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Comrade Rage
12th July 2008, 21:02
There's this stuff going around about how the world is going to end in 2012, or there is going to be a Rapture in 2012, etc.
This is based on the end of the Mayan Calendar, and/or the Aztec calendar. Both of their religions supposedly believe in this.
Does anyone here believe this? I don't, but I think it would be interesting for someone who does to explain this.
I voted no.
Demogorgon
12th July 2008, 21:19
It rather goes without saying that I don't. I will be astounded if anybody here believes in it.
RedAnarchist
12th July 2008, 21:26
Why would there be? Its just a date, thats all.
Comrade Rage
12th July 2008, 21:28
Why would there be?
They're have been a lot of religious people on TV, as well as handing stuff out on the street, that say that since it's the end of the Mayan calendar that there's supposed to be armageddon or a rapture or some shit that happens on that date.
Wanted to see if anyone here buys that.
Demogorgon
12th July 2008, 21:30
They're have been a lot of religious people on TV, as well as handing stuff out on the street, that say that since it's the end of the Mayan calendar that there's supposed to be armageddon or a rapture or some shit that happens on that date.
Wanted to see if anyone here buys that.
There are dates like that all the time. Apocalypse day for one religion or another roles round at least once a decade.
Mind you, there was talk of earth being at risk from that large astroid around then:laugh:
Comrade Rage
12th July 2008, 21:39
There are dates like that all the time. Apocalypse day for one religion or another roles round at least once a decade.
Mind you, there was talk of earth being at risk from that large astroid around then:laugh:
Yeah I know.:lol:
I don't believe in any of these theories about this date, but I want to see if anyone here does and could explain his/her rationale for it.
I know of one aquaintance that is planing on moving to Spain to avoid the supposed apocalyps 2012. He also believes that Reptillians rule the World secretly. Very sad.
Comrade Rage
12th July 2008, 22:47
I know of one aquaintance that is planing on moving to Spain to avoid the supposed apocalyps 2012. He also believes that Reptillians rule the World secretly. Very sad.
Man, that is pretty sad. I'm not trying to mock the guy, but why does he think that he'll be safe in Spain?
The more I hear of this theory, the odder it seems.
Bud Struggle
12th July 2008, 23:12
I believe that will be the date of the world wide Communist Revolution. I was sent a Communist calendar when I joined the CP-USA. :lol:
Red_or_Dead
12th July 2008, 23:19
7-0 for common sense, now that I voted.
Killfacer
12th July 2008, 23:42
laughable
pusher robot
13th July 2008, 05:00
My friends and I use it as a running joke, e.g., when one person starts talking about long term plans, the other will say, "well, it doesn't matter anyways, the world is ending before then."
It's stupid. In the Slashdot tradition of analogizing everything to cars, it's like believing your car will stop running at the 100,000th mile just because the odometer only goes up to 99999.
spartan
13th July 2008, 05:07
Hmm something tells me that if this was some Christian belief started from some obscure text we would see it for what it is... bullshit.
Come on guys just because it is from a native American culture doesn't make it anymore true.
All religions (Even the ones of the Aztecs and Mayans) are bullshit.
Though as i am a superstitious bastard i will take that back and offer a prayer to which ever god/s they worship.
Bright Banana Beard
13th July 2008, 05:14
The Mayan did not say it will end world, but the beginning of the 5th Epoch or new dawn of era. Either way, I don't think those shit will happen.
Dean
13th July 2008, 05:21
Who voted yes?
Faux Real
13th July 2008, 05:24
Who voted yes?Moi, just to spice things up since everyone's going to vote no.
comrade stalin guevara
14th July 2008, 02:29
They probably ran out of paper to continue with the calender, just like you and I would say, "That'll do for now" when we stack firewood.
It's just a date.
pravada comrade
hahahaha i really enjoy when shit like this come up,there was and a priest orthodox christian who usually goes to television,and he was saying too a date (i cant remember the date)that the GOD will appear and it will be the end of the world:crying:hahahahaha i cant stop laughing when i hear those things,they say that there god told it to them and they usually they see it at dreams.Its funny that so much different religions end with a destruction!
And this one it is specially asociated with that in 6 of june 2006 antichrist was born,now at 12/12 of 2012 the world will end!:lol:
Bullshits!I cant even understand why people just believe in such things!
Fuserg9:star:
trivas7
14th July 2008, 02:37
People forget that the Maya calendar is cyclic, i.e. the end of one cycle ends to begin another. Apocalyptism exists only in the Abrahamic (and Norse) traditions.
Kwisatz Haderach
14th July 2008, 02:37
The Mayan guy who decided not to extend the calendar beyond 2012 because it was too much work and no one cared about such distant future would be laughing his ass off right about now.
