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MadMoney
4th July 2008, 05:36
What will porn be like in a communist society? I assume no ads. But will there be different classes of porn? Will it all be amateur stuff or will it all be an attempt at a ligitimate movie with dialogue and stuff?

(I hope you guys have a sense of humor and are willing to deal with bored, drunk cappies)

spartan
4th July 2008, 05:44
Well for a start you wont have to pay for it and there wont be any restrictions on its distribution.

Of course there will have to be restrictions such as age limits for the performers, whether or not they are freely consenting to what they are doing and regular free health checks (To stop any potential spread of sexually transmitted diseases) but other than that i dont see anything wrong with porn in a Communist society.

Jazzratt
4th July 2008, 09:47
I imagine pornography would look a lot like the kind described in this essay (http://www.thefword.org.uk/features/2008/01/against_censors) a friend of mine linked me to, but distributed and supported (obviously) on the basis of post-capitalist economics.

KrazyRabidSheep
4th July 2008, 12:26
Will it all be amateur stuff or will it all be an attempt at a ligitimate movie with dialogue and stuff?
An attempt at a legitimate movie with dialogue and stuff?

I have yet to see a porno with a legitimate dialogue (unless you consider "oh, baby" and "fuck me hard" are the modern-day equivalent of Shakespeare.)

Dr Mindbender
4th July 2008, 13:49
What will porn be like in a communist society? I assume no ads. But will there be different classes of porn? Will it all be amateur stuff or will it all be an attempt at a ligitimate movie with dialogue and stuff?

(I hope you guys have a sense of humor and are willing to deal with bored, drunk cappies)

personally i would like to see more prominence of hentai, CGI (http://www.redtube.com/752) and possibly gynoid women. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gD1tjTsBsJc)

Pirate Utopian
4th July 2008, 14:27
Will it all be amateur stuff or will it all be an attempt at a ligitimate movie with dialogue and stuff?
I hope not, I hate it when porn has a story, it's not the reason I'm watching!

Lamanov
4th July 2008, 14:48
What will porn be like in a communist society?

Well, you need at least one penis, at least one vagina, at least one pair of titties, and at least one camera. When all above elements interact, you get a porno movie.

Bud Struggle
4th July 2008, 14:54
Of course the porn actors will those that want to do such things not those that see a profit in the business so they probably won't be the hot babes you see in Capitalist society porn.

They will be just run of the mill people--maybe a little fat and a little to hairy in the wrong places and maybe not exactly young and beautiful.

I'm sure they won't all be ugly. :lol:

Liquid Swords
4th July 2008, 16:12
Oh man, when I saw the title of this thread I thought it was about actual communist porn. :rolleyes:

I would assume that there would be no more "sexist" porn for lack of a better word. Stuff like violent porn and girls getting pissed on and all that. I don't think many women would want to participate in porn like that when they don't need to do so to make a living.

Fedorov
4th July 2008, 16:25
Well, you need at least one penis, at least one vagina, at least one pair of titties, and at least one camera. When all above elements interact, you get a porno movie.

Well technically you just need a camera and someone/or thing. Whatever us dirty commies are into.

Bud Struggle
4th July 2008, 16:39
A good example of what Communist Porn would look like:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QMg20KzNI3k

Dr Mindbender
4th July 2008, 16:48
A good example of what Communist Porn would look like:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QMg20KzNI3k


wow even your commercials had subliminal propaganda purposes.

And you american cappies criticise places like North Korea and the USSR.

kettle calling pot black time i think... :rolleyes:

Bud Struggle
4th July 2008, 17:21
wow even your commercials had subliminal propaganda purposes.

And you american cappies criticise places like North Korea and the USSR.

kettle calling pot black time i think... :rolleyes:

Well, it's an old commercial back from the Cold War days--it actually caused quite a stur if I remember--I think the Societ Union even filed a formal protest with the United States about the commercial.

You do have to admit that the American commercial was done in fun--the North Koreans are dead serious.

On an off topic--I googled for the Soviet reaction to the Wendy's commercial and I found this in the NYTimes about how the Americans felt about Gorbachev. Interesting reading.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=940DE0DC1F39F931A25751C1A96E9482 60&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all

Dr Mindbender
4th July 2008, 17:34
You do have to admit that the American commercial was done in fun--the North Koreans are dead serious.



You reckon? Those big cigar chomping suits have a lot to lose.

A lot of me reckons there was a lot of seriousness on their part too.

eyedrop
4th July 2008, 18:11
Oh man, when I saw the title of this thread I thought it was about actual communist porn. :rolleyes:

I would assume that there would be no more "sexist" porn for lack of a better word. Stuff like violent porn and girls getting pissed on and all that. I don't think many women would want to participate in porn like that when they don't need to do so to make a living.

