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Pogue
25th July 2008, 00:23
"A single nonrevolutionary weekend is infinitely more bloody than a month of total revolution."

So claimed an anonymous French student during the May 68 uprisings.

Do comrades feel this is a valid justification for revolution, that, athlough it may be violent, capitalism is more violent, so there is our justification?

Also, there's a Che Guevara quote, along the lines of: A violent insurrection is only justifiable when all peaceful means fo seizing power have been crushed. By this, did Comrade Che mean that we should try reformism before the Guerilla war/Revolution, or that we should try peaceful means for revolution (like an Anarcho-Syndicalist strike).

Discuss :)

Yehuda Stern
25th July 2008, 00:41
I don't think that Marxism justifies revolution because its less bloody than capitalism, but because it's historically progressive. People living in a revolutionary state can easily be worse off than the masses in an imperialist state at some given point. But a victorious revolution will ensure the future of mankind.


A violent insurrection is only justifiable when all peaceful means fo seizing power have been crushed. By this, did Comrade Che mean that we should try reformism before the Guerilla war/Revolution,

"Comrade" Che did mean just that. Che was a radical democrat, and maybe even less than that. In any case, he believed in a political democratic revolution, not a proletarian revolution - exactly what was achieved in Cuba.

Pogue
25th July 2008, 00:47
But Che was a man of socialism, and ultimately socialism. And whats this historical stuff? I'm in the Socialist Movement because I want to end the suffering of the exploited peoples worldwide, and create a brigther future.

trivas7
25th July 2008, 00:50
Despite what John Stuart Mills would have you believe, there is no social calculus of happiness.

Pogue
25th July 2008, 00:53
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