REPEAL THE BAN on STALINISTS and MaxB - Vote now this is a p [Archive]

timbaly

2nd January 2003, 03:58

Ok people this is simple. Vote yes or no on whether or not you wish to repeal the bans on the stalinists and MaxB. Please post here only once, simply post yes or no and why if you wish, but thats all.

When you don't agree with someone you don't silence them you prove why they're wrong. If the majority votes yes for the repeal then the administration should send notices via e-mail to the banned members. I want cassius clay, mazdak, boridcea88, thursday, theButhcher, and Max B to be allowed to post here again. I'm sorry if I forgot anyone else, so write the people I have forgotten.

If Malte truly believes in democracy he will act based on the results of this poll. If he decides to go against the mass than we will know he is a hypocrite. How can he use the very tactics he hates? If he has to confine them to a Stalinist forum than so be it, it's progress.

Now i know someone, probaly D-DAY will ask me "What next a nazi forum?". Well I don't like the idea but it is the right thing to do. Nazis make me sick and we should fight the war against them along with the war against stalinists.

Anonymous

2nd January 2003, 04:26

Yes, repeal the ban.

Crusader 4 da truth

2nd January 2003, 04:50

Yes repeal the ban

Stormin Norman

2nd January 2003, 04:55

A repeal of the ban is in order.

Michael De Panama

2nd January 2003, 04:58

Yes.

El Che

2nd January 2003, 04:59

*yawn*

Stormin Norman

2nd January 2003, 05:09

MaxB is a capitalist and should be able to post on this forum, if he can refrain from the tactics that have a tendency to annoy. Lately, he has not been copy and pasting. He has made a real effort to come up with his own works. You should let him back on if he promises to continue with this trend.

Also you should fix the problem that CI is having with his home IP.

What is the matter? Can you only handle one capitalist at a time?

synthesis

2nd January 2003, 05:52

Lefty

2nd January 2003, 06:18

Repeal the ban. Bring the rascists and nazi's on, as long as they are kept in this forum.

bazzone

2nd January 2003, 07:05

Repeal the ban. (I know I'm a new poster, but I've read the forum for a while now.)

Beccie

2nd January 2003, 07:32

Yes repeal the ban.

Stormin Norman

2nd January 2003, 08:28

I vote to repeal the ban.

I also believe that the Socialism vs. Capitalism forum should be renamed to the Opposition forum. It would extend to Nazis and racists so we can show them their own idiot logic on our terms rather than theirs, where they ban you for being correct. But, they should have to follow the rules, obviously. Also, if the Stalinists grow to be too big of a nuisance, we can put them here as well.

This way we can put the three most idiotic groups in one forum and leave them to spat it out amongst each other without having to deal with them elsewhere.

Final thing, in my opinion, no one should be banned for doing anything that is not specifically written in the rules for the board and for this forum. People should not be banned because they annoy a mod, they should be banned because they've broken a written law for this forum.-from dyermaker

Yes, dyermaker would like nothing more than to lump Nazis and Stalinists in with us capitalists in an effort to discredit us. If you take dyermakers advice to have an opposition forum, I would ask that you quarantine the Nazis and Stalinists in a seperate forum. Keep soc vs. cap as a forum the debates the merits and differences of socialism and capitalism. Make a new forum for those despicable types the Marxists constantly fail at trying so vocally to distance themselves from.

Zozothedog

2nd January 2003, 08:47

repeal the ban,

I do know who those people are or why they were banded, but banning people from a open forom of converstation and chatting is pussy, if you dont like what they say, then disagree, a Nazi may be wrong but they should be aloud to speak,

synthesis

2nd January 2003, 08:58

Yes, dyermaker would like nothing more than to lump Nazis and Stalinists in with us capitalists in an effort to discredit us.

Not really. As I've said before, I'd rather live under a capitalist system than a Stalinist or Nazi one. I just don't think capitalists deserve their own forum. IMHO, bullshit is bullshit and therefore can only make more bullshit when you lump it all together.

Make a new forum for those despicable types the Marxists constantly fail at trying so vocally to distance themselves from.

I've seen plenty of evidence that Stalinism is not Marxist.

I don't think the link (a.k.a. the lack thereof) between Marxism and National Socialism is really debatable; Marx and Lenin were both Jews, and National Socialism was, in no small way, a reaction to Soviet Communism.

El Che

2nd January 2003, 09:12

No one has any rights here. You take this [board] far too seriously. This aint shit. It`s a discussion circle.

