide with reality.

I might be mistaken but my image of PETA (and similar organizations') members are of upper middle-class youth needing something to fight for, although not being smart enough to fight for something real.

[AutomaticMan]

Yeah, sure animals aside from humans do have rights as well. And they should have. There are many reasons for this, biological for example. Most animals respond to pain like humans do, although they communicate it differently, etc. Therefore it should be a goal to not have needles pain come to them.

What PETA does, however... I think it has been said quite nicely, it profits on a "disney view" of how animals exist that does not coincide with reality.

I might be mistaken but my image of PETA (and similar organizations') members are of upper middle-class youth needing something to fight for, although not being smart enough to fight for something real.

As an animal rightist (and a feminist), I abhor most of PETA's campaigns. It's true that they profit of something, which, for a social justice group* is unacceptable on its own. And, you know, they support BSL, CAK, Temple Grandin etc. Most of all, I just cringe when people associate all vegans and antispeciesists with PETA, and their frequently welfarist, misogynistic, badly thought out campaigns, and public shenanigans.

*I'm not saying they are a social justice group, but, considering they masquerade as an animal rights group ('the' animal rights group), it's what they pretend to be, and maybe once were.

[chimx]

I think that there is a general misunderstanding of the purpose of PETA. Their primary goal is to gain media attention for animal welfare issues by making absurd claims that are controversial, or doing other controversial shit.

Remember their "got beer?" campaign that got MADD all up in arms? That shit was hilarious, and also a stroke of genius. They are simply brilliant at exploiting the American media, period.

[bretty]

I think that there is a general misunderstanding of the purpose of PETA. Their primary goal is to gain media attention for animal welfare issues by making absurd claims that are controversial, or doing other controversial shit.

Remember their "got beer?" campaign that got MADD all up in arms? That shit was hilarious, and also a stroke of genius. They are simply brilliant at exploiting the American media, period.

It'd be a fine point if they explained themselves that way. But they don't, they don't make that point clear along with their controversial messages.

[Jazzratt]

I think that there is a general misunderstanding of the purpose of PETA. Their primary goal is to gain media attention for animal welfare issues by making absurd claims that are controversial, or doing other controversial shit.

Remember their "got beer?" campaign that got MADD all up in arms? That shit was hilarious, and also a stroke of genius. They are simply brilliant at exploiting the American media, period.

So they're the biggest group of annoying shit-stirrers in the world? Using asinine shock tactics isn't winning much for their cause and it tends to lend ammunition to those that don't support their aims. Is their psuedoscience about how absolutely awful animal products (including milk, lol) are also part of their grand scheme of annoying everyone with a quarter-inch of brain?

[welshboy]

Nutcases, utter nutcases.

Are any of the comrades here familiar with an incident which happened in England a few years ago, in which animal rights activists stole the body of a leading scientist's dead mother from a churchyard?

It wasn't a leading scientist, or any scientist. It was the grandmother of a guy who ran a factory farm breeding guinea pigs for vivisection. They really are their own worst enemies that lot.

From Indymedia UK


A Mexican-wave style collapse of bullfight stadium!
(http://indymedia.org.uk/en/regions/world/)

SchNews 641 : Over eighty blood-thirsty maniacs got all the blood they could wish for in Columbia recently. Unfortunately for them, it was their own.

Bull-fighting fanatics got a taste of their own medicine when their seating gave way at the local bullring in the town of Planadas.
http://indymedia.org.uk/img/video_big.gif Video (short clip) - application/x-shockwave-flash 1.7M (http://indymedia.org.uk/media/2008/08//406776.flv)


Footage of the event (which, to be frank, is far more entertaining than watching a bull being gored to death), shows a mexican-wave style collapsing of the stadium just as a bull enters the ring. Panic breaks out as the playing field gets levelled and the matador desperately tries to distract the bull from the crowd.



Proper scum.

[chimx]

So they're the biggest group of annoying shit-stirrers in the world? Using asinine shock tactics isn't winning much for their cause

Basically yes, because having controversial media topics about animal welfare issues is better than having no topics at all. It keeps the ideas alive in the media, even if their arguments are easily disputed, and keeping the idea alive is what's important.

[AutomaticMan]

Proper scum.

Are you talking about the zoosadists and their twisted ways, or those that abhor the oppression of nonhuman animals?