RHIZOMES
14th July 2008, 02:43
Can't wait for that date, then I can laugh at everyone who believed it.
xAtlasx
14th July 2008, 02:43
The mayan cosmology was cyclical, so the mayan believed that a new cycle in existence would begin, but will anything "Earth Shattering" happen? I highly doubt it...
Bright Banana Beard
14th July 2008, 04:08
People forget that the Maya calendar is cyclic, i.e. the end of one cycle ends to begin another. Apocalyptism exists only in the Abrahamic (and Norse) traditions.
Of course, their interpretation of time is different from our interpretation. They believe the time is in cycle, while we believed it the straight line.
Charliesoo
14th July 2008, 04:42
Those that believe in this supernatural junk are sadly mistaken. For those that are so mystified by that date - I'd love to see their faces on December 22, 2012.
Comrade B
14th July 2008, 07:15
The rapture,
1000 AD
2000 AD
2012 AD
People love to think their generation is the most important....
eyedrop
14th July 2008, 20:10
People forget that the Maya calendar is cyclic, i.e. the end of one cycle ends to begin another. Apocalyptism exists only in the Abrahamic (and Norse) traditions.
The mayans have already had their apocalypse, ie when Europe came.
脩贸Ẋ卯枚ʼn
14th July 2008, 20:14
The rapture,
1000 AD
2000 AD
2012 AD
People love to think their generation is the most important....
Quite so. Hence the self-important crowing by capitalist ideologues over "the end of History" and similar nonsense.
Kronos
14th July 2008, 22:07
The mayans have already had their apocalypse, ie when Europe came.:laugh:
That would be Hern醤 Cort閟.
Bud Struggle
14th July 2008, 22:52
The mayans have already had their apocalypse, ie when Europe came.
Great post.
Unicorn
14th July 2008, 22:54
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n30/shadowyinzer/aw_jeez_not_this_shit_again2.jpg
Honggweilo
15th July 2008, 20:21
does anyone recall the armageddon on 6-06-2006? :rolleyes:
Comrade Rage
15th July 2008, 20:35
The Mayan guy who decided not to extend the calendar beyond 2012 because it was too much work and no one cared about such distant future would be laughing his ass off right about now.I've thought of that myself!
That's what I believe happened. This calendar was made quite some time back, and there is no scientific explanation to back up claims of apocalypse.
I started this poll to see who believes in this, since I know someone from here who does.
does anyone recall the armageddon on 6-06-2006? :rolleyes:
I did get a nasty ingrown toenail infection that day, but I guess that doesn't count.:lol:
superiority
18th July 2008, 08:04
Rundown of various apocalypses throughout history (http://www.abhota.info), for those who are interested.
Plagueround
18th July 2008, 23:48
does anyone recall the armageddon on 6-06-2006? :rolleyes:
My son was born on the 5th, so we were still at the hospital that day. You would not believe the number of people naming their kids Damien or something like that. :rolleyes: Then again, my son's name is Adrian, who was the Devil's son in Rosemary's Baby, so maybe I'm unintentionally guilty too. :lol:
mykittyhasaboner
19th July 2008, 00:18
i propose a new date for the apocalypse. it shall be July 18 2008. the ancient RevLeft religion says so.
Lost In Translation
19th July 2008, 01:15
i propose a new date for the apocalypse. it shall be July 18 2008. the ancient RevLeft religion says so.
You know, some people are already enjoying their saturdays.
[checks watch]
And I'm not one of them.
Decolonize The Left
20th July 2008, 09:19
You know, some people are already enjoying their saturdays.
[checks watch]
And I'm not one of them.
:lol:
- August
RHIZOMES
12th August 2008, 08:11
I guess the Mayans cares as much about 2012 as we care about the year 6050. :lol:
Killfacer
21st August 2008, 21:46
why are we even discussing this?
Bud Struggle
21st August 2008, 21:55
why are we even discussing this?
Because there really no difference in waiting for the Second Comming and waiting for the Revolution--and Communists enjoy discussing the Revolution. :)
maverick
21st August 2008, 22:02
No.
I don't feel I have to explain why either.
freakazoid
22nd August 2008, 00:58
I've thought of that myself!
That's what I believe happened. This calendar was made quite some time back, and there is no scientific explanation to back up claims of apocalypse.
Thats what I used to think, but then I learned that they had a real reason for that day.
revolution inaction
22nd August 2008, 10:34
Thats what I used to think, but then I learned that they had a real reason for that day.
Which is?
Dust Bunnies
22nd August 2008, 15:23
I voted for the underdog. The end of the world is relevant, for someone it will be their end of the world.
Bud Struggle
1st September 2008, 20:59
Which is?