Why insist in masochism? Who here wants to be a part of a board filled with racists, bigots, reactionaries, dangerous violent mentaly unbalanced ignorantes who use social terror to exorcise their frustrations? Please explain to me why you feel the need to be around garbage(I call em as I see em).

My advice is drop the subject.

Stormin Norman

2nd January 2003, 09:26

Who here wants to be a part of a board filled with racists, bigots, reactionaries, dangerous violent mentaly unbalanced ignorantes who use social terror to exorcise their frustrations?

Good point, but I don't think that MaxB or CI fit the bill. I would disagree with your use of the ban in these situations, but Proud American was an excellent example of why the ban exists. Can you help me out getting the capitalists reinstated? That's all I really care about. Fuck the racists and outright supporters of mass murder. We should keep this forum cap vs. soc. Banning capitalists damages the credibilty of having such a forum. Would you not agree, El Che?

(Edited by Stormin Norman at 9:27 pm on Jan. 2, 2003)

El Che

2nd January 2003, 10:14

Capitalists are a different question. They don`t bother me as much as the extremists. I don`t forget that support for Capitalism is part of the dominante ideology of our societies that is induced unto you. To reject it requires reflection, most are unwilling or unable to make, and an acceptance of the consequences. A Socialist, a Communist, is a social deviant, a marginal.

Ignorance is a defense not all can claim. Those guilty of premeditated, conscient defense of imoral practices are in graver situation. Greed, cowardice, malice. Risking error we pass judgement on others.

Debate with Capitalists can sometimes be stimulating but is more often tiring, annoying. Overall I think it`s probably healthy. However if people want to ban them they won`t find opposition here.

(Edited by El Che at 10:15 am on Jan. 2, 2003)

man in the red suit

2nd January 2003, 10:16

yes, repeal ban. :)

Stormin Norman

2nd January 2003, 10:28

"I don`t forget that support for Capitalism is part of the dominante ideology of our societies that is induced unto you. To reject it requires reflection, most are unwilling or unable to make, and an acceptance of the consequences. A Socialist, a Communist, is a social deviant, a marginal."

How would you explain me? Obviously I am the reflective type. Since I can remember, I have been one that questions virtually everything. I support free market economies after intensive studies on economics, sociology, and politics. I guess that would qualify me as a supporter of capitalism in your eyes. In addition, I do not qualify as a being "guilty of premeditated, conscient defense of imoral practices are in graver situation. Greed, cowardice, malice". Nor, am I ignorant. Since neither of your assertions about capitalists remain true for me, perhaps there is something you could learn from me, just as I have learned from some of you. I am the type who believes something can be learned from the statements made by most anyone, no matter how abhorent the views they espouse. I for one am always listening for bits of truth that offer as a beacon in this world of distortions and lies. I am in search of that absolute truth I know to exist. When I get a wiff of it there is nothing more invigorating.

El Che

2nd January 2003, 10:52

Despite the care I take to write as correctly as possible I recognise I make many mistakes. Often do I spot them when pondering on what I have written. The point you raise occured to me before you raised it.

It should read: Ignorance or error is a defense not all can claim.

I obviously recognise a third, not mentioned, possibility, namely that the error is mine. But am I not speaking from my point of view?

Give it up normon, you will get nothing here. Only war on all fronts. Intellectualy your camp has no chance. Practicaly you have the upper hand. Your strength is that of convention.

"I am in search of that absolute truth I know to exist."

Don`t give me more wood to burn you with. No need to mix ideas.

(Edited by El Che at 11:11 am on Jan. 2, 2003)

(Edited by El Che at 11:12 am on Jan. 2, 2003)

Guest

2nd January 2003, 11:00

repeal the ban !!!

i did so love to see what mazdak could come up with to argue against my posts !

Sovietsky Souyuz (lost my password, but i shall return)

Stormin Norman

2nd January 2003, 11:08

El Che,

How about removing the Stormin Moron from under my avatar.

Thanks,

Stormin Norman

El Che

2nd January 2003, 11:15

I dun have administrative powers.

synthesis

2nd January 2003, 11:26

Why insist in masochism? Who here wants to be a part of a board filled with racists, bigots, reactionaries, dangerous violent mentaly unbalanced ignorantes who use social terror to exorcise their frustrations? Please explain to me why you feel the need to be around garbage(I call em as I see em).

A simple desire to debate them on my terms (well, as much as possible) rather than their own faulty ones.

chamo

2nd January 2003, 11:58

Repel the ban on stalinists. I'm also prepared to see MaxB let back in if he drops the tactics that got him banned.

