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Guest
11th January 2003, 17:39
North Korea (a failed economy)

"Attempting to understand the catalogue of horrors that has characterized much of twentieth-century history, Western scholars generally distinguish between violent revolutions of the right and the left. Fascist regimes are assigned to the evil right, Marxist-Leninist regimes to the benign left. But this distinction has left us without a coherent understanding of the revolutionary history of the twentieth century, contends A. James Gregor in this insightful book. He traces the evolution of Marxist theory from the 1920s through the 1990s and argues that the ideology of Marxism-Leninism devolved into fascism. Fascist regimes and Communist regimes--both anti-democratic ideocracies--are far more closely related than has been recognized."

North Korea is a radical Left Wing Socialist collective state. Ofcourse, as usual, everytime a Socialist society fails (as it always does) the hypocritical Left Wingers disassociate themselves from it and start calling it a "Fascist" society. This is just another attempt by extreme Leftists and Socialists to reclassify and reinvent themselves after each failure. In actuality, those that have read Marx know that the similarities between Communism/Socialism and Fascism are unbelievable.
Yes, we did send billions of dollars and food to Germany and Japan---AFTER THE WAR WAS OVER AND THESE COUNTRIES DID NOT REPRESEN A THREAT TO THE WORLD OR THE U. S. ANYMORE.

These are good sources of info on similarites of these two anti-democratic ideocracies (Communism/Fascism):
http://www.yale.edu/yup/books/078277.htm
http://www.tfp.org/what_we_think/fascism.html
One thing, for those that have read Marx, Communism and Socialism are the same and he uses both names interchangeably in his works. In the last few decades, the hypocritical and sanctimonious Leftists have reclassified these two words as to give "Socialism" a more "benign" look.

This is nothing more and nothing less than more double standards and hypocrisy from the Left:
North Korea last week said that "sanctions against N. Korea would be an act of war". Since when is any nation in the world (including the U. S.) obliged to have
any ties with another nation. N. Korea is free to trade with Mainland China, Russia and the rest of those Fascist/Socialistic societies. I mean, the collective-Fascist-Marxist society of N. Korea shouldn't be asking a "Capitalistic" society that they are bent on destroying to give them money and food. Why not just let "Socialism" (what they preach) bail them out.
Could any rational being (the word here is rational) conceive the U. S. and other ally leaders sending money and food to Nazi Germany while we were fighting them in WWII? Can you imagine having a neighbor next door to you that doesn't like you, threatens you, etc. demanding money from you or else he'll break the windows of your house. I think that since we are the "evil" Capitalists we really shouldn't help N. Korea. We should let the "collective" with all their "Socialistic might" take care of the famine in that country.

If you're interested to real solutions to complex problems (Capitalism isn't perfect and I myself do not advocate Laissez-Faire Capitalism---I'm for a mixed economy), you will check the sites below. But if you're more interested in quick-fix it solutions, slogans, and calling those that don't agree with you "Fascists" you may stop here.
See these sites to understand what makes a "Leftist":
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadA...cle.asp?ID=1226 (http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=1226)
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadA...cle.asp?ID=1955 (http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=1955)
http://karljahn.tripod.com/liberal.htm
http://www.sierratimes.com/02/01/28/raythomas.htm

Fascism and Marxism:
...one is a 'pathology' of the universal, the other a
'pathology' of the national....

truthaddict11
11th January 2003, 18:13
shut up MaxB

Guest
12th January 2003, 02:39
'truthaddict11', you have to be the most retarded poster on this forum.Your idioticy spreads like a virus.

MaxB was simply posting about North Korea's failed economy.I have a question for you really...


...Why are you backing up the North Korean goverment...?

North Korea's Goverment doesn't even allow internet access in the country so that North Koreans can see whats going on outside their pathetic little starving country.North Korea is starving because of it's goverment and you back them.

Smart move moron!

antieverything
12th January 2003, 02:48
Nah, the only people who back North Korea are Mazdak and possibly some of the other 12 year old douchefuckers out there.

Bring on the regime change, let's get those people some fucking food!

Thine Stalin
12th January 2003, 02:54
Maybe the koreans don't want a regieme change, and maybe their military (which is what all the food goes to) is the only thing they have to be proud of.

antieverything
12th January 2003, 16:54
So they are all anorexics and don't want to eat?

Mazdak
12th January 2003, 17:52
Quote: from antieverything on 2:48 am on Jan. 12, 2003
Nah, the only people who back North Korea are Mazdak and possibly some of the other 12 year old douchefuckers out there.

