39 Years Ago Today

[Bud Struggle]

http://images.spaceref.com/news/2004/07.20.04.apollo.11.lg.jpg

America isn't always the nicest country--but we can do some pretty cool stuff from time to time.:thumbup:

[comrade stalin guevara]

So it been 39 years of us imperialisim in space, i wonder how much life they have destroyed in space since then?

[Bud Struggle]

So it been 39 years of us imperialisim in space, i wonder how much life they have destroyed in space since then?

There's no life in space. I guess we did a pretty good job.

And to your sig line:
The Pope? How many divisions has he got?--Stalin

There's the Pope John-Paul II corollary, sixty years later: "how many divisions does the Soviet Union have?" :lol:

[F9]

There are documentaries that US never been at the moon and its all set up.
Who knows:rolleyes:

Fuserg9:star:

[Kami]

There are documentaries that US never been at the moon and its all set up.
Who knowshttp://www.revleft.com/vb/../revleft/smilies/001_rolleyes.gif
There are documentaries about the bible code as well. They have about the same level of credibility.


So it been 39 years of us imperialisim in space, i wonder how much life they have destroyed in space since then?


Tomk already said it, but there's no life in space. In addition, while it's the world's richest countries predominantly up there at the moment, international law forbids countries and organisations from owning anything there, so imperialisms a little on the short side as well :P

[Dros]

So it been 39 years of us imperialisim in space, i wonder how much life they have destroyed in space since then?

There's no life on the moon or in empty space around earth. So, none.


There's the Pope John-Paul II corollary, sixty years later: "how many divisions does the Soviet Union have?"

You could ask Great Leader BOGOVICH but I doubt he'd tell you!;):lol::lol::lol:


There are documentaries that US never been at the moon and its all set up.

:rolleyes: Pathetic...

And I guess bigfoot exists to. And the world is controlled by the Illuminati.


Who knows

Me. I fucking know.

[Demogorgon]

I saw a good documentary on the moon landings in the cinema a year or so back-In The Shadow Of The Moon I think it was called. Anyway it was certainly notable for Buzz Aldrin explaining what he was doing when he stood on the lander's ladder getting his bearings beforce climbing onto the moon's surface. The suit's urtinary bag apparently ame in useful.

Can't quite watch the moon landing footage in quite the same way after that.

[Killfacer]

A trully excellent acheivment.

I must also point out however that it was commies who sent the first man into space!

[Shekky Shabazz]

America isn't always the nicest country--but we can do some pretty cool stuff from time to time.:thumbup:

The other day I saw this guy mug an old lady and yelled out 'Hey Stop!' and followed him. But then he went into an electronics store and came out with a Wii and I was all like 'sweeeet good choice'.

[IcarusAngel]

The commies were also the first ones to land a space probe on Venus I think, one of the more interesting planets, -- the Venera 7. This was actually the first one probe to transfer information from any planet back to earth.

[Robert]

So it been 39 years of us imperialisim in space

Dude, you think way too much about imperialism.

[pusher robot]

In addition, while it's the world's richest countries predominantly up there at the moment, international law forbids countries and organisations from owning anything there, so imperialisms a little on the short side as well :P

Countries, yes. Organizations, no. Celestial bodies may not be annexed by nations, but there is no law preventing private ownership.

[Axel1917]

There are documentaries that US never been at the moon and its all set up.
Who knows:rolleyes:

Fuserg9:star:

If the moon landing was faked, the Soviet Union would have blown it wide open. Why not? They could have, with their large amount of scientists and being one of the world's two superpowers at the time.

[Kami]

Countries, yes. Organizations, no. Celestial bodies may not be annexed by nations, but there is no law preventing private ownership.
the International Moon Treaty forbids the private ownership of celestial real estate (and not just on the moon), though it is true the Outer Space Treaty left that out:rolleyes:
Anywho, point is, yes, there is.

[mykittyhasaboner]

the Soviet Union got on the moon with a rover. thats some technology years ahead of the US. but i guess an actual human is more symbolic and well, better.

[Trystan]

If the moon landing was faked, the Soviet Union would have blown it wide open. Why not? They could have, with their large amount of scientists and being one of the world's two superpowers at the time.

That's very true. I'm not convinced though. But anyway, it doesn't matter that much.

[Schrödinger's Cat]

Might I point out NASA is a state entity? ;)

[lvl100]

If i`m not mistaken North Pole has the same thing, it cant be owned by a country.

Isnt amazing how unselfish are those countries ?
Especialy with places were life isnt possible without artificial suport and costs billions of $$ only to get there :laugh:


If the moon landing was faked, the Soviet Union would have blown it wide open. Why not? They could have, with their large amount of scientists and being one of the world's two superpowers at the time.

Actually they financed a large propaganda to make people believe that it was a fake, but never denied officially because of lack of evidence.

[apathy maybe]

Yeah, the USA does "good" stuff from time to time. Ignoring that the USSR did everything else (first artificial satellite, first animal in space, first man in space, first women in space, first rover on the moon, first to send anything to Mars, and Venus, etc.) first and better. The USSR heavy lift capability into space was also better then the USA, and it could be argued that the Russian heavy lift capability is also better then the USA's (same tech, just less money).

No to mention the only reason the USA sent anyone into space at all, let alone to the moon was a big dick competition. "My dick is bigger then yours!" (Now they just point to Cheney and everyone nods and agrees.)