You have to join the cult to find out! :lol:
Revolution 9
8th September 2008, 01:30
If the shit really hits the fan, I'll convert to whatever is the "correct" religion. :D
Socialist18
12th September 2008, 01:26
Its just more religious/spiritual mumbo jumbo to me.
redSHARP
30th September 2008, 04:10
aztec 1: yo bro what are you doing working so late?
aztec 2: i need to finish this calendar before the boss shows up tommorow.
aztec 1: that sucks and no over time! yo fuck him! lets start an organization, like a union or something where we work together, that will pay us overtime.
aztec 2: yeah lets do it...
so the calendar company headquarters closed down the organized plant and the calendars after 2012 were never made.
so beyond the clearly union bias (:thumbup:), that whole world ending thing is BULLSHIT!!
MarxSchmarx
14th October 2008, 06:29
aztec 1: yo bro what are you doing working so late?
aztec 2: i need to finish this calendar before the boss shows up tommorow.
aztec 1: that sucks and no over time! yo fuck him! lets start an organization, like a union or something where we work together, that will pay us overtime.
aztec 2: yeah lets do it...
Actually the date is attributed to the Mayan calendars.
Revy
14th October 2008, 06:39
aztec 1: yo bro what are you doing working so late?
aztec 2: i need to finish this calendar before the boss shows up tommorow.
aztec 1: that sucks and no over time! yo fuck him! lets start an organization, like a union or something where we work together, that will pay us overtime.
aztec 2: yeah lets do it...
so the calendar company headquarters closed down the organized plant and the calendars after 2012 were never made.
so beyond the clearly union bias (:thumbup:), that whole world ending thing is BULLSHIT!!
It was the Mayans, actually....:rolleyes:
choff
15th October 2008, 20:42
Most Mayan texts define ends as "new beginnings" and all that optimistic mumbo-jumbo. Even if 21-12-2012 held some supernatural significance (which I personally don't believe), it's likely that it would be some new large-scale human Enlightenment or second Renaissance.
As it has been said before, people love thinking their generation is going to be the one to see brimstone crash down from the heavens, and California to break away from mainland US and go chill out in the Pacific. This date is about as significant as the aforementioned 6-6-2006, 1-1-1666, or 15-10-2008. :):)
Trystan
15th October 2008, 20:46
I will probably spend my day buying Christmas presents. But hopefully the aliens who will be landing would have reached a stage of material abundance and I won't lose much money.
cleef
17th October 2008, 13:42
i swear its just to do with astronomy and how the ancients watched the stars...
they didnt state that dec 21st was the day of armageddon but rather a move from the age of pisces into aquarius?
doesnt mean anything supernatural is going to happen :confused:
Vargha Poralli
22nd October 2008, 01:17
The mayans have already had their apocalypse, ie when Europe came.
Mayas disappeared even before that.
It was Aztecs in Mexico and Incas in Peru who gaced the brutality of the Spanish
Vahanian
22nd October 2008, 01:43
i vote no but i guess nostradamus prediced it as the end of the world too.:confused:
AnthArmo
1st November 2008, 14:07
I usually don't belive in this crap,but I said yes anyways, partially for laughs.
My logic is, we're witnessing capitalism collapsing as we know it. It won't be long until the living standards of the proletariat collapse. youth in japan and Germany are already beggining to turn to marxism, it's not too implausible to think that on 2012 a worldwide Communist Revolution will occour. It may seem improbable, but hey! people said that a black person couldn't turn white, and look what micheal jackson did! :D
Besides, the timing seems about right :closedeyes:....
F9
1st November 2008, 14:29
could a mod make this public please?I am very interested seeing who believe this kind of thinks!:lol:
Fuserg9:star:
Bud Struggle
1st November 2008, 22:25
but hey! people said that a black person couldn't turn white, and look what micheal jackson did! :D
Besides, the timing seems about right :closedeyes:....
And Obama's not far behind. :D
tehpevis
2nd November 2008, 06:23
I was in a hippie bookstore in Santa Fe, NM last summer called "The Ark" (It smelled of incense and weed... took awhile for the smell to wash off my shirt) & there was a book called "How to survive 2012"
You can probably guess what it was like:
the guy that wrote is was. A fucking. CRACKPOT!
He was giving advice in it like "Urine makes good Fertilizer" & suggestiong that post-apocalyptic civilization will be based in antarctica & should revert back to archaic, Pharaoh-esque Dynastic Monarchies.
He also devoted an entire chapter to Fruit & Vegetable adds, & why he (as a vegitarian) is vastly superior to most people, & we should all follow suit.
Also refered to "the tragic rise of Godless Communism" several times.
anyway, I think that in that year, MAYBE, the beginnings of a Worldwide Proletarian Revolution will start. Not much else.
My uncle in LA thinks that it's pure bullshit & the glorious Alien messiahs really came in 1935 or so (seriously)
My mom thinks that, after december 21, 2012, Amerika will stop being a nation of fat, consumerist Bastards & slowly transform into a worldwide Utopia
Bud Struggle
2nd November 2008, 13:42
Of course, maybe they're right and 2012 will be the end of the world. :)
Palin in 2012?
