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spartan
26th July 2008, 04:25
What are your opinions of Thomas Paine?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Paine

He was an advocate for Republicanism and Liberalism, whilst dismissing monarchy and viewing all governments as, at best, a necessary evil.

He opposed slavery and was one of the earliest proponents of universal, free public education and a guaranteed minimum income! (remember this is in the late 18th century).

He was a true radical back when it actually meant something.
Die Neue Zeit
26th July 2008, 04:31
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Dr Mindbender
26th July 2008, 13:59
he even gets a mention in the lyrics of 'renegades' by rage against the machine.

:D
More Fire for the People
26th July 2008, 16:18
He also supported women's suffrage and animal rights.
Die Neue Zeit
26th July 2008, 16:20
he even gets a mention in the lyrics of 'renegades' by rage against the machine.

:D

Are you replying to MY post above and trying to link Thomas Paine to the "renegade" Kautsky? :confused: :lol:
GPDP
26th July 2008, 20:35
Not quite a socialist, of course, but for his time, he was as progressive as they got.
Dr Mindbender
26th July 2008, 20:46
Are you replying to MY post above and trying to link Thomas Paine to the "renegade" Kautsky? :confused: :lol:

go to 0.33 :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9z4NKVHX8yI
Trystan
27th July 2008, 23:18
Very good man. An honest man who, when it comes to politics, deserves to be remembered as a great purveyor of liberty. If I remember rightly, he was critical of the American regime as it abandoned the principles Paine fought for. I think that if he were around in the 20th century, he would have most certainly been a communist/socialist.
Hit The North
27th July 2008, 23:37
The Che Guevara of the revolutionary bourgeoisie.