Chemical Weapons Found in Iraq` - Ha Ha, Are you as surprise

[Capitalist Imperial]

Go to any news outlet for the latest.

Only one month, and the teams have found some WMDs, in addition to the material breach that they were already guilty of.

What more do you commie sucks want? We all knew he had them, now we have the smoking gun. Luckily, Bush had the forethought to start staging forces already.

Regime change is the only option.

Eradication of the Saddam Hussein dictatorship is imminent.

Soon, Iraq and all of it's resources will be under our control.

Long live the United States.

[Anonymous]

:shocked: I would have never guessed.

- Completely floored :smile:

[Goldfinger]

Well, that's how the US feels. The rest of the world sorta disagrees and averything. Like that french dude said; starting a war is admitting that you've lost.

(Edited by Apocalypse When at 9:34 pm on Jan. 17, 2003)

[antieverything]

I've said that they would find something from day one but let's not jump the gun here. They found empty warheads, not WMD's (shouldn't it be W'sMD like "passers by"?). Hans Blix said that he isn't worried about it and I think that they said that they still don't know if these were declared by Iraq previously or not.

[Anonymous]

We're not to keen on taking advice from the french.


Here's an article from CNN.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/01/17/...wrap/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/01/17/sproject.irq.blix.wrap/index.html)

[Capitalist Imperial]

Quote: from Apocalypse When on 8:32 pm on Jan. 17, 2003
Well, that's how the US feels. The rest of the world sorta disagrees and averything. Like that french dude said; starting a war is admitting that you've lost.

(Edited by Apocalypse When at 9:34 pm on Jan. 17, 2003)


Yeah, like the french have any impact on anything.

[Goldfinger]

Saddam isn't the only militant maniac with chemical/nuclear weapons of mass destruction, you know

[Capitalist Imperial]

Quote: from Apocalypse When on 8:52 pm on Jan. 17, 2003
Saddam isn't the only militant maniac with chemical/nuclear weapons of mass destruction, you know

he is the only one who has actually used them

[BOZG]

Have they proved how old the casings were yet?

[Larissa]

As far as I know, Hossam Mohammed Amin (liason to the UN inspectors) declared that the empty warheads were found in a sealed box that had never been opened. What the UN inspectors actually found there were "122 mm rockets with empty warheads. No chemical or biological warheads. Just empty rockets which are expired and were imported in 1988" - Adding that "a similar ordnance was found by U.N. inspectors in 1997".

But, of course, his statement is "not convenient" for the Bush administration, who wants definitely to bomb Iraq, no matter what it is found or not found.

[RedCeltic]

I thought that the point of going to war was that Iraq wasn't in compliance with the inspecters but hid the weapons of mass destruction.

If the inspecters found them than Iraq isn't hiding them are they? Also keep in mind there are bound to be chemicals left over from the war with Iran.

[Larissa]

Also, let's keep in mind that the sole objective of this war is for the US to get Iraq's oil, thus gain more control.

I found this site that has some interesting articles.
http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issue...es/irqindx2.htm (http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/irqindx2.htm)

[Goldfinger]

Quote: from Capitalist Imperial on 10:08 pm on Jan. 17, 2003

Quote: from Apocalypse When on 8:52 pm on Jan. 17, 2003
Saddam isn't the only militant maniac with chemical/nuclear weapons of mass destruction, you know

he is the only one who has actually used them

Not that I'm denying anything, as I really hate Saddam, but when was that?

[RedCeltic]

Sadam used Chemical warheads in the war with Iran.

[truthaddict11]

the weapons were in Iraqs weapons declaration. but with the idiots in washington they would bomb if they found the casing for a bullet

[Larissa]

Quote: from truthaddict11 on 7:00 pm on Jan. 17, 2003
the weapons were in Iraqs weapons declaration. but with the idiots in washington they would bomb if they found the casing for a bullet Sad, but TRUE. No doubt.

[RedCeltic]

I think Junior said that the US doesn't need a "smoking gun".... and I doubt he would deploy all those troops just to take them back home. They are prepairing... not for the possiblility of war but for a war they intend on fighting.

And I'm sure the companies want to reap the benifits of their investments in Iraqi oil as soon as possible.

[Moskitto]

I'm not really surprised, I had advanced notice that they would find something in january,

the war is in february,

[pastradamus]

I think its pretty obvious that he has chemical weapons.
He used them against Iran & against the kurds.But how come its only now,when Iraq is no longer a US ally that bush starts complaining.Its not like the chemical wepons saddam paid so much for are gonna disapeer,and what the US complaining about? they probably have the invoices for the chemical weapons in the first place. Its true that quote from lenin, "A capitalist will sell you the rope you use to hang him with"......or sumthing like that.

