i think this might be of interest... - a theory.

[Jaha]

what is it that capitalists fear about communism? they raise their fists and shout curses when they hear of such a proposterous idea as communism. i have been thinking about this for a while.

the way i see it, there are two forms of communism. one born out of greed (or in the battle against greed), and the other born out of love. the one of greed is formed when people attempt to force everyone to help and be a part of the commune. lots of rules, regulations, quotas and the such. this is what capitalists fear. in this communism, the government controls most everything and it has a tendancy to fall into a state of totalitarian organization.

the communism that i and i hope others dream of, is where people help not to fill a quota, but to satisfy their volunteer spirit. everything is shared not because of the law, but because they would rather not deny others their fair share. deny them of their needs.

i think the problem with instituting a communism is that we must eliminate greed if it were to work. yes, that is a difficult goal, but i can hardly believe that capitalists say that greed is OK, that it can stay as long as it wants to.

communism is not bad, but it has a powerful enemy: greed.

[kidicarus20]

What I hate about those on the right is they always lump every leftist ideology in the same place, and they will place anybody they dont agree with 100% on the left.
For instance libertarians try and redefine the political line by placing hitler on the left, republicans now make the general reference of liberals to communists, etc... It's mostly out of ignorance, as is when they spout out the same rhetoric over and over about communism being about "control" and what not. Capitalism is the system about control.

[Jaha]

exactly. it is all misrpresentation and misconception.

most people dont understand capitalism or communism or socialism or even feudalism or fascism. and some people dont have much a clue about anything. but they all form opinions.

education will minimize false conclusions

[Anonymous]

Greed is good.

In fact its one of the main reasons I even bother to wake up in the morning.

[Moskitto]

I can't remember why I woke up this morning.

[Iepilei]

greed is not the reason for man's productivity.

look at retirees. they have a difficult time transitioning from being productive to retired that they actually have some of the highest suicide rates of any age group.

people have a need to be productive and a need to be needed. you can skew your definition of greed any way you want to fit that, but that's how it works.

"Oh their greedy for production"
"Oh you're greedy for water and nutrition!"
"Oh you're greedy for air!"

capitalists are funny creatures, I tell ya.

[Jaha]

Dark Capitalist, may there be a day you dont get out of bed in the morning, greedy bastard.

[Exploited Class]

Here, here Iepilei. That works, I like you way of putting that.

[redstar2000]

The strangest thing I've noticed about the capitalist "mind set" is how they perceive the world in terms of making money. No matter what people in a group might be talking about, no matter what they see and hear around them...their minds turn with automated precision to "how can I make money from this?" or "Someone is making money from this--is there a way I could get it on it?".

I've known a few capitalists fairly close up over the years (I blame bad luck), and I've noticed that you can't have a conversation with them that lasts more than 10 minutes without the subject of money being raised by them...how much something cost, how much something is really worth, a big deal he's working on, etc., etc.

It's like seeing a tree with ONE limb...it may be technically alive...but what a NARROW fucking existence.

[Tkinter1]

"what is it that capitalists fear about communism?"
I fear a repeat of its failures.

[Iepilei]

yeah well I'm tired of capitalism's major failure in the 20s, and it's successive failures since.

Up, down, up, down - employment! oh shit!

[Stormin Norman]

You haven't seen anything, yet. A recession with a maximum of maybe 10% unemployment after the Carter Administration. The 1991-92 recession with unemployment of maybe 6%. You have been priviledged enough to live in a time where heavy regulation has sheltered you from a drastic boom-bust cycle. I fear over regulation in the market might just give you something to ***** about. I fear, the fact that we have prevented these sharp declines has allowed unnatural pressure to build up. When it breaks, I think it could possibly be worse than the Great Depression. It is kind of the reverse of a new practice designed for earthquake prevention, where they pump large amounts of fluids down the fault line in order to release pressure gradually. Geologists believe the regular release of compression and tension increases the number of earthquakes, yet the magnitudes are much smaller. Regulation in the market is designed to do the opposite, to protect people from smaller fluctuations, thereby increasing the chances of having a 'big one' (collapse).

My grandfather use to tell me tales of the Great Depression. You do not know what it is like to suffer a bad market for an extended period of time. I suggest you visit an old folks home and explain your thinking to the old timers. They will laugh at you.