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[Hegemonicretribution]

My politics tutor was having a discussion with me on Thursday about Iraq. He is also against the war, but when I said I placed no more trust in Hussein with these weapons than Bush He said that it is harder for Bush to use them. He claimed that because America is "deomcratic" there are processes in place and Iraq can use them at will.

I have always maintained that America amongst other countries are not democratic. However there seems to be little point in even elections when the government has the right to overlook the view of the majority. Here in Britain even if the government put it to referendum whether or not it should go to war (which from all polls so far it would lose) it could say very nice and go ahead.

[Spiteful]

A teacher/tutor is never supposed to give their opinion as a teaching tool.

[RedCeltic]

Quote: from Spiteful on 10:45 am on Feb. 16, 2003
A teacher/tutor is never supposed to give their opinion as a teaching tool.

That's only in the American public school system.

[Spiteful]

Quote: from RedCeltic on 9:01 am on Feb. 16, 2003

Quote: from Spiteful on 10:45 am on Feb. 16, 2003
A teacher/tutor is never supposed to give their opinion as a teaching tool.

That's only in the American public school system.

I know. The student may become offended and sue the teacher.

[Spiteful]

I'm only kidding with my last post. Teachers don't give their opinions because American students are allowed to come up with their own thoughts and ideas.

[timbaly]

I wouldn't say that my history teachers always gave their opinions on pre- 1940's history. My teacher would always give a strong opinion on the holocaust, but I think he should've. He also never spoke of ANY CIA wrong doings suring the cold war and when my friend brought them up he would always say the enemy of my enemy is my friend and present no further argument. He would claim that the lesson must go on without sidetracks. To him the cirriculum was more important than the debate. But it isn't his fault it's the model of the school system which is memorize things for tests. Understanding and formulating an opinion are far from the systems concern.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

In American public schools, teachesr are not allowed to use their personal oppinions, yet most do. Students cannot sue their teacher beacause the teacher's union is too powerful. And most students in America don't give a rat's ass what the hell happens in the world as long as their playstation is home waiting for them once they arrive from school.

[Spiteful]

Quote: from Victorcommie on 12:20 pm on Feb. 16, 2003
In American public schools, teachesr are not allowed to use their personal oppinions, yet most do.

Great generalization there. I bet you've only had about 30 teachers in your lifetime (in highschool, you get about 6 or 7 per year.)

[Spiteful]

Quote: from timbaly on 12:16 pm on Feb. 16, 2003
To him the cirriculum was more important than the debate. But it isn't his fault it's the model of the school system which is memorize things for tests. Understanding and formulating an opinion are far from the systems concern.


Memorization is important. How is formulating an opinion important when someone is a brew maker? Under your communist system, some college graduates will be fruit pickers.

[Smoking Frog II]

sexus cum nothus.

[smith196]

The USA and the UK are democratic countries. People elect MP's to represent their intrests in Parliment. This is representative democracy. It is not the pure form of democary but the only one that can work in a large society. Direct democracy is only suitable for small or primitatve societys.

The Government doesn't need to give a referendum on Iraq. By electing Labour into power we have said that we support Labour's policies and thus the war on Iraq. If you don't want to go to war with Iraq you should never have elected labour in the first place because by doing so you have guiven them license to invade.

[Hegemonicretribution]

I am not American or British, I live in the Isle of Man here we have our own government Currency etc, even though there is only about 75000 population. However being only miles from mainland U.K. we are closely linked.

"The USA and the UK are democratic countries. People elect MP's to represent their intrests in Parliment. This is representative democracy. It is not the pure form of democary but the only one that can work in a large society. Direct democracy is only suitable for small or primitatve societys.

The Government doesn't need to give a referendum on Iraq. By electing Labour into power we have said that we support Labour's policies and thus the war on Iraq. If you don't want to go to war with Iraq you should never have elected labour in the first place because by doing so you have guiven them license to invade."
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I didn't vote for labour, our vote is for our government, who by the way are opposed to it, and I am aware of representitive democracy, I was merely pointing out the pointlessness of it when you choose them and they ignore the nation's views.

The tutor was not teaching, it was a discussion outside of lessons, I have them frequently with tutors. I learn more from talking to people and from their oppinions, and books, than I ever would from the cirriculum. Colouring outside the edges may not always help you, but when I did my final exams I wiped the floor with my year, in the subjects I chose to study at college.