Cappies, please read - Plain and simple.

[Hayduke]

I just heard that America is investing millions in there fight against terrorism, and now comes my plain and simple question.

Arent you worried, as proud citizens of America, that the people of the U.S are gonna suffer under this ?

I mean the money aint gonna be used to renovate your schools, repair your roads, or any other social purpose.

Do you wish to see it go this far ?

[Capitalist Imperial]

no, these funds are not being taken from schools or infrastructure, they are seperately budgeted funds

of course we need to fund a war on terror, what do you think has been hapening in the last year and 2 months?

[Marxist ally]

and u know this how CI?

(Edited by Marxist ally at 9:37 pm on Nov. 26, 2002)

[j]

The money is not technically diverted from social programs, infrastructure, etc. However, in a round about way it is.

We have x numbers of dollars in our total federal budget. Congress then divides it up among worthy budget items. When you increase the percentage of x dollars on the military it gets cut from other parts of the budget. That is the theory anyway. But to avoid raising taxes and taking money from other programs the government decides to spend more many than it has creating a deficit. Eventually after the deficit spending is done we need to get out of debt and that is done by cutting the budget to below the orginal x amount of dollars in effect cutting programs for the environment, society, infrastructure, etc.

This is the essential problem. If GWB decided to raise taxes for a war, the war wouldn't happen. Americans fight taxation at every inpass whether it be military, social programs, or the environment. So Bush is going to mortgage the future of this country by spending more money than we have. Spend it now, pay it back later.

So to answer DDAY's question--the money won't come directly from other needed programs. It will come from the livliehood of this country's young and unborn children.

j

[Umoja]

CI a war on terror is ineffective. As Assata Shakur said "They want us to think that we are random radicals in society, just random terrorist, but many others think this way and aren't alone."

Terror won't stop, you can't kill an idea. You can only make more enemies. So, really you should rethink all this CI, would you want your tax dollars to go to a war, that benefits Bush and Oil Companies, and will lead to terrorist attacks against civilians who probubly don't at all benefit from the war?

[Jaha]

war is good, let us waste all our money on it.

war is good
viruses are good
unpredictable storms are good
being tourtured for months on end is good
computers that continually fail are good
murderers are good
capitalists should run the world along with monkeys and sick minded zebras
fff should be used to designate public phones
nazis should dance half naked in the local YMCA

i think i have given enough proper examples to show my sarcasm.....

[Moskitto]

you can't really fight a "war" against terrorism in the same way as a war against say, belgium,

you can't just annihalate terrorism unless you created the ultimate global police state, and i don't think anyone would really like that, or you could try to understand why people don't like something that's going on so decide to commit terrorism.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

If you will all just read Fabetz's post titled "Como e porque destruit os EUA" under politics. It will tell you everything about what the Al-Qaeda plans to do against the US. Supposedly, there is nothing that the American governments can do.
By the way, Fabetz's post is in Portuguese.

[Capitalist Imperial]

Quote: from Victorcommie on 5:57 am on Nov. 27, 2002
If you will all just read Fabetz's post titled "Como e porque destruit os EUA" under politics. It will tell you everything about what the Al-Qaeda plans to do against the US. Supposedly, there is nothing that the American governments can do.
By the way, Fabetz's post is in Portuguese.

it is what they hope to do, and history will show if the US government can stop it

almost every day since sept 11th, headlines are full of stories of failed terrorist plots, and arrests of terrorist cell members

this obviously results in the saving of many lives that may have been taken if said plots were not detected and foiled

in this respect, the war on terror is highly effective

[Capitalist Imperial]

Quote: from Victorcommie on 5:57 am on Nov. 27, 2002
If you will all just read Fabetz's post titled "Como e porque destruit os EUA" under politics. It will tell you everything about what the Al-Qaeda plans to do against the US. Supposedly, there is nothing that the American governments can do.
By the way, Fabetz's post is in Portuguese.


I read it. I don't know how authentic or realistic this interview is. Its sheer sensationalism is highly suspect.

Assuming there is any reality to it, the worse possible assumption made by this "high echelon" al queda official would be that the US would sell their military hardware such as aircraft carriers to re-capitalize in lieu of an all-out combat respone. This is a very bad assumption for al-queda.

In a scenario proposed by this individual, upon an all out biological/nuke attack on the US, all bets would be off.

Short-term economic concerns would definately take a back seat to full eradication of the enemy with extreme prejudice, using both conventional possibly nuclear methods.

[Capitalist Imperial]

Quote: from Victorcommie on 5:57 am on Nov. 27, 2002
If you will all just read Fabetz's post titled "Como e porque destruit os EUA" under politics. It will tell you everything about what the Al-Qaeda plans to do against the US. Supposedly, there is nothing that the American governments can do.
By the way, Fabetz's post is in Portuguese.


I read it. I don't know how authentic or realistic this interview is. Its sheer sensationalism is highly suspect.

Assuming there is any reality to it, the worse possible assumption made by this "high echelon" al queda official would be that the US would sell their military hardware such as aircraft carriers to re-capitalize in lieu of an all-out combat respone. This is a very bad assumption for al-queda.

In a scenario proposed by this individual, upon an all out biological/nuke attack on the US, all bets would be off.

Short-term economic concerns would definately take a back seat to full eradication of the enemy with extreme prejudice, using both conventional and possibly nuclear methods.