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AntifaUSA
10th July 2008, 19:05
see my signature

RedAnarchist
10th July 2008, 19:11
Good site.

Welcome to RevLeft, by the way.:)

AntifaUSA
10th July 2008, 19:38
Thanks

OI OI OI
11th July 2008, 02:16
hey man if it is your site put contact so we can send info about other nazis
I have info for one nazi user and I think comrades from Toronto should know about him.
(He lives in Toronto)
So anyways if you are the admin of the site pm me so i can give you info.


PS: I really think that a naziwatch site would be a good idea(As a response to Red Watch)

Lost In Translation
11th July 2008, 02:17
Great site...Who knew you could do so much with a webpage with Freewebs... :D

AntifaUSA
11th July 2008, 03:08
OI OI OI

Good idea. I'm not the admin of the site but I will get in contact with him and tell him about your idea to put up a way to contact so we can expand the database of nazis on there. In the mean time you can send me the info in a pm and I'll relay it. Also there may be some improvements of the site coming soon including google map locations and screenshots of some of these nazis threats on youtube (some of them are quite violent, keyboard tuff guy types).

globalcommie94

Yep its pretty amazing what a useful tool those free websites are

AntifaUSA
18th July 2008, 16:19
Site updated with contact info and it would help if people here could mention it to others, spread it to other sites etc.

Holden Caulfield
18th July 2008, 18:38
good idea, even if it does just make them think twice when hiding behind anonimity to spread rascism and prejudices

Dr Mindbender
19th July 2008, 00:13
Armlak should be on there.

Segadoway
19th July 2008, 11:43
http://www.youtube.com/user/Craigyboiluvinlife
http://www.youtube.com/user/Triandcachme2
http://www.youtube.com/user/imtosexy11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFHJ2DmWysQ
http://www.youtube.com/user/rokr419
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheXEdd
http://www.youtube.com/user/poohdubs3
http://www.youtube.com/user/colaskater480
http://www.youtube.com/user/LoserTheGreat
http://www.youtube.com/user/froutman
http://www.youtube.com/user/skatedude258
hope this helps, pay special attention to this rokr419 guy he seems to have an unhealthy and frankly disturbing fixation on hitler.
oh and most of these i got from the video link, here it is again.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFHJ2DmWysQ

Malakangga
19th July 2008, 15:50
good site,comrade

Dr Mindbender
23rd July 2008, 19:36
keep an eye on this holocaust denying piece of shit

http://www.youtube.com/user/AbeEichmann

Holden Caulfield
23rd July 2008, 19:58
debating over youtube may not be completely futile, put your point across rather than fuck telling them to go and fuck themselves

Dr Mindbender
23rd July 2008, 20:05
debating over youtube may not be completely futile, put your point across rather than fuck telling them to go and fuck themselves
about as productive and fruitful as debating with them over stormfront.

99.9% of these people are hopelessly stuck in their ways and the only language they understand is a baseball bat to the face.

Holden Caulfield
23rd July 2008, 20:21
about as productive and fruitful as debating with them over stormfront.

99.9% of these people are hopelessly stuck in their ways and the only language they understand is a baseball bat to the face.

i didnt say it would be anything great, but if it exposes their own lack of any knowledge of ideas to back up their views then it isn't all useless if non-partisan people read the comments,

i have argued with cappies over youtube and argued for a Connolly-esque approach in regards to Irish republicanism on the many rebel tunes i like to listen to

Lector Malibu
24th July 2008, 08:59
about as productive and fruitful as debating with them over stormfront.

99.9% of these people are hopelessly stuck in their ways and the only language they understand is a baseball bat to the face.

This is true. However as long as that 1% may exist I feel it worth trying other means.

godfailed
24th July 2008, 16:58
about as productive and fruitful as debating with them over stormfront.

99.9% of these people are hopelessly stuck in their ways and the only language they understand is a baseball bat to the face.


stormfront is a clever little institution. started out as a place to 'enlighten' people with distorted facts and history taken out of context. then let people rant and ***** about their lives and their bad encounters. finally, create a common enemy to unleash their hate against. blame the jews for everything, the declining economy, worldwide terrorism, the long lines at the supermarket (literally). how can you possibly argue with them, when they have everything set up so nicely? it's like when someone has become so insane that when you forcefully tear apart their little world, they could break down and go into a sobbing fit.

