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nobullshit
12th July 2008, 02:18
I was browsing through certain articles on the internet about communism as I am very much interested in the subject. To say the very least it was not exactly the easiest topic to research on: you guys got all sorts of confusing lango that for the most part the common woring man you so righteously claim to be representing would not understand nor car for.
Terms like "bourgeoisie", "proletariat", and other such terms that has origins tracing back to 19th century Europe during and age when industrialism widely swept through the continent. Some old Prussian guy lays back and wonders how he can create an economic theory that'll shock society with inevident class antagonisms and lead to civil strife that continues to shock the world.
Don't get me wrong - I am no self-certified capitalist at all. Rather, I am independent: people should be free to do what they want in life, whether it be work in a factory as a wage slave for next to nothing or live in a commune where everything is divided up equally amongst the "comrades".
I come from a small town in Tennessee about an hour north of Memphis. I grew up on rural territory, on farmland, where the true attitude of Americans is quite evident wherever you meet one of its fine town citizens. Truly independent, distrustful of the government and just as much so as the corporations driving out the mom-and-pop shops (I believe you guys call these shops "petit-bourgeois"). But despite the independence we so enjoy so much, they continue to work hard regardless of the amount they receive on their check or how much it gets them steamed that they're paying huge taxes to their federal government that have done jack shit for them.
I now live in Indianapolis, where I work. I have a family that includes a wife and three very beautiful children. To say the least, my life is going great. But this is of course not the case for the so many more unfortunate ones in the world who sleep at night with an empty stomach, malnourished, unsure if the next day they will be killed, raped, stolen, or just dead from starvation.
Communists propose solutions to these hardcore problems that continue to plague the third world. There are your communists who say "command economy", anarchists who say "gift economy", and your social democrats that say "reform".
But as for the working man in America and around the globe, how do you expect them to support you and your mission? A propaganda campaign? Encouraging the workers to attend education rallies? Increasing education among the revolutionary youth? Because you guys sure aren't pulling them into your little movement with your infighting, your usage of archaic lingo from centuries past, or even your denying your own proclaimed communist countries such as China as being communist.
I am here on revleft to learn. Hopefully you guys can see that and not be too harsh. But these are serious questions.

Thanks.
-Paul

Pogue
12th July 2008, 02:27
Welcome, you seem cool, I like you, you have valid criticisms, such as the in fighting and jargon ones.

nobullshit
12th July 2008, 02:35
H-L-V-S, thanks for your kind words. In my own way my criticisms aren't really criticisms at all. Criticism as a word would suggest that I'm criticizing the leftist movements so that they can in affect improve themselves, which is not at all what I would say I'm doing. Rather, these are observations I have made during my time on researching these movements, discovering the sectarian divides of Marx and Bakunin and tracing them up to a point where the communists yell from one line, "Anarcho-shitheads!" and the opposing anarchists yell in return, "Leninist murdering fuckheads!"
Well, I've not really seen these things happen. But in reality it is what goes on. Now I am not suggesting that all the anarchists and communists should suddenly compromise and come together or something. However we should note that too much infighting in a movement with the same goal can impact its ideological roots and thus destroy any compromise and working together that could be possible.

Pogue
12th July 2008, 02:37
I agree wholeheartedly with the last few sentences :D

Bright Banana Beard
12th July 2008, 04:13
You should post this in learning section, since few people will visit the introduction, but welcome!

Malakangga
12th July 2008, 05:33
yes,Black Rifle was right. welcome here,comrade

KrazyRabidSheep
13th July 2008, 19:18
I have often considered that one problem with some fellow communists is their reluctance to update their language and theories. Sometimes a "communist" who uses such lingo really doesn't understand what they are saying, and just parroting something they read earlier.

If you can tolerate (or avoid) the theorists who refuse (or are unable to) put said theories into practice, and avoid the hero-worshipers, you should have a good time here; not all of us are stuck in the 19th century.