BatistaNationalista

2nd January 2003, 12:11

Typical commie behavior: Eliminate the opposition. There's probably a thread in Commie Club to get me banned already.

(Edited by BatistaNationalista at 12:17 pm on Jan. 2, 2003)

synthesis

2nd January 2003, 12:21

Typical commie behavior: Eliminate the opposition.

This is coming from a supporter of Batista, who, when he heard that the revolution was coming out of the universities, ordered his men on a 24/7 siege of all Cuban colleges and shot-to-kill anyone who came out.

Hypocrite.

chamo

2nd January 2003, 12:31

Quote: from BatistaNationalista on 12:11 pm on Jan. 2, 2003
Typical commie behavior: Eliminate the opposition. There's probably a thread in Commie Club to get me banned already.

(Edited by BatistaNationalista at 12:17 pm on Jan. 2, 2003)

In case you didn't notice, this is a thread to REPEL bans on people.

Goldfinger

2nd January 2003, 12:59

repeal theban, atleast in socialism vs capitalism.

Guest

2nd January 2003, 14:45

Just the thought that they ban people for their thoughts ought to tell you something about the pathetic Marxists.
Be it copy and paste or any other form of posting, I'll post anyway I seem fit. You can read it or ignore it---or ban me (which is what Marxists do best---besides lying).
For example, did you know that in those wonderful paradises, Cuba, Red China, and N. Korea internet access is limited only to Communist party members and "designated" members of the work force. Did you people know that in Cuba home access to the internet is prohibited. Yes sir, so much for these "just" and failed Socialists societies that you Lefties are constantly revising and offering apologies for. The best one I've heard: "N. Korea is Fascist". Everytime Socialism fails, the Left refers to the failed state as a "Fascists" state. What the Left hates to admit is that Socialism is a failure and that the similarities between Socialism and Fascism are incredible. Go to google.com and do a search on "similarities between Fascism and Communism" or "similarities between Fascism and Socialism". Collectivism works on paper and theory and THAT'S ALL. Reality is a different thing.

Stormin Norman

2nd January 2003, 15:05

"Collectivism works on paper and theory and THAT'S ALL. Reality is a different thing."

I wouldn't even say that much.

timbaly

2nd January 2003, 21:31

Where is Malte? I hope you aren't ignoring this, it seems as if you have lost and democracy has prevailed. The ban must be repealed. If you want to wait for more votes than so be it, but you will see that the majority wants a repeal.

To make it official I definetly wnat a repeal. I would also like to see a full list of the banned members, that you have witheld from us. You haven't even marked Mazdak as banned on the member list and I'm sure he wasn't the only victim of the purge.

If you wish to confine the Stalinists to one forum than do it. We can't ignore them, we know they exist. We must fight the war. The same goes for nazis and other facists which should also be confined to a forum. We should also have one forum that allows capitalists, fascists, communists and socialists and stalinists to debate each other.

(Edited by timbaly at 9:06 pm on Jan. 3, 2003)

Anonymous

2nd January 2003, 21:35

The "liberals" have purged the stalinists. Oh the irony.

Exploited Class

2nd January 2003, 21:50

Quote: from Guest on 2:45 pm on Jan. 2, 2003
Just the thought that they ban people for their thoughts ought to tell you something about the pathetic Marxists.
Be it copy and paste or any other form of posting, I'll post anyway I seem fit.

And that my friends is the true mentality of a child. I'll do it however I want, I don't care what rules you impose, waaaaahhh. I'll blame what happened to me not as my actions but your idealogy. I don't know how to take responsibility for my actions, I have to blame others.
Even when you tell me the rules about copying and pasting I'll just be a stubborn little 4 year old that wants his way. Waaaaaahhhhh.

I don't give a shit about Stalanites. But the Ban on MaxB needs to be on along with his annoying IP address.

Adult response would have been: Okay I see that I was banned from this forum because I kept copying and pasting and not really responding. That has been proven and I can't deny that for every topic I created I only averaged 1 response post. Sure many of you feel that this is a spamming of a message board, and in fact are not attacking me because of my views but of my actions. I recognize this and can work within the rules you are setting down. I will pay more attention and give more responses and add to the forum through replies to my topics as well as through others. We may not see eye to eye on topics but I do understand that rules govern this message board and we should all recognize and follow these rules.

Instead, Waaaaaaahhhhhhh Big baby.
"Be it copy and paste or any other form of posting, I'll post anyway I seem fit."

