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Liberty Lover
18th February 2003, 06:55
France and Germany might not be part of the 'Axis of Evil', but they are in the 'Axis of Weasels'.

I was surprised by Jacques Chirac's statement that "We must do everything possible to prevent war". Everything, eh? Does that include do nothing in the face of deliberate provocation? Does that include surrender? M. Chirac should remember that in the 1930's France did everything possible to prevent war with Hitler, and look at the wonderful results that that produced!
Viva Petain!

Of course, the real reason Germany, Russia and France are so opposed to war is their commercial interests in Iraq. They have been trading with Saddam for years, and have made a tidy little profit out if it. A new, democratic Government would mean they would have to bribe a whole new generation of officials! I have always found that when a country imputes bad motives to US actions, they are, in fact, merely a reflection of the real interests of the accusing country.

abstractmentality
18th February 2003, 07:18
"I was surprised by Jacques Chirac's statement that "We must do everything possible to prevent war". Everything, eh? Does that include do nothing in the face of deliberate provocation?"

I was just wondering when Iraq, recently, has been "provocing" war of some sort. as far as i have been able to see, they have been trying to NOT get into a war. Blix' reports have been so ambiguous that they can be used from either the pro-war or anti-war side.

"A new, democratic Government would mean they would have to bribe a whole new generation of officials!"

LOL. a democratic government, installed by the US, in Iraq? now that is funny. The vast majority of people in Iraq are Shi'ite Muslim. Shi'ite muslims run Iran. Right now, Iran is very anti-american, for the most part, and do you really think that the US is going to allow Iraq to follow in the footsteps of Iran? i dont think so. Next largest group of people are the Kurds. But, since the US is dreaming of attacking Iraq from Turkey, then Turkey is going to need to get something out of that deal. and since Turkey has been attacking the kurdish population of northern Iraq for some time now, i dont really think Turkey is going to allow for the Kurds to come to power. now, what does that leave left? a small minority of Sunni muslims. Saddam is a sunni. so, in the end, you have a minority party running Iraq, just as you do now. wow, that was a nice democracy, dont you think?

Pete
18th February 2003, 15:49
"? M. Chirac should remember that in the 1930's France did everything possible to prevent war with Hitler, and look at the wonderful results that that produced!
Viva Petain! "

Yes so France is now trying to halt the current day warmonger, America. In the 1930's it was Germany, now it is the United States. America is pushing for new commerical and territorial gains. Germany did the same. The world stood up to block the growing Third Riech to late and caused a massive war. I'm afraid it is too late to stop America, and I hope that humanity survives through the war America is going to begin by destroying the United Nations. If their is war in Iraq the UN is destoryed. It will mean that the world is afraid of the modern day Thrid Riech, or that America does not feel it has to listen to binding rulings of the UN. Peace will bring salvation, war will bring hell. Stop your warmongering and think.

"Of course, the real reason Germany, Russia and France are so opposed to war is their commercial interests in Iraq. They have been trading with Saddam for years, and have made a tidy little profit out if it. A new, democratic Government would mean they would have to bribe a whole new generation of officials! I have always found that when a country imputes bad motives to US actions, they are, in fact, merely a reflection of the real interests of the accusing country. "

And America does not want to have to bribe those officals to get a huge cut in the new government, so whats a better way then allowing the revolutions in the early 1990's fail and then a decade later impose your own puppet regime?

Yours in Peacemongering,
Pete

thursday night
18th February 2003, 17:30
"A new, democratic Government"

Yes, because the United States of America has such a wonderful track record when it comes to the installation of democratic governments. Please, do I really have to list all the interventions that the war machine has pulled off leading to thousands of innocents killed in the name of anti-communism? I think you should read William Blum's classic book 'Killing Hope.'

LOIC
18th February 2003, 21:00
"I was surprised by Jacques Chirac's statement that "We must do everything possible to prevent war". Everything, eh? Does that include do nothing in the face of deliberate provocation? Does that include surrender? M. Chirac should remember that in the 1930's France did everything possible to prevent war with Hitler, and look at the wonderful results that that produced!
Viva Petain! "

To compare germany in the 1930's and iraq in 2003 is a very stupid thing.
You should read a history book(or shut up).

"Of course, the real reason Germany, Russia and France are so opposed to war is their commercial interests in Iraq. "

And that's exactly why bush wants to attack irak.

Guardia Bolivariano
18th February 2003, 21:19
Quote: from LOIC on 9:00 pm on Feb. 18, 2003You should read a history book(or shut up).




I think he should do both!

Xvall
19th February 2003, 00:01
Why does everyone hold the surrender of the French against them nowadays? Aside from the fact that that took place nearly a century ago; few if any people who lived in that era are alive today. You seem to think that the french owe you something for their 'cowardly acts' back then. This would mean that you are in support of reperations. Are you in support of reperations?

Pete
19th February 2003, 00:40
Drake, who spoke of the French surrender?