Oct 31, 2008 04:30 AM
Associated Press
Supporters of vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin are talking her up as a possible contender in 2012, speculation that irritates other Republicans who contend she's a drag on the ticket.
The Alaska governor fuelled the discussion this week when she signalled she will remain on the national political scene no matter what happens Tuesday. "I'm not doing this for naught," she told ABC News.
http://www.thestar.com/News/USElection/article/527916
:cool::lol:
freakazoid
3rd November 2008, 04:14
He was giving advice in it like "Urine makes good Fertilizer" & suggestiong that post-apocalyptic civilization will be based in antarctica & should revert back to archaic, Pharaoh-esque Dynastic Monarchies.
Well urine does make good fertilizer, but what the hell on the other part, :confused:
Amerika will stop being a nation of fat, consumerist Bastards & slowly transform into a worldwide Utopia
So we succeed in 2012, sweet, :D
tehpevis
3rd November 2008, 14:06
Well urine does make good fertilizer, but what the hell on the other part, :confused:
Urine only makes good fertilizer when diluted in water for a few weeks, but still lol
ev
12th November 2008, 07:07
Remember the whole Y2K scare, people thought that someone would hit y2k in their computer and plans would fall out of the sky and nuclear warheads would be launched at Russia starting WWIII. Actually there were a lot of theories of what would happen like critical infrastructure would cease to work due to electronic date malifunctions.. There was alot of stuff circulating around alot of governments wasted money, it's estimated around 300 Billion US dollars were spent on preperations for the Y2K event.. sigh* I hope similar shit doesn't happen in preperation for nothing..
pusher robot
12th November 2008, 14:34
Remember the whole Y2K scare, people thought that someone would hit y2k in their computer and plans would fall out of the sky and nuclear warheads would be launched at Russia starting WWIII. Actually there were a lot of theories of what would happen like critical infrastructure would cease to work due to electronic date malifunctions.. There was alot of stuff circulating around alot of governments wasted money, it's estimated around 300 Billion US dollars were spent on preperations for the Y2K event.. sigh* I hope similar shit doesn't happen in preperation for nothing..
That's a funny kind of logic:
1. A big problem was anticipated.
2. A lot of time and money was spent to prevent it
3. The anticipated problem didn't happen.
4. Therefore, it was a waste to fix the problem?
Wouldn't it be more logical to conclude:
4. Therefore, the fix was successful and worth the cost.
Killfacer
12th November 2008, 15:04
No it wouldn't.
Random Precision
12th November 2008, 20:15
Ultra-Violence, please don't spam, or for that matter post at all while in an altered state of consciousness. Consider this a verbal warning.
Ultra-Violence
13th November 2008, 04:44
Dude i wasnt even high or anything im talking about 2012 im tlaking about the subject the mayans belived we would reach universal consoiusness look it up man they believed we were first cells and we first went into cellular concoiusness followed by animal and so on etc... till now were the in their mesuarment of time is going at a much faster rate till 2012 when They believed we would reach Universal Conscoiusness I.E a hieghtend state of awareness LOOK IT up man wtf
Decolonize The Left
16th November 2008, 00:45
Dude i wasnt even high or anything im talking about 2012 im tlaking about the subject the mayans belived we would reach universal consoiusness look it up man they believed we were first cells and we first went into cellular concoiusness followed by animal and so on etc... till now were the in their mesuarment of time is going at a much faster rate till 2012 when They believed we would reach Universal Conscoiusness I.E a hieghtend state of awareness LOOK IT up man wtf
Ok...
Many people have believed many things... people used to think the sky was a glass sphere... is it? Are you sure? Did you look it up?
Seriously man.
- August
Revy
29th November 2008, 18:51
Well, I believe that the ones promoting 2012 as fanatically as the New Age crowd will be the religious nuts.
Usually they go for arbitrary made up dates, and hope something happens to validate it:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/42/1992_Rapture.jpg
But they're most happy when a date arrives pre-packaged for them (like January 1, 2000)
D贸chas
29th November 2008, 22:23
man those guys are way off the global warming will finsh us off way before 2012!!! :lol:
scarletghoul
29th November 2008, 22:39
I've a feeling 'global warming' will fade from public consiousness with the 'war on terror' eventually.
D贸chas
29th November 2008, 22:50
I've a feeling 'global warming' will fade from public consiousness with the 'war on terror' eventually.
what will take their place?
Black Sheep
30th November 2008, 09:48
Mayas?
Maybe at 2012 alien spanish conquistadores will invade mother earth
Tatarin
10th December 2008, 05:22
Did anyone know that, apparently, there are two outcomes on this 2012 thing? Either it will be very bad, or it will actually be very good - in fact, humanity will live 5000 years in a new golden age! :tt1:
Bah, who cares. I'll probably run around like a madman and look for Christmas presents just like every other damn December 21/22....
