What Is To Be Done?

[Pogue]

What are we socialists meant to do now? What is our goal? Revolutionary feeling does not seem to be growing, and capitalism seems as powerful as ever. Apathy is rife. Consumerism has proven to be a more fromdiable opponent in the "opium of the masses" department than religion ever was.
Fascism still exists, and looks set to gain power (by which I mean Nazi parties like the BNP are getting more electoral support.)

What do we do?

[Labor Shall Rule]

Right now, we are (the American Left) on the defensive.

The task is to build revolutionary organizations that are capable of establishing "partisan bases" in popular mass movements, and that are able to bring them to the correct political orientation - a conclusion that the central obstacle to a 'better world' is the racist, sexist, imperialist-capitalist system that stands over us.

I'd imagine that until a third party (that is a true, viable alternative) appears in the theater of US politics, the sin of spin that the Democratic Party has would break.

[danyboy27]

well, i have a couple of idea, but i dont know if its workable.

perhaps its not the right place to talk about it.

[BIG BROTHER]

Well to start I don't think capitalism is as strong as ever, its strongest point was I would say somewhere after WWII.

[OI OI OI]

What are you doing for this OP? Are you in any organization ? Are you trying in an "off-line" way to do something? (this is not an attack it is a question)


What are we socialists meant to do now?

What we always do. Work with our respective parties/organizations towards building the subjective factor for a socialist revolution. The revolutionary party.
We have no jurisdiction on the objective conditions. For those capitalism is responsible and it seems that it is doing a great job prepairing them for us. We shall not interfere as capitalism knows better than anyone when it comes to prepairing the conditions for revolution!:lol:




What is our goal?
A revolution and then building socialism


Revolutionary feeling does not seem to be growing, and capitalism seems as powerful as ever.

Are we talking about planet earth? Comrade I think that you are pretty isolated fromt he real world. There is a revolutionary ferment in Venezuela and the whole of South America. Pakistan is on the eve of revolution. Europe has entered a pre-revolutionary period with a shifting of reformist parties to the left (although stil being reformist) and the rise of revolutionary left while the conciousness of the working class is growing by eaps and bounds. Unfortunately North America due to uneven development lagged behind but in the future will catch up with the whole situation.
Also remember that the conciousness of the masses lags behind events . It does not grow linnear but with leaps and bounds under certain conditions and not at all in other conditions. Also anger accumulates and explodes as if in a volcano and thats why we have revolution and not evolution . A failure to see this can be attributed to a lack of revolutionary education (thats why I asked if you were in an organization or not)


Apathy is rife. Consumerism has proven to be a more fromdiable opponent in the "opium of the masses" department than religion ever was.

:confused:

Fascism still exists, and looks set to gain power (by which I mean Nazi parties like the BNP are getting more electoral support.)

Your whole understanding of fascism is wrong. Fascism is not a concrete ideology. Fascism basicaly comes into place when there is a failure of a revolution as the last resort of the capitalists in order to save private property.
We shall not fear the fascists as long as we are successfull. The BNP is not a threat for the working class at the moment and as long as there is no failed revolution .

[BobKKKindle$]

Revolutionary feeling does not seem to be growing, and capitalism seems as powerful as ever.

This is wrong; although the working class is not yet ready to challenge the power of the ruling class and overthrow capitalism, class struggle is becoming more intense, as workers are increasingly being forced to confront employers and defend the gains which have been made through past struggles, in response to increases in the prices of basic goods (below the rate of wage inflation) and cutbacks in the provision of public goods. This process of intensification provides an opportunity for socialists to agitate and intervene in workers struggles, and thereby enable workers to develop class consciousness and overcome the limits of bourgeois ideology.

[el_chavista]

... Consumerism has proven to be a more fromdiable opponent in the "opium of the masses" department than religion ever was.
What do we do?Let's tell the consumers they are destroying Earth Planet vital environment.