Homosexuality - A post from a different forum

[Politrickian]

"Mammals are not ment to breed by having sex with the same gender. In order to go against the ways that nature has ment it to be one has to have a damaged brain. People with damaged brains such as Child abusers, rapists, murderers, Mike Tyson's and commies ;P are called to be "metally ill". Their state are in many cases described as a "metal illnes or disorder". And to be homosexual you must have a defect brain (pardon my french). And as I said, people with a damaged brain is called mentally ill.
Mentally ill people should not be allowed to adopt children.

Then you can look at it from a childs point of view. He would be picked on, casted aside and beaten. His childhood would not be a good one. Say what you like, but children can be very cruel against eachothers.
Then he would be raised by the gay couple and grow up to be gay. Because they would raise him in their way using their standards and he would learn as very young that it should be male+male and female+female. You can argue all you will against this, but the fact stands that a child looks up to its "parents" and what they do is, in his eyes, the right thing to do. That is wrong. They would cause the child to get mentally ill aswell. You can compare it to many of the people who has become mentally ill from war, abused as child etc. you don't have to be born with a defect brain to become mentally ill.

I'm sorry If I by this post have offended anyone, If I have I didn't meen to, but this is my view on homosexuallity and it stands."

[Moskitto]

Mammals are not ment to breed by having sex with the same gender

the fact is they do have sex with the same gender, it has been exhibited in a huge range of species, dogs, cats, dolphins to name a few.

And to be homosexual you must have a defect brain

this is like me saying "cheese is evil", I have given nothing to justify this view.

deriding people with different sexual preferences as having mental disorders is a dangerous road to go down, you might as well put people who like small breasts into asylums.

By implying it is a mental disorder you imply it is a physical problem, I will go back to this point later.

he would learn as very young that it should be male+male and female+female

almost 100% of homosexuals grow up with heterosexual parents, it has nothing to do with the parents, infact if the child will resent his childhood, they will hate their parents and everything that is their parents.

but the fact stands that a child looks up to its "parents" and what they do is, in his eyes, the right thing to do

that would be why one of my friends hates their parents.

you don't have to be born with a defect brain to become mentally ill

so where do you think homosexuality came from in the first place. if it's a brain disorder caused by homosexual parents?

[Sirion]

Hmm... you mean commies are "mentally ill"?
Why would you spend time discussing with mentally ill people (or more specific, people with brain damage. The latter one cannot usually be repaired)?

My opinion is that homosexuals should not be set aside in society as they are today. I belive that homosexuality is something you are born wth, and not something your enviroment gives you. On the other hand, allowing homosexuals to adopt would sent out ignals that IT IS OK to be a homosexual, which is needed in todays society.

Also, while this is not yet tested, it should be easy to see for everyon that your views on how a childhood for a child with homosexual parents would be. Why would he be picked on, beaten up and casted asside, more than any other child? Children can be cruel to each other, yes, but therefore, it is very important that we DO allow homosexual adoptions, because, as I said, this would undoubtly create more openess about the subject in society.

I will always find it strange how cappies belive they always are the most humane group of everyone (especially the lazzes-faire ones), but still argues with such oppressive thoughts.

(Edited by Sirion at 9:26 pm on Feb. 10, 2003)

[Anonymous]

One of the strangest things that i ever read was that homosexuality was hereditary. Can anyone else see the obvious flaw in this suggestion?

[Moskitto]

if it's a recessive allele it is possible

[Anonymous]

I've heard that homosexuals have an enlarged Suprachiasmatic Nucleus, which is part of the Hypothalamus. It supposedly becomes enlarged due to stress conditions endured by the fetus during gestation.

[Anonymous]

Quote: from Moskitto on 2:43 am on Feb. 11, 2003
if it's a recessive allele it is possible


What about bisexuality?

[Larissa]

"...and commies ;P are called to be "metally ill"..."

Just wondering who is actually mentally ill...

People are free to choose their sexual orientation. Hetero, Homo, Bisexuality, etc.

Of course, people who are definitely NOT mentally ill will not accept child abuse, rape, sexual violence, etc.

But, only the "mentally ill" can have such a brain damage to state such nonsense norrow-minded commnents like "And to be homosexual you must have a defect brain..."

Well, I can recommend you a great psychiatrist, Politrickian.

[RedFW]

Then you can look at it from a childs point of view. He would be picked on, casted aside and beaten. His childhood would not be a good one. Say what you like, but children can be very cruel against eachothers.
Then he would be raised by the gay couple and grow up to be gay. Because they would raise him in their way using their standards and he would learn as very young that it should be male+male and female+female. You can argue all you will against this, but the fact stands that a child looks up to its "parents" and what they do is, in his eyes, the right thing to do. That is wrong. They would cause the child to get mentally ill aswell. You can compare it to many of the people who has become mentally ill from war, abused as child etc. you don't have to be born with a defect brain to become mentally ill.

And this ignores the fact that there already are gay parents who have children from straight relationships. There are lots of straight acting people who have children. Surely if homosexuality were a mental illness then these children would be affected whether their parents were straight acting or openly gay?

I would also like to know how exactly homosexuality is supposed to cause mental-illness in children, unless whoever wrote this was falling back on the old homosexuality=peadophilia?

[Beccie]

This thread is not worthy of the space it is taking on Che-lives.

Gay, Bi or straight we are all human worthy of dignity and respect. If a person chooses to be homosexual then you should respect that choice. Why shouldn't a homosexual couple be aloud to have a child? Are the morals of gay people different to the rest of us? Do you think they are going to abuse their children?

