France Tries to Usurp US resolution on Iraq (By CI) - Why do

[Guest]

Yet another reason to justify my disdain for the wussiest, softest nation on earth, France.

For everything we've done for them, they have no appreciation. They never have gotten over the fact that our nation surpassed theirs in every way imaginable and can overrun them within 1 week.

Now their jealousy of the USA rears its ugly head again, and their weakness, softness, and lack of spine is again made apparent, as they, with the help of a still bitter Russia, try and push their defeatist tendancies onto America with their own UN Iraq resolution.

Part of France's draft states that the USA can't attack Iraq EVEN IF IRAQ DOES NOT COMPLY WITH UN WEAPONS INSPECTIONS or is found with WMD'S!!!

Now where is the logic in that?

What is France's true agenda? To try (to no avail) and compromise American power to make themselves feel relevant?

It doesn't matter, because America isn't buying.

WITH OR WITHOUT THE UN, THE USA WILL DEVELOP A COALITION AND FINISH BUSINESS IN IRAQ, AND SECURE OUR MIDDLE EAST INTERESTS WITHOUT QUESTION.

[LOIC]

This is the only thing that makes me appreciate the fucked up, crappy french government. I hope it will continue this way.
American government want to attack iraq? Ok but without us!
More and more countries are angry against american attitude which consist to dominate the world. It seems that usa are more and more alone in their war for oil.

We don't want to choose between bush and saddam. Both are fascist killers and their people will suffer because of their madness.

[Capitalist Imperial]

We don't want your help, the incompetant and incapable french military will just get in the way!

[LOIC]

And we don't want to help you.
It's more funny to watch you have your ass kicked.

Let's go GI Joe. You'll be back home soon with one more humiliation in the history of the u$a.

[Sovietsky Souyuz]

the french milliary isn't incapable at all, just because it happens to be the size of a couple of US divisons doesn't make it useless !!!

and anyway, who needed french help for their revolution ; the big , mighty US of A.

BTW, if the entire russian reserve was called, even now, the US army would be made to look like a bunch of toy soldiers.

rant over.

[kidicarus20]

Jealousy? Somebody has been watching bill oreilly again. Exact thing he was claiming the other day, god what a moron.

an attack on iraq is unjustified. Its about Oil, covering up economic problems and helping Dubya's friends in elections, and getting the US involved in another long military affair.
Invading iraq, will not increase the safety of the united states. It will place the US in extreme danger. Right now they are trying to give people a very narrowminded view of this and agian pick out one person who is painted as the root of all evil and our problems, and if we just go invade everything will be so much better off. Nonsense. We need to look at the wider picture, such as widespread arms races and nuclear proliferation, and solutions, such as destroying nuclear stockpiles and supporting disarming of the middle east. In fact, the US has opposed disarming resolutions in the UN, and it has fed the arms race by supplying isreal with WMDs. When one has them, they all think they have to as well. People always cite the WMD danger saddam poses, however, there is no new evidence this is greater than 12 years ago, when the US was giving him this technology.
Saddam also is not particulary unsurpassed in his WMD danger, many other very dagerous nations have been trying to acquire them and the black market will still exist as well as many unstable nations trying to acquire them. Also people cite Saddams treatment of his people, which he has indeed commited atrocities. But the US supported him still after he did these things. Agian here he is not unsurpassed, human rights organisation report terrible human rights violations in many counties.
A US invasion also, i fear would harm civilians and make things worse for them, not improve things. I think the US should put full weight behind getting inspectors back in, and assuring that he is not working on WMDs.


It should not be forgotten that other countries see things how they are, and then conservatives lie about it.
Reagan supported saddam even while he was gassing the kurds, in america our own elections are rigged by republicans, the sanctions US placed on iraq have killed millions of their people, the people if iraq are indeed opposed to a us invasion, a majority, even if they hate saddam. And also this is about capitalism, capitalism profits off of war, capitalism causes war, we are no nation to judge, U$ is a very corrupt sate.

[Capitalist Imperial]

Quote: from Sovietsky Souyuz on 1:14 pm on Oct. 27, 2002
the french milliary isn't incapable at all, just because it happens to be the size of a couple of US divisons doesn't make it useless !!!

and anyway, who needed french help for their revolution ; the big , mighty US of A.

BTW, if the entire russian reserve was called, even now, the US army would be made to look like a bunch of toy soldiers.

rant over.




LOL, you are funny. The Russian army would get overun by US forces in 1 week! LOL,you don't even have the $$$ to adequately train or supply them anymore, and the US military would eradicate russian forces easliy, no problem.

M1-Abrams and US attack planes will scorch russian soil and reduce the Kremlin to rubble.

MLRS systems and howitzers will level St Petersburg to rubble.

