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redarmyfaction38
4th August 2008, 23:00
the truth is, if all the technology available today was implemented and run in the interests of the majority, if everyone who was capable of work made an equal contribution, none of us would have to work more than 16 hours a week for all of us to have the necessities of life.
only a communist society could deliver this.
after providing for the above, what do think, you're average human being would do?
do you think there would be room for personal material ambition?
do you imagine free markets where individuals or co operatives trade luxury goods they made in their free time? or trade the surplice goods from their own endeavours?
do you see a return to "primitive" communism where people take what they need and leave the rest for the next group of people?
i'm one of those "communists" that actually believe that once peoples material needs are satisfied, people will truly be able to satisfy/explore their spiritual and material wants.
religion would not be a matter of conflict but a matter to be explored, material satisfaction would be a question of choice rather than corporate brainwashing etc.
another random thought, do you think, humanity, would want to work "extra" in order to fulfill the "star trek" dream of populating the universe. "going where no one hs gone before etc."?

Norseman
4th August 2008, 23:32
Well, I know I'd like to spend most of my free time developing robots and AI. My guess is that a few hundred years after the transition to communism, people would no longer be doing any physical labor, and the moon, Mars, and Venus would be getting terraformed by robots and prepared for human colonies. Empty worlds have nearly limitless amounts of land and resources available for immigrants, unlike Earth, so I think overpopulation would drive people away from Earth. Those colonies would likely grow to encompass their entire planets, and then colonists would start leaving them too.

KrazyRabidSheep
5th August 2008, 06:37
the truth is, if all the technology available today was implemented and run in the interests of the majority, if everyone who was capable of work made an equal contribution, none of us would have to work more than 16 hours a week for all of us to have the necessities of life.I do not doubt this, but would you mind explaining where this number comes from? Furthermore, what is and isn't a "necessity of life"?


after providing for the above, what do think, you're average human being would do?
I think it likely that many would chose to work much more then 16 hours per week. After a few months of working only 16 hours a week, I would want to work more; I enjoy my job, and in a communist society, everybody would be given an unprecedented chance to find a job they love.

With the rest of the free time, I see people with more time to spend with friends and family resulting in a closer-knit and more familiar community.

I also see people spending more time creating art and cultural contributions, which in turn would be enjoyed in social settings (such as museums, music halls, cinemas, and in the streets.)

redarmyfaction38
5th August 2008, 23:30
I do not doubt this, but would you mind explaining where this number comes from? Furthermore, what is and isn't a "necessity of life"?


I think it likely that many would chose to work much more then 16 hours per week. After a few months of working only 16 hours a week, I would want to work more; I enjoy my job, and in a communist society, everybody would be given an unprecedented chance to find a job they love.

With the rest of the free time, I see people with more time to spend with friends and family resulting in a closer-knit and more familiar community.

I also see people spending more time creating art and cultural contributions, which in turn would be enjoyed in social settings (such as museums, music halls, cinemas, and in the streets.)
the 16 hours a week bit comes from a speech jack jones made, based on labour research material, to the tuc conference in 1968!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"necessity of life", at the moment, given the unequal development of the worlds nations, depends on where you live.
i would say, the basic necessities of life are food, shelter, education, heath care and inclusion in local society.