Holden Caulfield
24th July 2008, 17:00
i agree in part with you, not to the same degree but still, but for those peering into the world of 'fringe' or 'street' politics we do need to put our side across no matter how futile it seems,

after all we do have the benafit of being right...

craigyboiluvinlife
29th July 2008, 11:22
hey,
Someone PMed me out the blue on youtube to say I had been listed in this thread as a nazi and although I have expressed such ideals in my less mature years I have been through the system due to those ideals and come out a better man.
I've come here to defend myself and also ask for what comments of mine have caused me to be labelled a nazi as I remember no such comments but hey, my memory's not the best.
I refuse to be labelled as a nazi after I have worked so hard to be rid of amongst my peers and the like since my run in with the police by strangers on some kind of holy mission bullshit and let it slide.
you're no worse than those you point fingers at.

Holden Caulfield
29th July 2008, 11:38
hey,
Someone PMed me out the blue on youtube to say I had been listed in this thread as a nazi and although I have expressed such ideals in my less mature years I have been through the system due to those ideals and come out a better man.
I've come here to defend myself and also ask for what comments of mine have caused me to be labelled a nazi as I remember no such comments but hey, my memory's not the best.
I refuse to be labelled as a nazi after I have worked so hard to be rid of amongst my peers and the like since my run in with the police by strangers on some kind of holy mission bullshit and let it slide.
you're no worse than those you point fingers at.

we are far better than nazis,
we do not discriminate, we are not prejudice, we do not think that anybody is beneath us, we no not base our ideals on prejudices and other such ideas,

what do you believe in now?

craigyboiluvinlife
29th July 2008, 22:18
I was referring to the aggressiveness towards those you dislike and the way in which the ideals of the left include being being tolerance of others beleifs and views unless its of those whose beliefs are politically different to yours (i.e. being intolerant of those who are intolerant)
On the other note, now I do not fly a particular label although I am still right leaning in the sense of being patriotic but I also bring in hints of leftist ideals in the sense of believing there is a bourgeoisie ruling us working class people and giving more power back to the ordinary working person.
I am proud to be British, working class and white. Just as I think any black Briton to feel the same about his colour and his nationality.
Its an odd political stance that is not really aligned to any particular part of the spectrum I have yet to come across but one I find quite common through people I know/meet (in England anyway) except for the bourgeoisie aspect.
I think its come about through being brought up as a very proud Briton and Englishman and living in a very white/racist area then when I got to 6th form (education 16-18) I took sociology where I learnt about Marxism, amongst other things, and its put forward a convincing argument but I was still right wing,. Then I started mixing with boys at school that were varying races although I still held the view that if we got a far right government I wouldn't be sad to see them deported or killed. Then as I spoke to my sociology teacher (a Marxist himself) more I started to draw away from it till I was arrested at a football game for racist abuse and saluting and the like which involved a life threatening night in hospital after swallowing a bag of coke to avoid being sent down for that.
After that I took a big step back and looked at things and pretty quickly my views shaped into what they are now

Holden Caulfield
30th July 2008, 10:29
you are intolerant, or were at least, for having judgements about people who are no different from you views that say they do not deserve the same benafits as you, views that say you are better than them.

they are a parasite in your view, i have talked to people with similar views as you and no matter how sugar coated you put it this is what it comes down to. The same way the Nazis blamed the Jews you blame/d the immigrants etc...

now if you do hold pro-working class views, tell me if you think that a growing population will damage an economy or boost it? and then try to take in that by hating the immigrants who are workers just the same as you, you are aiding the bosses in dividing the working classes, and allowing them to play each of these divisions against each other for their own personal profit,

i love where i live but i am not proud of lines on a map,

also if you think that we are just as bad for being intolerant then you are mistaken, if everybody was tolerant and equal then our ideology would work with out any violence, intolerances etc, if this occured with your ideology then immigrants, asylum seekers would still not be welcome.

We say all are equal and all workers should share wealth equally amongst themselves for the benafit of all (and ergo themselves). Our 'intolerance' (if you call it that) is as we will now stand by and allow prejudices against our comunities, and our race the human race.

an injury to one is an injury to all, in regards to workers; against all opressors and agressors,

Sasha
30th July 2008, 10:59
i love where i live but i am not proud of lines on a map,


i do, i'm an proud citizen of the future autonomus people replublic of amsterdam :laugh: and we we'll hapily trade some yuppies for some nice lefties from all over the world.
No seriously, ""craigyboiluvinlife" still sounds like a racist twat but i think there is/can be such a thing as "Pride without predjuidice" (like it said on the back of my jacket in my skinhead years). I do think that to much lefties do not regonise this enough (maybe we are to midle class?) wich hands good people over to the right.