Exploited Class

2nd January 2003, 21:57

Quote: from Stormin Norman on 5:09 am on Jan. 2, 2003
MaxB is a capitalist and should be able to post on this forum, if he can refrain from the tactics that have a tendency to annoy. Lately, he has not been copy and pasting. He has made a real effort to come up with his own works. You should let him back on if he promises to continue with this trend.

I'll Let MaxB answer that for you.
Be it copy and paste or any other form of posting, I'll post anyway I seem fit.

Hey MaxB could not post the same article twice.
Be it copy and paste or any other form of posting, I'll post anyway I seem fit.

So okay, well can you just keep it down to say like 2 articles a week?
Be it copy and paste or any other form of posting, I'll post anyway I seem fit.

Okay thanks, great doing buisness with you.

El Che

2nd January 2003, 22:41

Incidently, who told you this is a Democracy?

Ari HR

2nd January 2003, 22:42

I'm against the ban of stalinists, but Maxie deserved it.

(Edited by Ari HR at 10:44 pm on Jan. 2, 2003)

Tkinter1

2nd January 2003, 22:52

"I would also like to see a full list of the banned members, that you have witheld from us."

He hasn't withheld that from us. Look at the very top of this page>goto member list>select banned users from the drop down menu.

timbaly

3rd January 2003, 02:05

Quote: from Tkinter1 on 5:52 pm on Jan. 3, 2003
"I would also like to see a full list of the banned members, that you have witheld from us."

He hasn't withheld that from us. Look at the very top of this page>goto member list>select banned users from the drop down menu.

Take a second look at that list do you see lenin, Mazdak, Lysenko or any other stalinist who has been banned during the recent purge? You'll see that the information is indeed being witheld.

bombeverything

3rd January 2003, 02:06

Yes, I disagree with the ban as well. Fight them with facts, not bans. Besides a forum where everyone agrees is rather boring.

Lardlad95

3rd January 2003, 02:11

Quote: from Stormin Norman on 5:09 am on Jan. 2, 2003
MaxB is a capitalist and should be able to post on this forum, if he can refrain from the tactics that have a tendency to annoy. Lately, he has not been copy and pasting. He has made a real effort to come up with his own works. You should let him back on if he promises to continue with this trend.

Also you should fix the problem that CI is having with his home IP.

What is the matter? Can you only handle one capitalist at a time?

that is very true he has made an attempt to reform

repeal the ban

Anonymous

3rd January 2003, 02:27

The stalinists weren't even given the honor of a proper banning. Their IPs were just blocked.

that is very true he has made an attempt to reform

repeal the ban

Well at least now we have one moderator that supports a repeal of the ban.

red monkey cheese

3rd January 2003, 02:43

yes, repeal ban.
timbaly: i gota comment on ur quote. pure greatness

RedCeltic

3rd January 2003, 02:49

Michael De Panama

3rd January 2003, 02:51

Good. I was waiting for supporters of the purge to speak up.

RedCeltic

3rd January 2003, 02:59

Since when have you started to stick up for Stalinists Michael?

You still have that quote from yuriandropov in your sig!

(Edited by RedCeltic at 9:00 pm on Jan. 2, 2003)

timbaly

3rd January 2003, 03:09

RedCeltic, by reading your sig i can understand why you are pro-ban. However people like me and Michael are sticking up for freedom of speech not stalinists. Everyone deserves that basic freedom no matter how much you disagree with them.

RedCeltic

3rd January 2003, 03:13

This is a message board run on a Private server.

Michael De Panama

3rd January 2003, 03:13

I'm not sticking up for the red fascists. I'm sticking up for the libertarian socialists such as myself. I think the whole idea of banning the Stalinists exhibits way too much authority for my liking.

RedCeltic

3rd January 2003, 03:16

You can still read about how Mazdak wants to put prostitutes and retarded people to death on Joon's board "CPSK". :)

(Edited by RedCeltic at 9:21 pm on Jan. 2, 2003)

RedComrade

3rd January 2003, 10:03

REPEAL THE BAN!!! Check my post on chit chat and history(same post hopefully will attract more attention); I propose a Stalinists vrs Opposition forum just as we have a cappie-commie forum. I think its a good idea and will help to bring some brainwashed fascists back into the left and embodie the true left spirit of freedom of speech and the chance for EVERY man to have a voice! As Zach said best "You'll Never Silence the Voice of the Voiceless!" Syonara Comrades and dont forget to sound off and bring freedom and reason back to our forum!

