Why do the Marxists hate America? - That's easy

[MaxB]

-Because it isn't perfect (Which country is?)

-Because it defeated that extremely flawed and inept society: the Iron Curtain.

-Because the "Socialist" societies are always asking the Capitalist Imperial for financial help---(Who's feeding the filthy N. Koreans?---U. S. Capital and U. S. grain. Who helped the N. Koreans build their Nuclear capabilities? The U. S.) This show that "collective" societies are a total failure.

-Mainly---it's ENVY. They hate the U. S. for having achieved in 200 years what no Marxist nation will in a million.

Socialists---a group of failed, resentful, envious, "idealists" more interested in slogans and simplistic solutions than REAL ANSWERS to complex problems. These morons make such comparisons as "the U. S. vs. Sweden". Sweden is a homogenous society with less than 15 000 000 people. The U. S. is a heterogenous (multicultural) society with over 260 000 000 people. In the U. S., the great majority of Americans (illegal immigrants that are here illegally not included) have a middle class position and live better than most people in the world.

"....And the Marxists keep on reinventing themselves and redifining their ideology after each failure".

[Umoja]

Sweden isn't messed up.... Thats a Socialist Country. Oh no! I responded to MaxB.... AHHHH!!!

[Corvus Corax]

MaxB, your points are a little biased, i mean, of course you are going to point out all the good points, like who you lend money to, not the bad points, who you take money from and loot. You have also changed from marxists to just plain socialists in your post.Socialists include Marxists, but not all socialists are like this and not all of them hate america. So what if Marxists hate America, is you hating the USSR any different. I vote different subject. Why were capitalists against the USSR, or are against North Korea? That is the sort of question you are asking.

[JoYKiLLaH]

I think I speak for all in saying this;

Your a damn joke MaxB

[Lardlad95]

-Because it isn't perfect (Which country is?)<<<

So because other countries aren't that makes everything fine? If something is wrong its wrong

>>>-Because it defeated that extremely flawed and inept society: the Iron Curtain.<<<<

It didn't defeat anyone....there wasn't a war...the SOviet union Fell.....ooooh wow the US sure did alot. Get this though now thatRussia isn't socialsit anymore their economy has dropepd drasticaly and it will take along time to recover..it's easer to go from Capitalsim to communism than the otehr way around

>>>>-Because the "Socialist" societies are always asking the Capitalist Imperial for financial help---(Who's feeding the filthy N. Koreans?---U. S. Capital and U. S. grain. Who helped the N. Koreans build their Nuclear capabilities? The U. S.) This show that "collective" societies are a total failure.<<<<<

THis analogy is just how you deduce that collectiveism does'n't work by using N. Korea as an example

That boy is running

That boy tripped while he was running

Running caused him to trip

Running must not work

>>>>-Mainly---it's ENVY. They hate the U. S. for having achieved in 200 years what no Marxist nation will in a million.<<<<<

Prove it....did the Soviet Union has 1 million years..a.nd of course the US achieved something no Marxist nation would....THE US is capitalist it wouldn't make sense for a marxist country to be like the US

>>>Socialists---a group of failed, resentful, envious, "idealists" more interested in slogans and simplistic solutions than REAL ANSWERS to complex problems. These morons make such comparisons as "the U. S. vs. Sweden". Sweden is a homogenous society with less than 15 000 000 people. The U. S. is a heterogenous (multicultural) society with over 260 000 000 people. In the U. S., the great majority of Americans (illegal immigrants that are here illegally not included) have a middle class position and live better than most people in the world.<<<<<

Make simple answers? We make simple answer? THe US created Welfare and affirmative action neither of which solve the real problem. Racism, unemployment, and poverty. The US just thinks throwing money at something fixes it.

"....And the Marxists keep on reinventing themselves and redifining their ideology after each failure".

[canikickit]

The Iron Curtain wasn't a society.

"because they aren't perfect"

What a foolish concept. What a ridiculous generalisation. What a presumptive statement. Not only are you boring as hell, but you're stupid and inept at making concrete points.


Who helped the N. Koreans build their Nuclear capabilities? The U. S.

Ha, ha, ha...you're quite the comedian aren't you?

If I did hate the US (as opposed to the entire two continents of America, which I trust you weren't referring to) a large part of it would be the fact that "they" provide countries with nuclear weapons and then call them members of an axis of evil. Why build an axis if you are going to complain about it. The US should be happy! :biggrin: Like Dr. Frankenstein!