Stealth bombers would level Moscow.

Putin would be on his knees in front of Bush beging for his life

Everyne knows the Russian army is a joke! You can't even keep your own territory under contol in chechnya! LOL,LOL

[honest intellectual]

Quote: from Guest on 10:38 pm on Oct. 26, 2002
Part of France's draft states that the USA can't attack Iraq EVEN IF IRAQ DOES NOT COMPLY WITH UN WEAPONS INSPECTIONS or is found with WMD'S!!!

Now where is the logic in that?
The logic is that it will save thousands of lives, you gloopy fool

[Capitalist Imperial]

Quote: from honest intellectual on 9:14 pm on Oct. 27, 2002

Quote: from Guest on 10:38 pm on Oct. 26, 2002
Part of France's draft states that the USA can't attack Iraq EVEN IF IRAQ DOES NOT COMPLY WITH UN WEAPONS INSPECTIONS or is found with WMD'S!!!

Now where is the logic in that?
The logic is that it will save thousands of lives, you gloopy fool

oh, by letting tyrannical saddam hussein develop more and bigger WMD's when he has already used them on thousands of kurds we will be saving lives?

idiot

[honest intellectual]

I do oppose Saddam, but war isn't the answer. Lift the sanctions, open up the country, and Saddam won't last long

[Capitalist Imperial]

THis is the typical passive response expected from a liberal: "Lets lift the sanctions, give saddam even more leverage, and hope the problem fixes itself."

laughable

[LOIC]

Capitalist Imperial, we all know why u$ government wants to attack irak.
Nothing to do with saddam. He is just an excuse.
If you haven't understand this then you are a fool.
u$a don't give a shit about saddam, his weapons, kurds...
u$a want oil.

[honest intellectual]

If they oppose Saddam for being evil, they wouldn't have supported him before

[honest intellectual]

Quote: from Capitalist Imperial on 9:29 pm on Oct. 27, 2002
THis is the typical passive response expected from a liberal: "Lets lift the sanctions, give saddam even more leverage, and hope the problem fixes itself."

laughable
The sanctions themselves are a bigger problem than Saddam

[Guest]

You people aren't to bright for if you were, you would know that we only take about 15% of our over all oil from the Mideast.

Lurker01

[Sovietsky Souyuz]

LOL, you are funny. The Russian army would get overun by US forces in 1 week! LOL,you don't even have the $$$ to adequately train or supply them anymore, and the US military would eradicate russian forces easliy, no problem.

M1-Abrams and US attack planes will scorch russian soil and reduce the Kremlin to rubble.

MLRS systems and howitzers will level St Petersburg to rubble.

Stealth bombers would level Moscow.

Putin would be on his knees in front of Bush beging for his life

Everyne knows the Russian army is a joke! You can't even keep your own territory under contol in chechnya! LOL,LOL

invading russia has never won wars, napolean did it, adolf did it, and anyway, the next big war would be a nuke fight, and russia is too big to get everyone in it.

oh yeah, an old model soviet tank, the JS-3, with its 180mm cannon, could, in sufficient numbers, kill your 'm1' tanks.

and putin would shoot himself first than take surrender, and it would be a glorious last stand , possibly at moscow, and the world would remember them.

and the U$ needed french help for their revoultion, get out of that one ! cant even beat the british on your own !

[Navid Communist]

Quote: from Capitalist Imperial on 9:18 pm on Oct. 27, 2002

Quote: from honest intellectual on 9:14 pm on Oct. 27, 2002

Quote: from Guest on 10:38 pm on Oct. 26, 2002
Part of France's draft states that the USA can't attack Iraq EVEN IF IRAQ DOES NOT COMPLY WITH UN WEAPONS INSPECTIONS or is found with WMD'S!!!

Now where is the logic in that?
The logic is that it will save thousands of lives, you gloopy fool

oh, by letting tyrannical saddam hussein develop more and bigger WMD's when he has already used them on thousands of kurds we will be saving lives?

idiot


Ey If you see Saddam Hussian like a tyrannical what do you see Bush as he is like master Tyran. Why should the people of Iraq just die because som oil. Usa will be more hated from all the countrys for attacking Iraq.

B.t.w Russian forces is great togther with Chinas wow :D

Vietnam won over American Forces don't say Russia can't.


VIVA LA COMMUNISTA. Going to get icecream now

[Tkinter1]

"and the U$ needed french help for their revoultion, get out of that one ! cant even beat the british on your own !"

Yeah but the US wasn't a world power yet. We had insufficient supplys and men. The military consisted of minute men, and an ill-equipped continental army.

Besides the french wanted to get back at the british anyway, it wasnt like the US was on its hands and knees begging france for its support. I reckon we wopped the british a SECOND time in the war of 1812 as well.