Vlad tdf
10th December 2008, 16:13
well let's talk about this in 2013 :rolleyes: religion ... whatever it's all a lie why should this be true ?
tehpevis
10th December 2008, 21:54
Alot of my friends believe this (& I used to), just most of them think it will be the year of Capitalism's collapse instead of the End of the World
lol my cousin Brad once thought the Rapture was happening when he lost his cell phone reception during a Thunderstorm
Dimentio
10th December 2008, 22:03
WALLA WALLA!
The end is near! Repent from your sins!
Give me all your worldly possessions and be saved!
The Messiah is coming! Everything will be nice and fine. Now, give me your money. :D
Brother No. 1
23rd December 2008, 21:55
Well this thread will talk about our galaxy and what will really happen on 2012. You see comrades in every or most galaxy there is a black hole that creates the gravitation of the galaxy our solaer system with the other ones goes like in a swrive line that goes up and down now i think what will happen on 2012 is that we will enter the gravitation of this black hole and the nature of the planet will go crazy form hot to cold and dry to wet and this will be hard for the human race for if you dont know the litttle ice age from 1800s to 1900s that a little change in weather can destroy us. so what sre your thoughts to what I,ve just said and your possible soultions
脩贸Ẋ卯枚ʼn
23rd December 2008, 23:29
Are you doing this on purpose? This belongs in Religion.
Brother No. 1
23rd December 2008, 23:31
ok sorry for that
Hit The North
24th December 2008, 10:46
Is it the sheer gibberish of the OP which means this is fit for religion?
Hammer_Sickle_Revolution
24th December 2008, 16:31
Where is the scientific evidence for these claims?
Brother No. 1
24th December 2008, 17:03
does everyone have a negative impact on the question and so whats your claim what do you think is in the center of our galaxy
Sentinel
24th December 2008, 17:39
does everyone have a negative impact on the question and so whats your claim what do you think is in the center of our galaxy
Hammer Sickle Revolution asked a very valid question, could you please answer him/her? Ie, are you basing your assertions on some scientific evidence, or did you just make them up or perhaps hear them from some conman?
Either start adressing people's posts and debate the topic, or this will be considered trolling and go into the trashcan. Consider this a verbal warning.
Brother No. 1
24th December 2008, 17:49
Scienceticf evedice comrade sorry ok the Secintfic clamis are that as we know the black holes have a gravtational pull that light cant escape these black holes however have the graivtaional pull that makes the solar sytems go around the black hole not into it and our solar sytem,this is what i found on history channel and wikipedia, goes in a motion that goes up and down like on a chart and on 2012 sicentist think at that time scince most galaxies are flat and cirular we will have contact with this pull and this pull may interfir with our climate sending spiraling in all dirctions that is my scientifc theroy and evedice comrade and again Sorry
Sam_b
24th December 2008, 17:55
If you have sources, why don't you link them?
And make posts that can be read.
Brother No. 1
24th December 2008, 17:57
Dont know how
D贸chas
24th December 2008, 18:10
just coppy and paste links to the sites with the info
Brother No. 1
24th December 2008, 18:12
ok comrade I'll do it
Bud Struggle
24th December 2008, 18:14
I kinda think Polish Soviet is a youngish non English-as-a-first-language kind of guy. You might cut him some slack.
Up to you.
Brother No. 1
24th December 2008, 18:22
http://Link.history.com
Brother No. 1
24th December 2008, 18:28
and my proof black holes are in galaxies go History Channel The universe and select black holes
Brother No. 1
24th December 2008, 18:50
well no so weird things will happen but not supernatural or it just be a normal day no one knows yet
Hammer_Sickle_Revolution
24th December 2008, 19:21
Scienceticf evedice comrade sorry ok the Secintfic clamis are that as we know the black holes have a gravtational pull that light cant escape these black holes however have the graivtaional pull that makes the solar sytems go around the black hole not into it and our solar sytem,this is what i found on history channel and wikipedia, goes in a motion that goes up and down like on a chart and on 2012 sicentist think at that time scince most galaxies are flat and cirular we will have contact with this pull and this pull may interfir with our climate sending spiraling in all dirctions that is my scientifc theroy and evedice comrade and again Sorry
There are many ideas about December 21st 2012, and like the year 2000, the only reason there are stories of the world ending is because the numbers look important to us. We see patterns in everything, and it is not just coincidence, in fact it can be explained by biology. In the wild, animals need the skill of seeing patterns, I'll use the example of finding food. We may remember over time that a particular beneficial food can only be found when a certain tree is present in the area. As animals, we also have this ability, and this may explain as to why humans sometimes turn coincidences into things such as astrology and conspiracy theories.