Yeah, fuck the USA, fuck the USSR, and fuck this "big dick competitions". If we go into space, let it be for science and technology, not propaganda.

[lvl100]

No to mention the only reason the USA sent anyone into space at all, let alone to the moon was a big dick competition. "My dick is bigger then yours!" (Now they just point to Cheney and everyone nods and agrees.)

Yeah, fuck the USA, fuck the USSR, and fuck this "big dick competitions". If we go into space, let it be for science and technology, not propaganda.

Yeah but sadly exactly thos "big dick competion" made it possible in the first place.
After the moon landing people had so high hopes, and there were like a zillion of predictions : in the 80`s we land on mars and until 2000 we colonise both moon and mars :laugh:
Now its 2008 and they did such a big fuss over sending a damn probe to mars.
Yeah sending a ball of wires to mars its a fucking great achivement considering you have the technology to send men on other planets since 50 years ago.

[Demogorgon]

Countries, yes. Organizations, no. Celestial bodies may not be annexed by nations, but there is no law preventing private ownership.

There's that guy that claimed ownership of most of the solar system and sells off bits of it for money. I think you can get a bit of the moon for around ten pounds. Allegedly he jumped through all the hoops to do it legally.

However as all the major Space Agencies simply ignore him, it is all a bit moot really.

[Bud Struggle]

The USSR heavy lift capability into space was also better then the USA, and it could be argued that the Russian heavy lift capability is also better then the USA's (same tech, just less money).

Yea, but that's only because they got the better German rocket scientists after WWII. :lol:

Actually, a friend of mine (a scientist) one saw the Soviet moon landing moduele in Russia momentarily--maybe ten years ago. It was similar to the USA's but about twice as big. He said it was in storage somewhere--and the Russian scientists that he was meeting with didn't know much about it. It was from another era.

I wonder if it still in existance?

[pusher robot]

the International Moon Treaty forbids the private ownership of celestial real estate (and not just on the moon), though it is true the Outer Space Treaty left that out:rolleyes:
Anywho, point is, yes, there is.

No, there isn't. The International Moon Treaty was never adopted by the UN nor ratified by any spacefaring nation. So, it is not "international law" by any reasonable definition.

[534634634265]

hey, have you guys seen the video of the guy who heckles buzz aldrin or whoever and gets jacked in the face?:laugh::laugh::laugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQKxAqpjroo

thats what happens when you question the lunar landing, you get knocked the fuck out, biatch!

[Shekky Shabazz]

Might I point out NASA is a state entity? ;)

I must say, from my short time here, to see the only lucid response come from GeneC, it's very refreshing.

TomK, RTG, any other 'restricted' members in support of NASA, how did you come to the conclusion this is justified while other state adventures are not?

[Bud Struggle]

I must say, from my short time here, to see the only lucid response come from GeneC, it's very refreshing.

TomK, RTG, any other 'restricted' members in support of NASA, how did you come to the conclusion this is justified while other state adventures are not?

First point: Gene's a really pretty decent guy, I wouldn't get on his case too much--stick around for a while before you start criticizing people.

Anyway, NASA is (was) a great program. The flight to the moon itself, of course was a really nice thing but what the US government did was make new paths for creativity in US business that have really advanced America and the world technologically into the 21st century.

It like the US Interstate highway system (built to move troops around in case of a Communist invasion!) advanced business and business opportunities in America.

It was a good call.

[Robert]

TomK, RTG, any other 'restricted' members in support of NASA, how did you come to the conclusion this is justified while other state adventures are not?

Good question. But we're not all libertarians, if you're sensing hypocrisy. There is much state intervention I either support or tolerate for what I perceive as a greater good or at least avoidance of social and economic catastrophe.

Personally, I would prefer more collaboration among countries in space exploration so that cost and glory are shared. (Everyone's invited except North Korea.) Now that it's pretty clear that we're never leaving the solar system other than through our probes and satellites, I'm happy to see reduction in manned space flight and more Hubble projects.

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:Hh-rrvrktWgJ::uk.gizmodo.com/hubble.jpg

[Bud Struggle]

Of course we Capitalist earthlings need to protect ourselves from these guys:

http://www.vedrashko.com/uploaded_images/communist_mutants-740168.jpg

[Shekky Shabazz]

First point: Gene's a really pretty decent guy, I wouldn't get on his case too much--stick around for a while before you start criticizing people.


My intent wasn't to criticize Gene, I was surprised we agreed is all. Sorry it came off that way.



Anyway, NASA is (was) a great program. The flight to the moon itself, of course was a really nice thing but what the US government did was make new paths for creativity in US business that have really advanced America and the world technologically into the 21st century.

It like the US Interstate highway system (built to move troops around in case of a Communist invasion!) advanced business and business opportunities in America.


It was a good call.

So 'because I like it' is good enough? What are these 'new paths for creativity' that had to be coercively funded and couldn't have come about freely? Who decides and how do you decide which adventures will or have been ok with you?

[Shekky Shabazz]

Good question. But we're not all libertarians, if you're sensing hypocrisy. There is much state intervention I either support or tolerate for what I perceive as a greater good or at least avoidance of social and economic catastrophe.


Same question I asked TomK, Who decides and how do you decide which adventures will or have been ok with you?