Holden Caulfield
30th July 2008, 11:41
I do think that to much lefties do not regonise this enough (maybe we are to midle class?) wich hands good people over to the right.

its a fair point, but i love england the geographical/cultural area not the lines draw by the ruling classes,

P.s ill ask a global mod to restrict Craigy now that i herd what he has to say,

craigyboiluvinlife
30th July 2008, 12:19
Wait, where have I mentioned immigrants?
My position on immigrants is that provided they work and accept that in Britain we expect conformity to British laws over religious and other cultural laws (Some of you may know about there being some calls for Sharia law to be accepted in Britain) then I do not oppose them in the slightest. I believe immigration becomes a problem when the propaganda that the far right has always spread starts to be seen as a bold reality.
I know people that have been chased by gangs of Kosovans and Albanians(think it was Albanians) over a rucksack but have never had a find chased by a group of Indians or Polish.
The polish are well known here for working their asses of. I've worked with a Pole before and he was cushty. Didn't go much on the combats boots he wore for site work but I wasn't go to tell him because he was slightly of his rocker lol.
Now back on topic. You have looked upon my pride in my country as an instant admittance of me being racist. As psycho said, there can be pride without prejudice. My world has changed in just a few months and it would be very difficult for me to get by if I was really a racist. It is naive to say that the two are inseparable otherwise how would the bloke who coaches my football team (a black man) be able to be proud to have Jamaican ancestry, be proud to be British and sit and smoke a spliff with me since I'm white?
(psycho, maybe you could tell me more about Amsterdam as I'm currently saving the money to go there myself which will take a while as there's little work for me at the moment and I'm going to have to quit when I go to college in September)

Dr Mindbender
30th July 2008, 12:49
You have looked upon my pride in my country as an instant admittance of me being racist.

you said you were proud to be 'white'. We have a zero tolerance policy on this board regarding race pride.

craigyboiluvinlife
30th July 2008, 13:13
you said you were proud to be 'white'. We have a zero tolerance policy on this board regarding race pride.
Just as many black people are proud to be black, and Asians to be Asian etc.
I'm sure that Will Smith isn't racist but he's proud of his colour. I'm sure MLK wasn't racist but iirc he was proud of his skin.

Dr Mindbender
30th July 2008, 13:23
Just as many black people are proud to be black, and Asians to be Asian etc.
its different when you're referring to a majority hegemony.

Personally i think racial pride of any flavour is ridiculous but all the more so when it comes from the more privileged.



I'm sure that Will Smith isn't racist but he's proud of his colour. I'm sure MLK wasn't racist but iirc he was proud of his skin.
if i had 200 years of slavery and oppression as part of my heritage i'd probably feel quite sentimental about it too...

...oh wait i'm irish. Yay!

Mindtoaster
1st August 2008, 04:49
And heres some conspiracy theorists I ran across on YouTube who were praising Hitler...

Jimderkaisser
Nitrous

Honestly, I knew these NWO conspiracy theorists were nuts and anti-left, but not this bad!

Look at their comments on this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVpt96s9pHY

Holden Caulfield
1st August 2008, 10:49
I'm sure that Will Smith isn't racist


how dare you bring Will Smith into this!!



Honestly, I knew these NWO conspiracy theorists were nuts and anti-left, but not this bad!

Look at their comments on this video


they are all twats equally no matter how they try to hide their fascism and/or Nazism behind various arguements,
we do not discriminate.. they are all ****s

Dr Mindbender
12th August 2008, 10:40
heres another one -'Aryan crusader'

http://uk.youtube.com/user/AryanCrusaderIX

Ken
10th September 2008, 13:58
this is really disgusting reading this on a leftist forum. Holden Caulfield and Ulster Socialist what makes you think you have helped him? if anything you only hurt his pride and i wouldnt be surprised if he is filled with spite for the left right now. this is how you treat "nazi's"? single them out, embarass them, pedantically denounce their beliefs, woodenly deny them of any tolerance? you two are useless to the left. for all you know he could be organizing to get you both beat up right now. he came here with tolerance and respect, tried to defend and explain himself and you shot down his arguments with bullshit pedantry. is craigyboiluvinlife (http://www.revleft.com/vb/member.php?u=17207) banned now? he said himself he has changed over a few months and he was willing to talk. this is disgusting, you've shown him that tolerance for the left is futile and useless, and given him no reason to tolerate the left again.

is that what you're going to do with the rest of the people on the list? worst fucking idea ever.