The vast majority of scientists do not accept these end of the world stories. They have no evidence, and rely on changing the facts slightly to make it seem true. The nearest black-hole, Cygnus X-1, is 6000 light years away, the centre of the galaxy is 26000 light years away. That's a lot longer than the 4 years until 2012!
Other black hole myths, like Nibiru, just aren't real, Nibiru doesn't even exist. Real science, and real physics are far more interesting than these myths.
Hammer_Sickle_Revolution
24th December 2008, 19:23
well no so weird things will happen but not supernatural or it just be a normal day no one knows yet
Science isn't concerned with belief without evidence and the supernatural - there is just no evidence that any of the 2012 myths will come true. Not one piece.
Brother No. 1
24th December 2008, 19:31
true comrade very true you are right definatly right Comrade
Hammer_Sickle_Revolution
24th December 2008, 19:35
true comrade very true you are right definatly right Comrade
Glad to have been able to help. :)
Sentinel
24th December 2008, 19:43
and my proof black holes are in galaxies go History Channel The universe and select black holes
Yes, black holes existing is common knowledge. I'm also aware of the theory that there is a gigantic one in the center of the galaxy, and that the galaxy has formed around it.
What I'm utterly sceptical towards, however, is the assertion that it will suddenly interfere on the climate of earth, and that mankind might get wiped out as a result, in three years from now.
By the way, your link isn't working. The page it leads to says 'Http/1.1 Service Unavailable'.
Brother No. 1
24th December 2008, 19:47
not wiped out but maybe hurt by it and I'm sorry about the link I dont know whats wrong with it
tehpevis
25th December 2008, 08:29
Are you doing this on purpose? This belongs in Religion.
this belongs in Unbelievable Natural Disasters.
Now, if we can just make that an actual category...
tehpevis
25th December 2008, 08:44
What I'm utterly sceptical towards, however, is the assertion that it will suddenly interfere on the climate of earth, and that mankind might get wiped out as a result, in three years from now.
Supposedly, there will be an alignment of various solar systems (including our own) pointing directly to this said massive black hole, which will act as a kind-of "Amplifier" for it's gravitational force.
I still don't believe it because then, Gravity would have to be some kind of force that moves several thousand, if not million, times faster than the Speed of Light. Actually... make that Billion
I've also heard theories that a Solar Wind of Electrical Energy will cause a pole shift, but I fail to see the logic in it. After all, the person who wrote the book it was in claimed to know of an "Ancient Egyptian Doomsday Calendar in the form of a Maze", & thought that Atlantis was descended from an even older civilization based in Antarctica(:laugh:)... so, Obviously a Crackpot. Also mentioned the "Unfortunate rise of Godless Communism" several times in one chapter.
I posted about this book earlier, but I'm too lazy to go find the posts now :D
ashaman1324
26th December 2008, 07:38
also the mayan calendar has 3 tiers marking important cultural events also.
perhaps 2012 would have been an important cultural year instead of a doomsday year?
thats what im inclined to believe.
the capitalist world will end in 2012. jesus and shiva will give us all a communist revolution with the anarchists getting about half the world and we can just sit here and wait for it to happen:lol:
Brother No. 1
26th December 2008, 17:05
true comrade we just have to wait untill 2012 to see what happens
tehpevis
26th December 2008, 18:32
the Aztecs believed that the world would end every 50 years (it didn't) & start over on a new cycle
the Mayans had a lot more sophisticated Mathematics to base the Calendar off of, & have predicted astronomical events i.e. Solar Eclipses very accurately. So I think SOMETHING is going to happen around the date of 12/21/2012, just not the catastrophic collapse of Civilization... probably the alignment I stated earlier. Let's all hope that its the date of International Worker's Revolution, though :D
Orange Juche
27th December 2008, 05:43
I just can't wait until Jan 1, 2013 so I can laugh at everyone who thinks something is going to happen.
danyboy27
29th December 2008, 21:10
there will be no end in the world in 2012, mainly beccause of the big electron collider gonna swallow us all in a giant black hole once it will be fixed.
Pirate Utopian
29th December 2008, 21:22
Phew. I was getting worried.
Sprocket Hole
29th December 2008, 21:33
there will be no end in the world in 2012, mainly beccause of the big electron collider gonna swallow us all in a giant black hole once it will be fixed.
That's a relief.
There was a girl who started crying at my school when the chemist teatcher told her about the Large Hidron Collider, when the first built it up.
tehpevis
2nd January 2009, 04:30
There was a girl who started crying at my school when the chemist teatcher told her about the Large Hidron Collider, when the first built it up.
Jeebus Christ, people actually BELIEVE that it'll swallow up the world?
FuckYoCouch
4th January 2009, 16:41
there are People that actually believe some of these things because of false scientific information
Killfacer
4th January 2009, 16:54
(edit) i wrote some bullshit which was a bit flamey.