[truthaddict11]

if the war is inevitable than is protesting it futile?

[Anonymous]

Yes.

[abstractmentality]

Quote: from truthaddict11 on 6:14 pm on Jan. 17, 2003
if the war is inevitable than is protesting it futile?

a protest looks to be in vain, but because it MIGHT not make a difference, does that mean that we shouldnt try? i am of the opinion that the protest tomorrow, of which i will be at the one in San Francisco, that are expected to be the biggest anti-war protest since the Vietnam protest is perhaps the best option for us. to sit back in my dorm room and do nothing is not an option, and i will be on the bus tomorrow at 8:30 am on my way to attempt to do something.

[truthaddict11]

i am going to a demo wednesday

[Anonymous]

Ya' know, when the war is over this will all probably be just a funny memory. All this bickering and nonesense over the US's "right" to invade Iraq. Let's just go, get it over with, and go home. We have better things to do than fuck around with the UN and their typically asinine bullshit.

(Edited by Dark Capitalist at 9:28 am on Jan. 18, 2003)

[antieverything]

I could use the same argument to justify going to your house right now and ripping your throat out.

...wait a minute...I'll see you tonight.

[HankMorgan]

Again on this site, I predict Hussein will leave without a war.

The price of oil goes down if Iraqi oil is added to the world market, even if it's not sold directly to the US. Even if Saddam Hussein sells the oil. Adding oil to the market lowers the price for everyone.

So it's not a question of the oil per se. It's a question of who gets the oil revenue and what will they do with it.

Hussein has used Iraqi oil money to build a huge army. Hussein used that huge army to invade Kuwait, Iran and Saudi Arabia. Hussein used poison gas on his own citizens.

If Saddam Hussein remains in power, what will happen? How will he use the revenue from the world's second largest reserve of oil?

Will he use the oil revenue to obtain more powerful weapons with which to gain control of Saudi Arabia and the other gulf states? Or will he spend the money for the betterment of his own people? Keep in mind his track record.

President Bush isn't bluffing and when Saddam realizes it he will take early retirement somewhere in the Arab world.

(Edited by HankMorgan at 2:48 am on Jan. 18, 2003)

[Sol]

The protests never had a prayer of stopping the imminent invasion; that wasn't the point. If Bush (or any Prez) wants to do something bad enough it will happen. That's American democracy; doesn't matter that 70-80 percent of the population doesn't want a war.

The point of protest is to show opposition. If there are thousands in the street and Bush invades anyway, we have a chance to chip away at the political monolith he's developed.

[Disgustipated]

I wish the media would stop calling old artillery shells, missles and weapons of mass destruction. Yes, they are capable of holding chemical material, however....THEY WERE EMPTY!. If they were empty...they're not actually a weapon of mass destruction. The 122mm shells were also weaponry that is allowed under the sanctions. Blix himself stated that the casings really were "no big deal". Remember...Iraq is even allowed to have some short range missles under the pact, so lets not go around screaming everytime they find a stray rifle round or tank rocket.

The US media jumped all over it calling them missiles and WMD's because they are nothing but a propaganda arm for the White House and Pentagon and they need to SELL it.

I know they're deparate to get that oil, but jesus...settle down. I don't think anyone in Amerika is at risk from a projectile that has a 6-10 mile range.

[Invader Zim]

Quote: from Capitalist Imperial on 9:08 pm on Jan. 17, 2003

Quote: from Apocalypse When on 8:52 pm on Jan. 17, 2003
Saddam isn't the only militant maniac with chemical/nuclear weapons of mass destruction, you know
he is the only one who has actually used them

Ohh dear you forgot the USA, whigh has used both, britain has used them and France (possibly in Vietnam, but i would not swear to it) I dont know about Russia, Germany?? they used poison gas is WW2.



(Edited by AK47 at 4:25 pm on Jan. 25, 2003)

[Moskitto]

hang on, are these chemical weapons the empty chemical vats dated about 20 years old i hear talked about on the radio?

[Invader Zim]

Quote: from Moskitto on 10:19 pm on Jan. 25, 2003
hang on, are these chemical weapons the empty chemical vats dated about 20 years old i hear talked about on the radio?

Yep they are the ones on the radio, the 20 year old empty shell casing.

But any way the Gov already knows they have weapons of Mas Destruction, they sold them to Saddam, in the first place.