I know a few people who enjoy being pissed on, don't underestimate the weird sexual habits of humans. Imagine how many would enjoy such things but doesn't dare to say it in the open, even to their partners. I know one guy who begged his girlfriend to pee on him while having sex. It's really not much weirer than getting cum sprayed all over your face or elucing female squirting. Also remember to thriwing S&M community, I doubt everyone there are there by force. It is exciting on your own terms, to be "humiliated" in sexual acts.


On the subject, lot's of people have the desire to have lookers involved in their sex life. It is an interesting prospect for, I would guess, most of us. Now it can be seen in al the amateour porn websites where people videotape themselfes, or live, and spread it for free. Just because they enjoy the thought of other people looking at them having sex.

With this in mind I can't imagine that there won't be many people interested in making quality porn movies.

Bud Struggle
4th July 2008, 18:25
You reckon? Those big cigar chomping suits have a lot to lose.

A lot of me reckons there was a lot of seriousness on their part too.

Could be. I'm not the best judge of such things. I'm hardly ever serious about anything--:lol:--so maybe you're right.

MadMoney
5th July 2008, 01:46
Wow, this has turned about better than I could have imagined...

Another question...

What will y'all call the "money shot?"

534634634265
5th July 2008, 07:06
What will y'all call the "money shot?"

in sowiet Russia
the money shoots you!

i dont know, the great proletarian eruption? the peoples nut?
so, basically, the porn industry wont exist. it will all be amateur, and thus less interesting. maybe the us gov should nationalize the porno industry!:rolleyes:

Guerrilla22
5th July 2008, 07:13
It will be just like regular porn, except the heads of Marx, Engles, Trotsky, Che, Fidel, ect. will be superimposed over the heads of the actors and there will be titles such as DICKtatorship of the Proletarait, the Cumming fast Manifesto and such.

534634634265
5th July 2008, 07:21
It will be just like regular porn, except the heads of Marx, Engles, Trotsky, Che, Fidel, ect. will be superimposed over the heads of the actors and there will be titles such as DICKtatorship of the Proletarait, the Cumming fast Manifesto and such.
while i value the humor, how can there be a porn industry based on paid actors and actresses? we don't have money anymore. im not fucking mad whores out of love for my fellow countrymens need to wank.
(honestly i might actually:) but for the sake of this argument, no;))

KrazyRabidSheep
5th July 2008, 08:42
A good example of what Communist Porn would look like:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QMg20KzNI3k

I remember this commercial from the news. The Soviet ambassador sat there, watched it, and laughed throughout it. Then at the end, he said "Not funny".

The commercial was a response to the 1970s-1980s GDR olympic scandal. Apparently East Germany was shooting their female athletes with male growth hormones, which resulted in unattractive masculine female athletes.

Hyacinth
5th July 2008, 14:33
I don’t see why a porn industry would exist at all, IMO amateur productions distributed over a youtube-like site would do just fine. If people wish to make higher quality stuff we’d simply provide them the technical means (cameras, video editing equipment, etc.) to do so, but it’s not like we’d have a central planning subcommittee on adult films decide what to make. :p

Bud Struggle
5th July 2008, 14:35
What will y'all call the "money shot?"

The Revolution. You are always waiting for it to come. :lol:

534634634265
6th July 2008, 03:28
The Revolution. You are always waiting for it to come. :lol:
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
best so far, in my opinion

Axel1917
8th July 2008, 04:57
Would there even be a point for porn to exist? Probably not. With quality jobs and education available, people (especially women) would no longer have to to degrading things like stripping and porn filming to make a living. Cut the job shortages and low wages in a lot of places that force people to get into porn for a decent salary and people will no longer do this stuff for a living, as they can get quality jobs where they don't have to degrade themselves.

Plus, without the stress and other such complications in relationships caused by the capitalist system, I am sure that people would have a much easier time with relationships than they do now.

534634634265
8th July 2008, 13:19
Would there even be a point for porn to exist? Probably not. With quality jobs and education available, people (especially women) would no longer have to to degrading things like stripping and porn filming to make a living. Cut the job shortages and low wages in a lot of places that force people to get into porn for a decent salary and people will no longer do this stuff for a living, as they can get quality jobs where they don't have to degrade themselves.