It is not morally wrong to be gay. Gay people should have the same rights as the rest of us.

[Larissa]

Quote: from Commie01 on 7:36 am on Feb. 11, 2003
This thread is not worthy of the space it is taking on Che-lives.

Gay, Bi or straight we are all human worthy of dignity and respect. If a person chooses to be homosexual then you should respect that choice. Why shouldn't a homosexual couple be aloud to have a child? Are the morals of gay people different to the rest of us? Do you think they are going to abuse their children?

It is not morally wrong to be gay. Gay people should have the same rights as the rest of us.
Gay people (in my country, at least) have the same "legal" rights as everyone else.

I agree with you. We are all human beings and despite our sexual orientation (which we freely choose) we all deserve respect and dignty.

[Non-Sectarian Bastard!]

Why are those persons so interrested where someone puts his dick in? Do they like dicks? If they don't hurt someone, what's their problem?

[Rastafari]

What about bisexuality?
If moskitto is right, than this would be codominance.
I think that it is someone's own right and I have no reason to care either way. There are a lot worse things that heterosexuals do on average than homosexuals, so pointing the finger at someone else on the time is bullshit.

[Just Joe]

my opinion on homosexuality is that i don't agree with it. but its not for me to tell anyone how to live a life that doesn't directly hurt anyone else.

[Moskitto]

Quote: from Dark Capitalist on 9:50 pm on Feb. 10, 2003

Quote: from Moskitto on 2:43 am on Feb. 11, 2003
if it's a recessive allele it is possible


What about bisexuality?


different allele?

(I was about to write codominance, but i realised a problem with this, since all homosexuals would have bisexual or homosexual parents, but they do not)

i don't think genetic homosexuality is likely though. maybe spontaneous mutation, not hereditory, unless it's like phorea or the type of colourblindness i've got which can skip a number of generations, DCs explaination is more likely.

[Politrickian]

Well, I can recommend you a great psychiatrist, Politrickian.


Doh, don't you people ever read what is said below the title?

"A post from another forum"

Meaning that I did not write it.

[Larissa]

Quote: from Politrickian on 3:09 pm on Feb. 11, 2003


Well, I can recommend you a great psychiatrist, Politrickian.


Doh, don't you people ever read what is said below the title?

"A post from another forum"

Meaning that I did not write it.

I APOLOGIZEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So sorry, really!!! I have not read that!!!

:shocked:

[Moskitto]

when i said you i didn't mean specifically you, i meant the general sort of homophobic idiot.

[Guest1]

Well, that clears things up and brings the total of homophobic posts in this thread posted by che-lives members down to zero :)

[Beccie]

Gay people (in my country, at least) have the same "legal" rights as everyone else.

I agree with you. We are all human beings and despite our sexual orientation (which we freely choose) we all deserve respect and dignty.


I'm glad to here that Larissa. In my fucked up country only one state (tassie) recognises homosexual marriages.

[mentalbunny]

Education is the key. We say kids will always be averse to other kids with homosexual parents, etc, but I don't believe this is the case.

While my mum was doing her teacher training, she was working in a comprehensive school near where we live and there was one girl who was going to have a sex change. Before you can have the operation you have to have a year of counselling and also dress and consider yourself one of the sex you wish to become. All the people in this girl's lessons were told what was happening and why and they all saw things from this girl's point of view and knew everything that was going on, so when she finally came into school as a boy these people could defend her against other, ignorant people and could explain things to them. It worked really well and my mum was really impressed with the whole thing, especially as my sister had just gone through the same process, but she was previously a man.

You see, if the parents of the other kids teach them that homosexuality is ok there will be no bullying, but saying homosexuality is ok is not the same as promoting it as parents should stress that the most important thing is to be yourself, it's ok to explore, it's ok to know exactly where you stand and what you are, just remember that your parents love you unconditionally. That is the most important thing a parent can do.

[Invader Zim]

Quote: from Moskitto on 9:19 pm on Feb. 10, 2003


this is like me saying "cheese is evil", I have given nothing to justify this view.

but the fact stands that a child looks up to its "parents" and what they do is, in his eyes, the right thing to do

that would be why one of my friends hates their parents.



"this is like me saying "cheese is evil", I have given nothing to justify this view."

there is no need to justify this, its true. CHEESE IS EVIL ;)

"that would be why one of my friends hates their parents."

This would not be a reference to me would it?


(Edited by AK47 at 10:13 pm on Feb. 13, 2003)

[Moskitto]

Quote: from AK47 on 10:11 pm on Feb. 13, 2003

Quote: from Moskitto on 9:19 pm on Feb. 10, 2003


this is like me saying "cheese is evil", I have given nothing to justify this view.

but the fact stands that a child looks up to its "parents" and what they do is, in his eyes, the right thing to do

that would be why one of my friends hates their parents.



"this is like me saying "cheese is evil", I have given nothing to justify this view."

there is no need to justify this, its true. CHEESE IS EVIL ;)

"that would be why one of my friends hates their parents."

This would not be a reference to me would it?


(Edited by AK47 at 10:13 pm on Feb. 13, 2003)


someone else, won't say who.

[Invader Zim]

But the Cheese is Evil???

[Moskitto]

Quote: from AK47 on 6:30 pm on Feb. 14, 2003
But the Cheese is Evil???

"EWWWW, IT'S A PIECE OF POO"

[Totalitarian]

If its in the privacy of your own room between consenting...etc. etc.

[Spartacus2002]

i dont personally agree with homosexaulity but people have the right ot do whatever they want no matter how sick i think it is. i dont believe people should persecute them either i just dont like it myself.