El Che

3rd January 2003, 16:28

It also sends a message. A message I am very comfortable with. A message I want to put across. It says: GET THE FUCK OUT, THE LEFT WILL NOT TOLERATE YOU!!!!!

KARL P E G

3rd January 2003, 17:20

Yes Recall the bannings.

Hey Dark Capitalist, what the hack do you want to say with your favourite sentence???

Stormin Norman

3rd January 2003, 17:28

I think you should have to have at least 3 stars before you can wiegh in on a matter that effects the integrity of this board.

But I do think those people with three stars should have a voice in how the bulletin board operates, to a point.

Edelweiss

3rd January 2003, 21:26

Again, as RC said: this is a message board on a private server, and not a country, and I can decide by my own how I want to provide a platform for. I'm not willing to provide a playground for stupid little kiddies who are trying to piss us off with their anti-human, anti-socialist views. And there will be not the bit of a chance that I'll ever tolerate Nazi's in this forum, people who want to discuss with the Nazi scum can go to places like thephora.com or ***************. But not here, no chance.
However, on the officiall voting thread on this issue in the Commie Club (making a voting thread in a public forum is fucking worthless, it can easily be maipulated!), we are moving towards the compromise that Stalinists will be restricted into SvsC (Ì`ll rename it into "opposing ideologies").
Before I banned all the Stalin kiddies this community was a total mess, everywere only redundant "Stalinists vs. the rest" threads, so the step of banning the Stalinists was primary made to increase the quality of the community.

Guest

3rd January 2003, 22:23

Malte, as it was stated before, your internet site reflects a Marxist society in all its "splendor". When you're offended by a post or an author, banning and censorship become the word of the day. This is typical of the Left. This is, as you said, a private forum for mentally handicapped (retards) people like you. You see, you Socialists could never have a Free, open forum because you would loose every argument. Well, at least the hypocrisy of the Left shows sooner or later. One more thing Malte, your avatar fits you well. The only Nazi scum here is you: remember moron, Fascism and Communism are evil twins of thr 20th century. Talking about "Nazi scum". How dare the pot call the kettle black?

Anonymous

3rd January 2003, 22:45

Quote: from KARL P E G on 10:20 pm on Jan. 3, 2003
Yes Recall the bannings.

Hey Dark Capitalist, what the hack do you want to say with your favourite sentence???

Excuse me?

Exploited Class

3rd January 2003, 22:50

Quote: from MaxB on 10:23 pm on Jan. 3, 2003
You see, you Socialists could never have a Free, open forum because you would loose every argument

Hehehe you see that isn't it it. You see, you MaxB can't handle little rules like don't flood a forum with copy and pasted articles over and over and over. You don't respect other people's property, which this server is, which I thought all capitalists respected other people's property. Why don't you mature a bit and actualy take some responsibility for your actions.

Remember when in somebody else's house, you follow their house rules. If there isn't a rule for what you are doing and they ask you to stop. You stop.

Anonymous

3rd January 2003, 22:54

The communist is complaining about us not respecting other people's property.

RedCeltic

4th January 2003, 02:56

Quote: from Dark Capitalist on 4:54 pm on Jan. 3, 2003
The communist is complaining about us not respecting other people's property.

I do realize that for many people on this board English isn’t their first language so I’m going to assume that Dark Capitalist is one of those people and therefore is not aware that the word “Property” can mean personal possession such as Exploited Class used in her post, or “property” meaning land such as the use in Karl Marx’s Communist Manifesto where he proposes the abolition of private property (land) not the abolition of property (possessions)

The abolition of private property means that land can no longer be used to obtain or define wealth. It means that it is taken out of the economy. It does not mean that I can walk into your house in the middle of the night and kick you out of your bed.

It does not mean that a message board on the Internet which takes up disk space not land belongs to everyone.

I also see the word Censorship being thrown around here by MaxB and I would like to know if he thinks that if I tried to publish an article complaining about Capitalism in Capitalist Magazine and was turned down… would that be censorship. Or if you tried to publish your rubbish in Workers World News.

(Edited by RedCeltic at 1:24 am on Jan. 4, 2003)

Exploited Class

4th January 2003, 04:57

Wow, good response Red Celtic. Thank you.

Hayduke

4th January 2003, 14:44

Quote: from BatistaNationalista on 5:11 pm on Jan. 2, 2003
Typical commie behavior: Eliminate the opposition. There's probably a thread in Commie Club to get me banned already.