Holden Caulfield
10th September 2008, 14:08
^ we dont think we have helped him, if he had stuck around and talked as a neutral individual we would have loved to try to talk him round, if he had stayed in the OI we would have loved to have talk him round, the fact is just because he doesn't salute his swastika anymore he still held deeply reactionary views,

why be proud to be white? i think what Ulster Socialsist said is bang on tbh, cant add much else to that one,

also this is 'revolutionary left' we are a forum for leftists, and we are not going to allow a fascist (perhaps in all but name) to use our forum as a platform from which to spit his vile views,

he can organise all he wants to get me beaten up, let his internet wars being for all i care there are far scarier fishes than him for me to worry about, i don't see fascists tolerating communists when they are in control or majority, i see them getting attacked at random...

Ken may i add i dont care what you think, most of what you post is bullshit, i hope if you get restricted you don't start "organizing to get you both beat up"

Pia Fidelis
11th September 2008, 00:59
deeply reactionary

I would argue that a good number of board members "leftist" views are just as "reactionary" as the average nazi. A knee-jerk reaction to capitalism is communism for a lot of people. I am not defending this guy who was banned, I am just speaking in general.

AntifaUSA
10th December 2008, 10:31
interesting account I found on youtube

user/onlinecrimewatch

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10th December 2008, 10:55
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Looks like that link in your signature has been shutdown, AntifaUSA.

Melbourne Lefty
11th December 2008, 04:03
its different when you're referring to a majority hegemony.

Personally i think racial pride of any flavour is ridiculous but all the more so when it comes from the more privileged.

...oh wait i'm irish. Yay!

hmmmmm I gotta problem with that...



majority hegemony


Does that mean that ethnic Irish in Eire should not be proud of their ethnicity but ethnic Irish in the Northern 6 counties should be?

The majority hegemony rule is absurd and it looks like a rule made up simply so that the left could piggyback on the bandwagon of minority ethnic pride groups.

The difference between a poor black briton seeking solace in ethnic identity and a poor white briton doing the same seems only to be that the latter is called a racist simply because the bosses in his country look like him.

It also seems to be something that attacks only western 'white' hegemonies. The situation with Chinese as a market dominant ethnic minority in many parts of SE Asia is a condition I have never heard discussed.

It is a bit of a tanty, but I am sick and tired of people on the left who are unable to have a discussion without trying not to offend someones pride in their damn skin colour!

WE ARE WORKING CLASS, all colours and ethnicities mean nothing, until the left drops the 'hegemony' bullshit line for who gets ethnic pride and who does not then majority working classes in all sorts of countries will continue to turn their backs.

Encouraging black people to seek redress for past wrongs in America or Australia may seem like the left thing to do, but in reality all it does is split the working class and create white guilt/resentment, which splits us up more and in a way the bosses can exploit.

I expect someone will yell at me for this but seriously I couldnt give a damn, If we continue to tell people that class matters more than race then we better be ready to act that way even when someone tells us a heartbreaking story.

In short you cant tell a poor white boy that he has no right to be proud of his skin and then turn around and tell a black boy that he does because it looks, and IS RACISM!:cursing:

replies without swearing on the back of a postage stamp please.:laugh:

Holden Caulfield
11th December 2008, 14:30
'ethnic' pride is at its core, or perhaps should be, a stance of minorities, who are traditionally and socially opressed, making a statement that they class themselves as equal and not ashamed of who they are, that they have dignity. Not some kind of love for their race.

Minority (or opressed) groups often have their kind of 'female/black/gay pride' to show that they are equal and not going to be opressed by social pressures.

White pride serves what other purpose other than enforcing 'white cultural hegemony' the white population are the majority and so almost everything is their culture so they need to push to show they are equal or such lark. True the working class should have this instead of races having it but we do in a form in the skinhead culture and such.



In short you cant tell a poor white boy that he has no right to be proud of his skin and then turn around and tell a black boy that he does because it looks, and IS RACISM
the opressed in society should stand up and show they are proud of who they are, white people are not opressed in the same way, I agree that the working class should be united and proud of who we are, but that doesn't mean that opressed groups should be encouraged to conform to any cultural hegemony.

what do you think about feminist movements, or gay pride movements?
and dont think we have to fall back on swearing at you it's patronising,