Plus, without the stress and other such complications in relationships caused by the capitalist system, I am sure that people would have a much easier time with relationships than they do now.
:laugh::laugh::laugh:
you think people in the porn industry aren't well paid? would you fuck truckloads of possibly diseased whores for little to no money? i agree that lack of quality education leads people to make poor choices, but if you don't want to make porn or strip (both pay well) then get a McJob.
also, what does the "capitalist system" have to do with poor inter-personal relations skills?:confused:
i get it, its my low paying job that makes me beat my wife senseless.:blink:
to say capitalism is related to bad relationships is, to me, like saying communism is related to bad dental care. :rolleyes:

Qwerty Dvorak
8th July 2008, 14:00
It will all look like [link removed]

534634634265
8th July 2008, 14:06
It will all look like [link removed]
you know you can read the link when you hover the mouse over it, right?
:laugh::D:laugh:

Axel1917
8th July 2008, 23:52
:laugh::laugh::laugh:
you think people in the porn industry aren't well paid? would you fuck truckloads of possibly diseased whores for little to no money? i agree that lack of quality education leads people to make poor choices, but if you don't want to make porn or strip (both pay well) then get a McJob.
also, what does the "capitalist system" have to do with poor inter-personal relations skills?:confused:
i get it, its my low paying job that makes me beat my wife senseless.:blink:
to say capitalism is related to bad relationships is, to me, like saying communism is related to bad dental care. :rolleyes:

I implied that people in the porn industry were well paid (in addition to this, strippers can make hundreds of dollars in a single night.), hence people going there to actually make a decent income as opposed to working a low paying job. The porn industry thrives on unemployment and low paying jobs created by capitalism.

Jazzratt
9th July 2008, 00:14
Would there even be a point for porn to exist? Probably not. With quality jobs and education available, people (especially women) would no longer have to to degrading things like stripping and porn filming to make a living. Cut the job shortages and low wages in a lot of places that force people to get into porn for a decent salary and people will no longer do this stuff for a living, as they can get quality jobs where they don't have to degrade themselves.

Plus, without the stress and other such complications in relationships caused by the capitalist system, I am sure that people would have a much easier time with relationships than they do now.

So you believe that after the revolution Martymachlia and Voyeurism will cease to exist? That everyone will be so sexually staid as to keep their activities "behind closed doors"? Indeed, without the moralistic to condemn them as "degraded" I imagine a lot more martymachiliacs would turn their paraphilia to a creative purpose (erotic art, pornographic cinematography and so on). I would recommend you read the article I linked to earlier, hopefully it will help you understand that degradation is not the sole motivation for pornography.

Do you imagine that being in a relationship would be a reason not to produce or even consume pornography? I imagine that a couple (or triple/quadruple or whatever) that wished to "spice things up" could easily get hold of the equipment and help to make a film. Our society would (hopefully) not be as uptight as you seem to envisage.

Bud Struggle
9th July 2008, 01:03
What the hell is martymachilia?

Robert
9th July 2008, 02:45
Martymachlia is a paraphilia involving sexual attraction to having others watch the execution of a sexual act.

I thought all you swingers knew that, Tom.:laugh:

Reminds me of an old joke: know what you call a man who doesn't wear any underwear?

A swinger.

534634634265
9th July 2008, 02:51
i think the eventual end of the porn industry will be the amateur movement anyway. its not like we need a revolution to bring it about. the pornography industry has been hurt badly by declining sales due to ease of access on the internet. i learned that from the colbert report.

Sky
12th July 2008, 10:16
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apathy maybe
14th July 2008, 09:32
In a free society you will participate in pornography. Or else!

Why wouldn't we force people to strip for the camera? Fuck on camera? What sort of free society wouldn't force people to have sex with strangers?


As for the last comment by "Sky", I hate to say it, but your type of "socialism" sounds shit. Why is porn such a horror? Why is it something that must be fought against? What is wrong with producing and distributing porn? Oh yeah, and I would appreciate a materialist response if you have one. If you don't, then meh.

Zurdito
14th July 2008, 09:37
porn in a capitalist society is a great example of the failure of the market. I mean come on, Troy Knobsmith? :blink: even our most anti-revolutionary members must admit that whatever we churn out after the revolution canīt be worse than what gets made today.

and for those of you cynical people out there:rolleyes: I only know this stuff because my girlfriend is a translator and gets a lot of porn to subtitle, and damn itīs funny. honest!

Robert
14th July 2008, 12:58
even our most anti-revolutionary members must admit that whatever we churn out after the revolution canīt be worse than what gets made today.

Quack! That would be I. But how would I know "what gets made today"? Do you guys actually watch this crap?

And who will be the big stars under communism? Komrade Kukumber? Revolutionary Dingle Barry?