Pirate turtle the 11th
4th January 2009, 20:30
there are People that actually believe some of these things because of false scientific information
Or because people listen to the kid at the back of the class who yells "we're all going to die!" more then the teacher who says "its quite safe really"
脩贸Ẋ卯枚ʼn
4th January 2009, 20:45
there are People that actually believe some of these things because of false scientific information
Such as?
OneNamedNameLess
4th January 2009, 20:50
Maybe the Aztecs ran out of ink :lol:
progressive_lefty
4th January 2009, 20:52
It's funny, because when it DOESN't happen, they'll come up with some stupid explanation.
OneNamedNameLess
4th January 2009, 21:15
Remember rhe whole 6/6/06 thing when the world was supposed to end?
Maybe it has been mentioned.
Phalanx
5th January 2009, 04:56
No, I'm in denial and afraid of what might happen!:scared:
FuckYoCouch
5th January 2009, 11:01
Such as?
planet x, numerous retard baptist ministers, etc etc >.<
Dyslexia! Well I Never!
5th January 2009, 19:44
I expect something genuinely astounding to happen on the 21st of December 2012.
Something that has never occured in the history of the material universe, something so astoundingly breathtaking that the very earth will shatter into twenty three million and six pieces and spear off into planets billions of light years away at speeds approaching that of a mongoose that is on fire.
The Sun will turn purple and do the hokey cokey while singing bob dylan songs in a guiness top hat once and for all proving that guiness is in fact a import from the outer reaches of the universe and is darkened with extract of dark matter.
My friend Helena will be 26... Yeah, kinda anticlimatic... oh well.
No nothing will happen it will be a perfectly normal day. If it isn't I will give away 1% of the net worth of all my lifesavings to Jazzratt... who having no use for an amount of money smaller than the lowest denomination coinage accepted as tender in this country will probably be inclined not to care one jot. Much like me about the date in question.
PigmerikanMao
6th January 2009, 01:44
Face killer is right- the whole concept that the world will end just because some damn Mayans got lazy is, in its entirety, laughable.
Patchd
6th January 2009, 01:58
Illuminati conspiracists believe in the end of the world in 2012 too, they also believe that the Illuminati were responsible for the destruction of the South American native civilisations, and that it was connected to their calendars. *sigh*
I voted no.
Sprocket Hole
6th January 2009, 02:30
Doomsday prophecy's sell. People will buy much more when they believe that their life is on line, and buying that "2012 Survival Guide" just might save their life..
Anyways, a program ran on the History Channel last night, something along the lines of Nostradamus's lost book predicting 2012 to be our doomsday. I fell asleep half way through, but what I did watch was entirely one sided. Every "expert" they had talking on the subject had written a book detailing our demise in 2012. IMO, it's like asking a Christian if God existed, or if Evolution is untrue. Also what many people fail to listen to in the program is every sentance of the whole damn program begins with "It is believed" or something to that affect.
You know the book they spoke of is only "believed" to be the work of Nostadomus anyways? There is quite a bit of evidence supporting that he could not have been responsible for the artwork in it, and that his signiture in the Lost Book is not truely his. Also another funny thing, every person who interpreted the drawings in the book, were "experts" on 2012 doomsday, and whole heartedly believe we are in for it.
Also another thing that made me mad about the program, is these people talking about this "domino effect" of wars, famine, economic collapse, oppressive regimes, natral disasters skyrocketing, climate instability, and etc.. ultimitly peaking on said armageddon.
They talk of it all as inevitable, our fault, and so on. When it can all be blamed on the Capitalist system. How it is inevitable, encourages people to passivley let their world go to shit, and not do anything about it (esspecially those awaiting the 2nd coming of Jesus to save them from their mess, instead of realizing it is not entirely their fault and fixing it)....
That unpredictadly evolved into a rant. :cursing:
Killfacer
6th January 2009, 12:59
Face killer is right- the whole concept that the world will end just because some damn Mayans got lazy is, in its entirety, laughable.
FACE KILLER!!?!?!?!?!?! KILLFACER
I wish people would stop doing that :crying:
piet11111
10th January 2009, 18:59
zombies will walk the earth and it will be awesome :lol:
oh wait not chit chat sorry.
perhaps some stars will assume some position that was special to the mayans or some other astronomical thing nothing that would have an actual effect on us.
redguard2009
13th January 2009, 00:53
Yeah, it's not like he could've continued making this calender for all of infinity. I'm sure the old guy had to die or something eventually.
#FF0000
13th January 2009, 01:01
Isn't the Mayan calendar a circle anyway?
tehpevis
13th January 2009, 02:56
Isn't the Mayan calendar a circle anyway?
mmhm. So, I guess it does go on for infinity, probably
Decolonize The Left
22nd January 2009, 00:07
Isn't the Mayan calendar a circle anyway?