And why did you say "get outa that one" like you beat someone?


(Edited by Tkinter1 at 11:00 pm on Nov. 7, 2002)

[peaccenicked]

http://www.cursor.org/stories/vietnam_redux.htm

[canikickit]

For everything we've done for them, they have no appreciation. They never have gotten over the fact that our nation surpassed theirs in every way imaginable and can overrun them within 1 week.


Listen to yourself, you sound like a fucking Nazi.
You sound like Mussolini or Hitler.
I think you are confused, this isn't Stormfront.

Racist.

[Stormin Norman]

I think when we get done in Iraq we ought to push on into France and overtake the wussiest people imaginable. The French even put Americas bleeding heart liberals to shame. The French are the worst ethnic group imaginable. Their hygiene is the poorest of all the western nations and their food sucks. Everytime I hear a French accent I can't decide whether to barf or to punch the offender in the face. The French are inferior to us in every possible way. Felatio is the only claim to fame the French people have.

[canikickit]

It really suits you to be racist, Norm.

[timbaly]

Quote: from Stormin Norman on 12:55 pm on Nov. 9, 2002
I think when we get done in Iraq we ought to push on into France and overtake the wussiest people imaginable. The French even put Americas bleeding heart liberals to shame. The French are the worst ethnic group imaginable. Their hygiene is the poorest of all the western nations and their food sucks. Everytime I hear a French accent I can't decide whether to barf or to punch the offender in the face. The French are inferior to us in every possible way. Felatio is the only claim to fame the French people have.


What kind of comment is that!!!!
I severky hope you aren't serious. I understand why your opinion on Iraq, I know why believe your opinion is right.(Although I don't agree with you on it at all) But how can you just make a ridiclous statement like that, take over France. You must be kidding. How are they inferior to the United States? All people are people, no person or group of peoples are inferior to the next.

[Navid Communist]

Quote: from Stormin Norman on 5:55 pm on Nov. 8, 2002
I think when we get done in Iraq we ought to push on into France and overtake the wussiest people imaginable. The French even put Americas bleeding heart liberals to shame. The French are the worst ethnic group imaginable. Their hygiene is the poorest of all the western nations and their food sucks. Everytime I hear a French accent I can't decide whether to barf or to punch the offender in the face. The French are inferior to us in every possible way. Felatio is the only claim to fame the French people have.


That was most rasist shit i ever heard. They maybe don't have good food but nobody told u to eat it.
even if u try to push into Iraq america would be the lonliest country in the world.

[LOIC]

"The French are the worst ethnic group imaginable"

Yeah, let's build concentration camps for the french!

(Edited by LOIC at 10:45 pm on Nov. 8, 2002)

[Tkinter1]

Can't you see that he's just trying to piss you off?

[canikickit]

He is racist, though. Aren't ya Norm, old buddy old pal?

[Stormin Norman]

No, I am not racist. I judge everybody based upon their own actions. Are their a lot of yarmos in France? Sure. Do I base my opinion of everyone in France on the few idiotic statements that were made by a few of the leftist scum persuasion? No. France has its own traditions, sometimes similar to the United States. To make generalizations about ethnic groups and stereotype them is foolish. You stand to lose a fair amount of understanding by engaging in such grandfalloonery. I was being no more rascist than those of you who engage in America bashing, by saying all Americans are fat, lazy, and stupid Bush loving trogaladites. The statement made was meant to infuriate those guilty of the same blanket statements, only directed at the United States. Most of you pointing the finger at me are hypocrits.

To be honest, I would love to visit France. Paris is a whole different story.

What disturbs me is when I here Americans making the same accusations about our country that you would expect coming from Europeans. I would have to dislike them more than people I have never met or been exposed to.

[LOIC]

"The French are the worst ethnic group imaginable. Their hygiene is the poorest of all the western nations and their food sucks."

"To make generalizations about ethnic groups and stereotype them is foolish"

Don't you have the feeling of saying contradictory things?

"To be honest, I would love to visit France."

To be honest , I think you should stay in u$a because it would be boring for you to visit a country which is "inferior to us in every possible way".

You are racist. Don't try to deny it!

[Stormin Norman]

"Don't you have the feeling of saying contradictory things?"

I would if I had been serious about the original post. However, I think any reasonable human being can see that it was made in jest. I am far to realistic to truly believe the utter nonsense that I spouted off. My reasons for doing so were sincere. Come off it, and realize that I am not as bad of a person as you would like to believe.

[Guest]

hahaha SN owned you

[canikickit]

"owned" - I really hate that fucking phrase.


Norman, I'm pretty sure you're not racist. You're not the only one who can attempt to be humourous.