Bring on the regime change, let's get those people some fucking food!



From someone who calls revolutionary hero a dumbass, i take that as a compliment you worthless fuck.

antieverything
12th January 2003, 22:00
Revolutionary Hero is a dumbass...he actually said that the USSR was highly democratic. How is a one candidate ballot democratic?

timbaly
13th January 2003, 02:24
I can't imagine anyone who has the ability to think who wouldn't want a regime change in North Korea. The majority of the North Koreans seem to be mindless, free thought is not promoted in that country at all. The people dance around in huge squares for the leaders, it's like a crazy cult. Even if there was a free poll that wasn't gov't controlled I bet the people would still favor the current leadership over change. The people seem so brainwashed that they don't know any better they don't realize how horriblr it is in their own country

canikickit
13th January 2003, 03:07
Let's not be hasty, Timbaly. I don't think it is fair to judge 21,386,109 people on the basis of your interpretation of the amount which would fit into a "huge square".

Kapitan Andrey
13th January 2003, 09:41
I don't have so much time to read the opinion of the "Guest", but I'll tell you my opinion!

I'm from Russia, and I like EVERETHING that is against >u$a<!!! About N.Korea, we helped them to fight against the yankee, and now they are not dangerous for us!!! bush must be sceared by the "new uncontrolable nuclear power of North Korea" (laughter)
Yea!!! "N.U.N.P.N.K."

Russian and Korean is brothers forever, like Russian and Chines!!!

So...now yankee must lern, how to RESPECT communist countries!!!

truthaddict11
13th January 2003, 11:42
Quote: from Guest on 9:39 pm on Jan. 11, 2003
'truthaddict11', you have to be the most retarded poster on this forum.Your idioticy spreads like a virus.

MaxB was simply posting about North Korea's failed economy.I have a question for you really...


...Why are you backing up the North Korean goverment...?

North Korea's Goverment doesn't even allow internet access in the country so that North Koreans can see whats going on outside their pathetic little starving country.North Korea is starving because of it's goverment and you back them.

Smart move moron!


stop with your senseless flamming. I said Shut up MaxB because the article is similar to ones he posted plagurizing others work then not even debating on it.

also where the hell did you get i support N Korea from saying shut up MaxB?

Guess what Guest? I DONT!


(Edited by truthaddict11 at 7:13 am on Jan. 13, 2003)


(Edited by truthaddict11 at 7:15 am on Jan. 13, 2003)

IzmSchism
13th January 2003, 11:51
Quote: from Guest on 5:39 pm on Jan. 11, 2003
North Korea (a failed economy)

This is nothing more and nothing less than more double standards and hypocrisy from the Left:
North Korea last week said that "sanctions against N. Korea would be an act of war". Since when is any nation in the world (including the U. S.) obliged to have
any ties with another nation. N. Korea is free to trade with Mainland China, Russia and the rest of those Fascist/Socialistic societies. I am not sure who you are really referring too?

I don't understand how you come to the conclusion that countrues such as China are in the same class as you coin, 'Fascist/ Socialistic societies'? As far as I know China is now a member of the WTO, it has been over a decade since Russia and communism parted, they have been a guest of NATO in discussions over the last year.I am not sure who you are really referring too?

I mean, the collective-Fascist-Marxist society of N. Korea shouldn't be asking a "Capitalistic" society that they are bent on destroying to give them money and food. Why not just let "Socialism" (what they preach) bail them out.
Could any rational being (the word here is rational) conceive the U. S. and other ally leaders sending money and food to Nazi Germany while we were fighting them in WWII? Can you imagine having a neighbor next door to you that doesn't like you, threatens you, etc. demanding money from you or else he'll break the windows of your house. I think that since we are the "evil" Capitalists we really shouldn't help N. Korea. We should let the "collective" with all their "Socialistic might" take care of the famine in that country.

I agree, that any sort of aid now to North Korea would seem futile, but far be it from any of us to state the inner state and condition of North Korea. They have opened up some discussion with Japan, and have released captive Japanese citizens to go back home. Not that this is any great step, but it does seem to warrant a step in the right direction, then again it could be a political move to garner some credibility in international relations. North Korea to me seems like a stubborn fat kid who just cant say no to that last smartie, his obesity will be his end. We have to say, no more smarties, you have had your share, the problem is, we have said yes to him so many times before, that he thinks this causal relation will keep on working, and the fact that US has its hands full, a little prod and poke by the little fat kid and we'll dismiss him and hand him some more to shut him up.