(Edited by BatistaNationalista at 12:17 pm on Jan. 2, 2003)

Well well, looks who's back from hiding......

I saw, you back on the active user list, so i was wondering if you came to us, with anything interesting.

RedCeltic

4th January 2003, 15:04

so i was wondering if you came to us, with anything interesting.

the answer is no (as always).

Man of the Cause

4th January 2003, 15:04

Repeal the Ban!

Guest

4th January 2003, 16:24

Red Celtic, if you publish an article in a Capitalist magazine (or any other magazine) they can turn you down---it's their magazine after all. This is not a magazine; it's a Forum to "exhange" ideas---so Malte says. Forums for debates are supposed to be open to ALL ideas. All I do is post articles pointing out the imperfections and failures of Socialism, and the constant attempt by Left wingers to redefine and reclassify Socialism after each failure as to save face. We know that Capitalism isn't perfect, but what the Marxists do is compare a perfect version of Socialism (an impossibility) to an imperfect version of Capitalism. In other words, Socialism might look good on paper to the young, inexperienced, and narrow-minded; but in practice, it's doomed to fail from the beginning. By the way, I don't beleive in Laissez-Faire Capitalism---I'm all the way for a mixed economy=Capitalism with social reforms. Now, how far to the Left or to the Right the economy is tilted depends on the population and its government. But Marx's and Lenin's Socialism is as dead as they are.

guerrillaradio

4th January 2003, 16:58

Quote: from BatistaNationalista on 5:11 pm on Jan. 2, 2003
There's probably a thread in Commie Club to get me banned already.

LOL...hell no, don't flatter yourself. We've got better things to do than discuss idiots. I mean, it's not like you're a threat. :biggrin:

RedCeltic

4th January 2003, 18:27

Red Celtic, if you publish an article in a Capitalist magazine (or any other magazine) they can turn you down---it's their magazine after all. This is not a magazine; it's a Forum to "exchange" ideas---so Malte says.

The title on the top of the board says “CHE-LIVES.COM Community
Internationalist Forum for Che Admirers”

Not “Post anything you want, even if blatantly plagiarized."

I hope you don’t write reports for school the same way you make posts on the Internet.

Now perhaps.. just perhaps.. .the total banning of Stalinsts went a bit too far and we should decide what should be done about that in the Commie Club.

However posting plagiarized articles is not a right that we should protect on Che-Lives. I would expect any message board on the internet to hold to the same standerd.

There may very well be good points raised in some of the articles that you posted that could/should be addressed here, however plagiarizing the articles without even the slightest hint of credit, is only disrespect for the author and does nothing for your argument.

(Edited by RedCeltic at 12:38 pm on Jan. 4, 2003)

RedCeltic

4th January 2003, 18:59

P.S..... Please view my last post in the Banning of Stalinists thread in Commie Club to see how I feel.

Any attempt to petition a repeal outside of Commie Club should not be taken seriously.

Navid Communist

4th January 2003, 19:11

We have you banned all stalinist ??

Mazdak

4th January 2003, 22:43

Becuase he is mindless.

But dont worry, friends, bannings have no effect on me. They are futile, i rise again!

Now, Redceltic, please tell me where i wanted to kill retards again?

chamo

4th January 2003, 22:52

How did you do tha Mazdak, magic I guess. Good to see that you've been unblocked :)

Mazdak

4th January 2003, 22:59

I wasnt unblocked. I simply got around it. I swore i would.

chamo

5th January 2003, 16:00

Yeah , well I voted for the ban to be repelled so you must do everything I say.

Mazdak

5th January 2003, 16:55

happyguy, although i hate to destroy your dreams in this your moment of triumph, your vote did not get me back in. if this thread had not been made at all i still would be posting here.

Hayduke

5th January 2003, 17:39

Quote: from Mazdak on 9:55 pm on Jan. 5, 2003
happyguy, although i hate to destroy your dreams in this your moment of triumph, your vote did not get me back in. if this thread had not been made at all i still would be posting here.

Sorry to destroy that dream of yours, but your little backdoor trick, shouldnt be working anymore.

Lysenko

5th January 2003, 18:17

Quote: from D DAY on 5:39 pm on Jan. 5, 2003

Quote: from Mazdak on 9:55 pm on Jan. 5, 2003
happyguy, although i hate to destroy your dreams in this your moment of triumph, your vote did not get me back in. if this thread had not been made at all i still would be posting here.