As far as I understand, it simply ends in 2012. This could mean is restarts, it could mean the folks who were making it were eaten by carnivorous jungle monkeys, it could mean that they just got tired...
- August
Vahanian
25th January 2009, 22:42
And this one it is specially asociated with that in 6 of june 2006 antichrist was born,now at 12/12 of 2012 the world will end!
so the anti christ will destroy us and he will be six? lol:laugh:
Brother No. 1
25th January 2009, 22:56
Can you prove that the "anti-christ" is here or even real.
iraqnevercalledmenigger
25th January 2009, 22:57
I voted yes. Because supernatural is really the only way one will be able to describe my bday party that year!
Vahanian
26th January 2009, 01:10
Can you prove that the "anti-christ" is here or even real.
hey sparky it was a joke calm down
Brother No. 1
26th January 2009, 01:33
it was just a question Comrade.
danyboy27
1st February 2009, 04:07
As far as I understand, it simply ends in 2012. This could mean is restarts, it could mean the folks who were making it were eaten by carnivorous jungle monkeys, it could mean that they just got tired...
- August
that was probably the date when all the womens of the city where ovulating at the same time, for the sake of the mayan civilization, a huuge orgy was planned.
in january 2012, everybody shall plant their seed!
脩贸Ẋ卯枚ʼn
1st February 2009, 14:38
that was probably the date when all the womens of the city where ovulating at the same time, for the sake of the mayan civilization, a huuge orgy was planned.
in january 2012, everybody shall plant their seed!
We're not interested in your sexual fantasies.
danyboy27
1st February 2009, 21:01
We're not interested in your sexual fantasies.
tanks you sgt.buzzkill
Comrade Anarchist
6th February 2009, 23:34
the plants will align near that date which may cause the poles to shift which would have dire consequences for all life on earth but personally i think we will be fine untill 2029 when an asteroid comes close enough to earth where it might be attracted by our gravity.
Glorious Union
6th February 2009, 23:42
The revolution! The Mayans predicted the revolution to be on that day, and it will be the end of the world for capitalist dogs and fascist pigs!
Ephydriad
8th February 2009, 22:24
The world is going to end because Sarah Palin is going to run for president...
Killfacer
8th February 2009, 22:27
that was probably the date when all the womens of the city where ovulating at the same time, for the sake of the mayan civilization, a huuge orgy was planned.
in january 2012, everybody shall plant their seed!
This sounds brilliant.
NecroCommie
17th February 2009, 18:10
I would not base anything on the aztec profets. They predicted the end of the world every tuesday, and every alternative monday.
Bitter Ashes
24th February 2009, 16:34
There was a kid I went to school with who believed that giant space lizards were going to invade, from underground, in 2012. He was in a padded room before he was 18. The rumour was that he'd tried to stab somebody on a train because he thought they had a dragon on thier lap.
Pogue
24th February 2009, 16:39
There was a kid I went to school with who believed that giant space lizards were going to invade, from underground, in 2012. He was in a padded room before he was 18. The rumour was that he'd tried to stab somebody on a train because he thought they had a dragon on thier lap.
How do you believe something like that?
Bitter Ashes
24th February 2009, 16:46
He turned out to be a paranoid skitzophrenic. :(
The whole giant space lizard thing though he really did believe it as if it were the most certain thing ever in his life. I remember him trying to tell me and one of my friends that the space lizards had infiltrated the Royal Family and were posing as them. Absolutly no evidence of course, but he was totaly adamant.
piet11111
2nd March 2009, 00:26
I remember him trying to tell me and one of my friends that the space lizards had infiltrated the Royal Family and were posing as them.
i can see the confusion seeing that the british queen looks remarkably similar to a shriveled up old lizard if you ask me.
only lizards are much preferable over royalty.
political_animal
4th March 2009, 19:34
All total bollocks of course. Has anyone mentioned 1977? Just reading a book about punk at the mo and (I think it's rastafarian but correct me if I'm wrong) there was a belief about the end of the world "when the two seven's clash". And then there was the new millenium when, oh, er, nothing happened.
Still I'm looking forward to 2012, the second part of the doomsday book trilogy has been a long time coming ;)
Some Red Guy
4th March 2009, 20:55
Just like the 2000 thing, nothing's gonna happen. The Mayan calendre doesn't say the end of the world, but the end of the age, or something like that.
Comrade B
8th March 2009, 03:25
Anyone that believes this willing to make a bet with me? If you are not dead by January 2nd, 2012, you will drink a bucket of your own piss.
If I lose, I will die.
Deal?
Killfacer
9th March 2009, 16:17
For a thread in which pretty much 99% of people say "what bullshit", this sure has gone on.
Picky Bugger
9th March 2009, 16:30
For a thread in which pretty much 99% of people say "what bullshit", this sure has gone on.
What Bullshit...
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