Who writes your jokes?

I urinate on the grass cutting machine of your uncle's sister in law.

(Edited by canikickit at 2:49 am on Dec. 7, 2002)

[Blackberry]

Quote: from MaxB on 11:45 pm on Dec. 6, 2002

"....And the Marxists keep on reinventing themselves and redifining their ideology after each failure".



Ahem. Capitalists don't do that?

If capitalism was so perfect, then there would be no need for passing new laws and bills in any capitalist nation on earth, would there?


P.S. One day you will hopefully realise that you have your own brain.

(Edited by Neutral Nation at 5:35 am on Dec. 7, 2002)

[Iepilei]

I hate capitalism
America is flowing with capitalists
Therefor, I hate America
However, not all Americans are capitalist
In conclusion, I hate capitalist americans.

[JoYKiLLaH]

i was just about to say something like that comrade Iepilei

thats exactly what i think, I know some cool canadians who are left-wingers (we actually have a clan for counterstrike 6 years running called Collective Canadian Communist Party) the leader is a full blown commie and im merily a socialist on his way to communism thru the preachings on this forum.

Anyhow, some teachers I brought up issues with in Social Studies and they all shut me down and one even had the fucking nerve to kick me out for bringing up Communism, so I too, similar to u, hate cappy canadians

[redstar2000]

"failed, resentful, envious idealist"--yep, that's me. :cheesy:

[theewokchief]

nice place Sweden, they have Sauna's, big breasted blonde women and ovely pine furniture. They also have a higher standard of living than the USA and a far lower crime rate, lowest in europe too, i think. As to it being a 'socialist' country, that remans to be seen. Its centre left, but by no means socalist.

[American Kid]

Good evening, I'm the Kid.

I have no idea what the hell is going on. In general of course, but specifically regarding this thread. I haven't read it and I don't plan to (at least not in the immediate future).

But I have recieved a PM from my presently-displaced friend Capitalist Imperial who has a few things to say on the matter. These are my brosef's words, not necessarily mine. Word:

"Ewokchief, how do you figure that Sweden has a better standard of living than the USA? American average household income is higher than Swedeners, AND American paychecks are taxed far less than Swedes' paychecks, for a cumulative average income effect that outperforms Sweden's average household income by far. Voting rights are stronger in the US, homeownership is more easily attainable in the US, as is business ownership. Finally, technological proficience is higher in the USA (US is #1 in the world in both # of computers and # of computers per person). So again I ask, what is your argument that Sweden has a higher standard living than the USA?"

fin.

Now those obviously are not my words. Not that I disagree with them (or necessarily agree with them). They're just, as anyone here who knows me will tell you, a little "out of my league."

If you need me, I'm jerkin' off over in Chit Chat.

-ak

(lol, *wink*)

[Geddan]

We swedes live with good conscience since we aren't responsible for as much theft and exploitation and murder as the US is. The US is a welfare state only because it has started to wage cappie wars against poor countries, or countries with a much resources, and the US plunder the countries and filter the money back home to buy the computers and the high wages you mention.

The US has a few percent of the people living in goddamn luxury, then the US have people living off crime and on the streets with much worse living standard than any Swede. The average living standard might be higher, but in Sweden it is more equal I guess.

As I said, we Swedes have a better conscience than many Bush-supporting American should have, and I consider that to be a much better measure of welfare.
At least our government doesn't steal and rob as much as the american one. The US should consider joining it's own terrorist list!


Leve kommunismen! Leve Sverige!

[Politrickian]

Quote: from JoYKiLLaH on 7:46 pm on Dec. 7, 2002
we actually have a clan for counterstrike 6 years running called Collective Canadian Communist Party


It may be completely off topic, but can I join that clan. I'm not Canadian but merely a Eurotrash comrade... =)

As I explained before
step 1. www.truth.gov
step 2. ctrl-c
step 3. http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/pos...c=1321&postno=9 (http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/post.pl?action=posttopic&forum=22&topic=1321&postno=9)
step 4. ctrl v
step 5. post

[Len]

That's not why i hate the US. I hate them because they are some of the most hypocritical people on earth. An The Manifesto was only published 150 years ago. My mom always says "Good things take time"