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BrownEyedCubanita
9th November 2002, 05:22
Socialist think that capitalist main point is that the wealthy should rule which isn't true. But is you don't believe in that then, who do you think should have authority?? The poor???
canikickit
9th November 2002, 05:32
The resources of the world should be controlled democratically. not by some company which pays for the election campaign of some corrupt politician.
Bulls on parade
9th November 2002, 08:33
Everybody should have equal power in governing their country. Rule should be democractic, not by someone who has more money and friends than others.

America is essentially a dictatorship with it's President in power.

In a socialist system it is beleived that there should be a 'dictatorship of the proletariat'.ie The workers and people run things.
oconner
9th November 2002, 11:04
Why should one group of people have authority over another? If the money is divided equally nobody would need to control anyone else.
Stormin Norman
9th November 2002, 13:08
"America is essentially a dictatorship with it's President in power."

That's a pretty absurd thing to say, don't ya think?
BrownEyedCubanita
9th November 2002, 16:13
Oconner if the money was divided equally then the people who work there ass of compared to the people who slack off would be earning the same amout...THATS some BULL SHIT!
Stormin Norman
9th November 2002, 16:24
In addition to BEC's observation, what incentive would people have for taking on jobs with greater responsibility?
Goldfinger
9th November 2002, 16:28
Quote: from BrownEyedCubanita on 5:13 pm on Nov. 9, 2002
Oconner if the money was divided equally then the people who work there ass of compared to the people who slack off would be earning the same amout...THATS some BULL SHIT!

In capitali$m on the other hand, only the people who makes the most money get to slack off... and then workers have to work extra hard for the rich. Just like in USA. Oh, and did you know that since Mexico became capiitalist, the % of poor mexicans has increased from 30% to 70%?
Stormin Norman
9th November 2002, 16:31
"Oh, and did you know that since Mexico became capiitalist, the % of poor mexicans has increased from 30% to 70%?"

What is your source?
Goldfinger
9th November 2002, 16:34
a documentary
BrownEyedCubanita
9th November 2002, 17:05
OH and did you know that everyone on cuba is trying to leave because of communism.
Source: my parents and the cuban society of south Florida....and CUBA!
Stormin Norman
9th November 2002, 17:10
"a documentary"

Which one?
Goldfinger
9th November 2002, 17:26
Quote: from BrownEyedCubanita on 6:05 pm on Nov. 9, 2002
OH and did you know that everyone on cuba is trying to leave because of communism.
Source: my parents and the cuban society of south Florida....and CUBA!

so how would you feel if I started saying that "communism is misunderstood, and it doesn't cause oppression?"

Communism, obviously, causes oppression as in Cuba, and I have to admit that. It's too naive to work, therefore I'm not really a communist.

Capitalism causes poverty in Mexico and USA. But do you admit that? No, instead you claim that it makes us all free. And maybe you're right....
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Goldfinger
9th November 2002, 17:32
Quote: from Stormin Norman on 6:10 pm on Nov. 9, 2002
"a documentary"

Which one?

"the battle of Mexico City"
BrownEyedCubanita
9th November 2002, 17:40
http://www.capitalism.net/ go to that website and click on the fundamental insights........it does make us FREE!
Lardlad95
9th November 2002, 17:42
BEC please don't say socialism if you mean communism

I'm a Democratic Socialist and i"m not a communist

Capitalism can't work with out poverty, so basically it advocates it
Goldfinger
9th November 2002, 17:43
http://www.communism.com That makes us free too, it says so in the website.......


*sigh*

(Edited by Apocalypse When at 6:44 pm on Nov. 9, 2002)
BrownEyedCubanita
9th November 2002, 17:47
Thats nice to know the we are free in communism but look here my dear son, I'm not the one who said there wasn't freedom in communism... you are the one who said that there was no fredom in capitaism................
Lardlad95
9th November 2002, 17:50
Quote: from BrownEyedCubanita on 5:47 pm on Nov. 9, 2002
Thats nice to know the we are free in communism but look here my dear son, I'm not the one who said there wasn't freedom in communism... you are the one who said that there was no fredom in capitaism................

unless you have no obligations to anyone other than yourself you aren't free.

People act like freedom means you can be whatever you want. There are two things wrong with this

1. Thats not true

2. THats not freedom

I don't want to go to school, I have to....ie I'm not free to do as I wish.

All america has is the ability to start a buisness and exploit people.


In democratic socialism you can start a buisness...you just can't exploit people
Goldfinger
9th November 2002, 18:19
Quote: from BrownEyedCubanita on 6:47 pm on Nov. 9, 2002
Thats nice to know the we are free in communism but look here my dear son, I'm not the one who said there wasn't freedom in communism... you are the one who said that there was no fredom in capitaism................


OH and did you know that everyone on cuba is trying to leave because of communism.
Source: my parents and the cuban society of south Florida....and CUBA!
Goldfinger
9th November 2002, 18:20
Quote: from Lardlad95 on 6:50 pm on Nov. 9, 2002

In democratic socialism you can start a buisness...you just can't exploit people

Exactly, just look at Sweden!