Sorry to destroy that dream of yours, but your little backdoor trick, shouldnt be working anymore.

Not to worry, i am still here. D Day, like i said, youir futile attempts to ban me are even easier to get around than the IP block. Give up.

Hayduke

5th January 2003, 19:07

Quote: from Lysenko on 11:17 pm on Jan. 5, 2003
[quote]
Not to worry, i am still here. D Day, like i said, youir futile attempts to ban me are even easier to get around than the IP block. Give up.

Im not worrying, ill just keep doing this untill you got no computer left. And the internet cafe is awfully expensive no isnt ?

Anonymous

5th January 2003, 19:11

This is bullshit.

Hayduke

5th January 2003, 19:19

Quote: from Dark Capitalist on 12:11 am on Jan. 6, 2003
This is bullshit.

Quote: from Dark Capitalist on 12:11 am on Jan. 6, 2003
This is bullshit.

What is bullshit DC ?

That we ban the authorian kiddies, that want to kill everyone that are against them outside the board ?

You should really see that this is a message board, and that Malte will deciate who stay's on the board.

You're really lucky if it was for me, you guys would be out already.

Kirov

5th January 2003, 22:00

Quote: from D DAY on 7:07 pm on Jan. 5, 2003

Quote: from Lysenko on 11:17 pm on Jan. 5, 2003
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Not to worry, i am still here. D Day, like i said, youir futile attempts to ban me are even easier to get around than the IP block. Give up.

Im not worrying, ill just keep doing this untill you got no computer left. And the internet cafe is awfully expensive no isnt ?

Ok. Do just that. And who said i needed to use an internet cafe?

D Day, you are one of the greatest hypocrites on this site, i think any true leftist would find it insulting to know you are a moderator when you are so ignorant about socialism. Take that che pic out of your avatar... it is an insult to him. He would be rolling in his grave in disgust if he knew your kind of scum was using it.

timbaly

6th January 2003, 03:49

Ok people be careful. D-DAY he clearly has something up his sleeve. If we continue to ban him you'll end up blocking a lot of other members. He told me that he was using something like proxy, i really don't know anything about it but he said the'll be 5 members left once he is through.

Michael De Panama

6th January 2003, 04:26

What D Day's doing is an embarassment. It only strengthens the authoritarian cause by making the libertarian socialists as a whole look like hypocrites.

And I'd appreciate it if you supporters of this disaster would cease to mention how horrible Stalinism is in order to excuse your blatant abuse of your authority. I'm the first one who will tell you that Stalinists are fucking horrible. It's irrelevant. Banning them from an internet message board is not going to get rid of Stalinist thought. Quit being such a fucking COWARD and challenge their beliefs head on, unless you're too weak-minded to even possess that ability. In that case, I'd appreciate it if you shut the fuck up and stop disgracing the true communists with your hypocracy.

Hayduke

6th January 2003, 10:06

Michael De Panama ,

I seriously believe that debating with this fools, got to your head.
Havent we already said everything we needed to say ? Anything changed ?

No !

If you want to talk to these guys, fine !
I refuse to debate with anyone that talks, about death to lightly.
I refuse to talk to soemone with such a sick look on human beings.

But it seems that Che-Lives thinks otherwise, fine then so be it.
Enjoy talking fools.

RedCeltic

6th January 2003, 13:57

D-Day... this is geting out of hand! It's becoming a witch hunt. this is obviously not a popular ban with the newbies. Personally I would rather let all the Stalinists back BUT Mazdak but it's a wasted effort when he has more intenet access than most of the working class.

I say we let them back.. including Mazdak but only in S vs C... at least then we can ignore him if we wish.

RedCeltic

6th January 2003, 14:06

I'm going to lift the ban on Mazdak only.. not his other usernames. Continuing to ban him over and over again is insane and a waste of time.

D-Day, I hope you understand that it's for the best. Continuing to ban him over and over will only cause us to loose valuble members and further deteriorate the community.

Comrade Daniel

6th January 2003, 15:48

MaxB was irritating, and I was happy to see em away when I was back from holiday sunday.

Hayduke

6th January 2003, 16:34

ok, but restrict the guy straight away.

RedCeltic

6th January 2003, 21:02

already done... .

.... Also I still don't think MaxB has a place here. I don't think any board, regardless of politics or subject matter should accept mass postings of plagerized material.

Mazdak

6th January 2003, 22:48

Alright fine... My question to everyone on this website now is a question i do believe Lenin has asked before.

Is killing during the revolution justified?

Is having a militant revolution justified?

If one cannot aggree that they are... then i can see your point of view, however if you agree that they are, then i dont know what separates me from Ymir, TS, and B88.

Mazdak

7th January 2003, 01:28

alright its obvious this is being ignored. If you cant answer this what the hell do you expect me to do?

My only purpose for worming back in constantly was to protest the bannings. Now you instead restrict me. I ask two simple questions and not one of you can answer them?

What a joke. Progress cannot be achieved without violence. Look at Ghandi. He failed. He allowed India to lose Pakistan and Bangladesj, now look at the situation. Thats what your pacificm gets you. Look at india now. The overthrow must be bloody. peaceful overthrows thus far have not worked.

Desolate

7th January 2003, 03:54

Oh good day my favorite hypocrites.

You can surely guess who I am, (cough Thine Stalin cough) I see that the bann is unpopular :) Oh what happy day. Anyway let me back in >: ( under my Thine Stalin name. And let Boadeccia88 in too.

RedCeltic

7th January 2003, 04:16

Ahhh well... lets let the whole murder crew back in shall we? Fuck it... Maybe I'll be banned for this by morning... lol.

I can't do anything about Boadeccia88... You and Mazdak are getting around an IP ban that she apperently can't. There isn't a ban on her that I can lift.

If it's a password problem I'll try and help. Tell her she can reach me by AIM my username is " RSocialist

Mazdak

7th January 2003, 21:37

What the hell. You talk about unbanning him and then you ban him AGAIN? Will this load of BS ever end?

Anonymous

7th January 2003, 21:42

Its funny how the preachers of tolerance always seem to be the most intolerant.

(Edited by Dark Capitalist at 6:46 am on Jan. 8, 2003)

timbaly

7th January 2003, 22:03

........ A typically disgusting display.

RedCeltic

8th January 2003, 00:42

I did unban him... I unbanned Thine Stalin and banned the other username.

Mazdak

8th January 2003, 01:11

oh ok then. Thank you. finally a sensible action on this site.

Thine Stalin

8th January 2003, 02:55

Woo!

Mazdak

8th January 2003, 03:26

Excellent!!

truthaddict11

8th January 2003, 03:47

thankfully they are contained to one forum

RedCeltic

8th January 2003, 15:18

Well I hope your happy now Michael De Panama... now that you've been reunited with your buddies. :(

RGacky3

8th January 2003, 17:46

yes get rid of the ban, I've been fighting for the stalinists almost the whole time I've been here!

RedCeltic

8th January 2003, 21:58

I just did aren't you paying attention?

Mazdak

8th January 2003, 22:08

Quote: from truthaddict11 on 3:47 am on Jan. 8, 2003
thankfully they are contained to one forum

Yes, its a shame we cant do the same to the trotskyists.

Talk about equality. If i wanted to be stuck with capitalists i would walk outside. This caging business is ridiculous. Dont think i am content about it at all. anyone with common sense will agree with me on this. Or at least cage the trotskyists.

RedCeltic

8th January 2003, 23:18

would you rather go back to being banned again Mazdak?

Exploited Class

8th January 2003, 23:46

When did this turn into a pissing contest?

Mazdak

9th January 2003, 00:01

well, since bannning wouldnt have much of an effect.. i dunno. I kind of like being a rogue. But i wont complain.. for the moment anyway....

But ban me again and you can guess my next action would be.

RedCeltic

9th January 2003, 00:31

By any chance would that include getting a life?

Mazdak

9th January 2003, 01:27

Quote: from RedCeltic on 12:31 am on Jan. 9, 2003
By any chance would that include getting a life?

lmao.

timbaly

9th January 2003, 01:59

Well someone is really going to want to shoot me for this poll. I've help made the website safer for the stalinists. Thank you, thank you.

Thine Stalin

9th January 2003, 02:08

Oorah!

Though I do not understand the altered title. Psuedo nazi trash?

You give me too much credit :D Pseudo means 'false' therefore I am not a real nazi.

RedCeltic

9th January 2003, 02:24

actually when I lifted the ban on you the title switched back to normal and I forgot what the title he had under your name was.

canikickit

9th January 2003, 03:28

I'm not exactly sure what you're talking about Red, but nevertheless, I disagree.

You give me too much credit :D Pseudo means 'false' therefore I am not a real nazi.

Of cource you're not a Nazi, Thin Stalin. Nazis don't hang around on their computers all day, playing fantasy dictators. At least that's my interpretation.