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Bud Struggle
25th June 2008, 20:48
Bad Day for Communism!

Robert Mugabe stripped of knighthood!

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article4213800.ece

Queen strips Robert Mugabe of knighthood to mark 'revulsion' at violence

Robert Mugabe has been stripped of his honorary knighthood, as the pressure grows on him to postpone Friday's run-off election.

The Queen has withdrawn the award on the advice of the Foreign Secretary in protest at his misrule.

"This action has been taken as a mark of revulsion at the abuse of human rights and abject disregard for the democratic process in Zimbabwe over which President Mugabe has presided," the Foreign Office said.

African leaders meeting in Swaziland urged Mr Mugabe to postpone the election, amid reports that a top negotiator in Harare was considering calling off the vote.

However, Zimbabwe's electoral commission said that Sunday's withdrawal by Morgan Tsvangirai, the opposition leader was filed too late to be legally valid.

Rood Boi
25th June 2008, 20:52
How is this a bad day for communism? There are a number of issues that have come up in this election but how is Mugabe being stripped of his Knighthood a bad thing for Communism??

Bud Struggle
25th June 2008, 20:57
How is this a bad day for communism? There are a number of issues that have come up in this election but how is Mugabe being stripped of his Knighthood a bad thing for Communism??

What kind of Communist doesn't at least have a knighthood?

apathy maybe
25th June 2008, 21:04
I didn't even realise that Mugabe was a communist. Care to explain how he is, what values he and his party uphold etc.?

Rood Boi
25th June 2008, 21:07
Haha!! Yes, and his massive working class support base!!

I hope your tongue was in your cheek when you were typing!

RedKnight
25th June 2008, 21:12
I feel that this is a good thing. Robert Mugabe was de-knighted because he acted dishonourably. He tyranised the Zimbabwean people, and corrupted Marxist-Leninism even more than it was already. Other Communists, like the Cambridge Five, were already de-knighted for disloyalty to the British Commonwealth. Some of those before mentioned knights were later awarded the "Order of Lenin". So yes there are actual "red knights". :lol: Besides the "Order of Lenin", there was also the "Order of the Red Star", etc. http://www.soviet-awards.com/

Bud Struggle
25th June 2008, 21:17
I didn't even realise that Mugabe was a communist. Care to explain how he is, what values he and his party uphold etc.?


From the (if you can believe it :rolleyes:) Proletarian Online--the voice of the Communist Party of Great Britain (Marxist-Lenenist.)

http://www.cpgb-ml.org/index.php?secName=proletarian&subName=display&art=222

They seem to take him as "one of their own." :)

Bud Struggle
25th June 2008, 21:18
Haha!! Yes, and his massive working class support base!!

I hope your tongue was in your cheek when you were typing!

That was the point. :lol:

Dean
25th June 2008, 21:36
From the (if you can believe it :rolleyes:) Proletarian Online--the voice of the Communist Party of Great Britain (Marxist-Lenenist.)

http://www.cpgb-ml.org/index.php?secName=proletarian&subName=display&art=222

They seem to take him as "one of their own." :)

Well I've been following the news on Zimbabwe since late last year and I can say that the lower classes definitely support Tsvigorani.

Dr Mindbender
25th June 2008, 21:39
what has mugabe got to do with communism? :confused:

Bud Struggle
25th June 2008, 23:25
what has mugabe got to do with communism? :confused:

He's a brutal dictator that steals from and murders his people--isn't that enough to prove he's a Communist? :crying::D

Seriously (the first comment was a joke) read the British Communist Party link above.

Also, is the Communist Party of Great Britain (Marxist-Leninist) for real? Or is it a little like the CPUSA?

redSHARP
26th June 2008, 07:22
He's a brutal dictator that steals from and murders his people--isn't that enough to prove he's a Communist? :crying::D

Seriously (the first comment was a joke) read the British Communist Party link above.

Also, is the Communist Party of Great Britain (Marxist-Leninist) for real? Or is it a little like the CPUSA?

no that proves he is a jackass. to answer everyones basic question, what des he have to do wih communism, is that his group was backed by china during the Bush War. this war was waged because the white minority government of Rhodesia was opressive and the perfect example of elite tyranny on the working class. 2 black majority groups were formed, one back by the soviets and the one back by china. the soviet group had a plan of action and actually trained it troops. in typical moaist form, the china gave them guns and marched them off to die. Mugabes group actually won the war and then renamed Rhodesia, Zimbabwe.

and what is wrong with the CPUSA? i dont see any other groups doing shit.

Bud Struggle
26th June 2008, 12:06
and what is wrong with the CPUSA? i dont see any other groups doing shit.

Oops, sorry about that. I certainly have nothing against them.

Demogorgon
26th June 2008, 12:21
The system of knighthoods is such a bloody farce that I cannot in good conscience say anything to do with them, whether it be giving them or taking them away, can be a god thing. But certainly I am all for removing all honour or other distintinction given to that tyrant.

Bud Struggle
26th June 2008, 13:18
The system of knighthoods is such a bloody farce that I cannot in good conscience say anything to do with them, whether it be giving them or taking them away, can be a god thing..

This where I show my "Bourgeois on the make" side: if I were a British subject, I would be angleing pretty hard about now to get a knighthood.

I think being "Sir Tom" would be pretty cool. Making money is fine and all that, but it would be nice to get a little distinction that money can't buy. (Which of course money does buy.;))

Kwisatz Haderach
26th June 2008, 13:26
So a tinpot dictator with no particular ideology or coherent idea of how to run his country got stripped of his anachronistic, reactionary feudal title?

All communists weep. :crying:

Red_or_Dead
26th June 2008, 13:41
If Paul Mccartney can get knighted, anyone can. Even Tom.


So a tinpot dictator with no particular ideology or coherent idea of how to run his country got stripped of his anachronistic, reactionary feudal title?


Yeah, thats the whole point, imo. Even if he was a communist, stripping him of knighthood would be a good thing from a communist point of view,

redSHARP
26th June 2008, 19:47
Oops, sorry about that. I certainly have nothing against them.

hahaha. relax tom just busting your balls.:laugh: