Gifted Education in a Communist society

[Lost In Translation]

I'm currently in a Gifted Education program in Canada. However, should we enter a communist society, would these opportunities be lost?

[dirtycommiebastard]

I don't think this type of navel-gazing into the future is honestly useful but still interesting. It is impossible to say what society will look like if it were a communist mode of production.

Education would most definitely be different. It is completely possible that a standardized schooling system will exist only for young children, while later education will be based more around jobs and production. It seems to me that in an abundance society, our relationship to production will be the leading social factor in our education and vice-versa.

People will probably have to learn basic skills like reading, writing and mathematics, but will then pursue specific education centered around jobs they wish to pursue. Of course everyone will have access to any sort of education in history and science, etc.

In your case, since you are a talented student, your skills will help you excel in specific fields much faster than others.

[Holden Caulfield]

I'm currently in a Gifted Education program in Canada


well la dee da

[Decolonize The Left]

I don't think this type of navel-gazing into the future is honestly useful but still interesting. It is impossible to say what society will look like if it were a communist mode of production.

Education would most definitely be different. It is completely possible that a standardized schooling system will exist only for young children, while later education will be based more around jobs and production. It seems to me that in an abundance society, our relationship to production will be the leading social factor in our education and vice-versa.

People will probably have to learn basic skills like reading, writing and mathematics, but will then pursue specific education centered around jobs they wish to pursue. Of course everyone will have access to any sort of education in history and science, etc.

In your case, since you are a talented student, your skills will help you excel in specific fields much faster than others.

This seems to be a very good response. I agree.

I would only add that "people will probably have to learn" much more than that. Basic biology, chemistry, physics, history, geography, etc... are all vital to a fundamental base of education.

- August

[Floyce White]

The easy answer: yes.

The hard answer: most of the exceptionally-bright youth miss out on virtually every opportunity--same as most of the exceptionally-dull youth and the average youth--because they are born into poor families. We organize revolution to get rid of the system that endlessly invents special opportunities.

[Lost In Translation]

well la dee da
Is something wrong with that? Besides the fact that the program is in a bourgeoise system...

[RedAnarchist]

Is something wrong with that? Besides the fact that the program is in a bourgeoise system...

I don't think he was serious.

[jake williams]

Well I can come at this from the perspective of someone who grew up in a poor, low-resource school where a lot of the students were semi-literate and most of them despised me for doing pretty well in school and for knowing things about things. The comment that these programs are typically only offered to fairly well-off students hits home for me immediately. You're lucky.

Different people have different visions of socialism. Some people do indeed envision very vicious, very blind "egalitarianism" where everyone is treated identically. But what I think makes a lot more sense is to give everyone an equal opportunity to express their own interests and abilities, which you need socialism to do, and in fact this has been a critical point of the Left for its entire history.

[Dros]

Yes.

Why wouldn't it?

[Lost In Translation]

Yes.

Why wouldn't it?
Why wouldn't it what?

[DancingLarry]

Education would most definitely be different. It is completely possible that a standardized schooling system will exist only for young children, while later education will be based more around jobs and production. It seems to me that in an abundance society, our relationship to production will be the leading social factor in our education and vice-versa.



I think quite the opposite. In a society of sufficiency, education for production becomes less and less prominent. Sufficiency allows us to pursue the higher purposes and capabilities of human potential, the arts, the humanities, medicine and the sciences. It's the society of scarcity that puts a premium on production, even if those scarcities are themselves artificial or manufactured as the capitalist system requires. The liberation of labor means in the end the goal of the liberation from labor.