Bush approves defense $$$ increase (By Capitalist Imperial)

[Guest]

Happy days are here again! We are returning to the greatness of the Reagan 80's.

These are tax dollars well spent. I applaud W's initiative.

[Stormin Norman]

All we need now is a huge cut in the social welfare programs to get us back on track.

[Guest]

Welfare sucks and it horribly applied to our society, so yes destroy it. It is like Communism, looks good on paper but not applicable in true human society. Lousy bleeding heart liberals piss me off.

[Frosty]

The Great Leap Backwards has come!

[Stormin Norman]

Interesting that you would use that choice of words, considering the Great Leap Forward killed about 30 million people alone. I suppose this is the brand of social justice that you hold high as the ultimate brand of a truly progressive society. Killing millions, very forward thinking, indeed.

[guerrillaradio]

Quote: from Stormin Norman on 12:12 pm on Oct. 25, 2002
All we need now is a huge cut in the social welfare programs to get us back on track.


Wow...yeah, it's more important that we kill foreigners than we look after our own poor isn't it??

[antieverything]

Poverty is completely unacceptable, as is unemployment.

[Stormin Norman]

"Poverty is completely unacceptable, as is unemployment."

I guess that is why communists take to killing people when it becomes evident that their economic system is too inefficient to sustain the whole of their population. What a great way to reduce the pool of workers, and ensure that the number of jobs and resources does not fall below the demographic level.

[peaccenicked]

here we go again thicko SN equates Socialism with Stalinism. If you want to address the Stalinists here, go ahead, they are just as moronic as you.

[LeonardoDaVinci]

How do you reason with morons who believe that increasing the already grotesquely excessive defence budget is more important than providing education and health care for everyone?

You simply don't, as it would be as much of a time waste as trying to teach your pet hamster Einstein's theory of relativity.

(Edited by LeonardoDaVinci at 7:42 pm on Oct. 30, 2002)

[antieverything]

It was estimated by some in Reagan's cabinet that 1/2 of our military spending goes to waste. So much for the wonders of the private sector.

[vox]

"For 45 years of the Cold War we were in an arms race with the Soviet Union. Now it appears we’re in an arms race with ourselves." —Adm. Eugene Carroll (U.S. Navy, retired), Center for Defense Information

It's funny to me that SN says, "I guess that is why communists take to killing people when it becomes evident that their economic system is too inefficient to sustain the whole of their population." See, it's quite apparent that capitalism cannot support the whole of society. Welfare programs were not just dreamed up out of nowhere but were responses to actual, existing problems that were created by capitalist social relations.

If SN were truly against welfare, he would be against an increase in the already bloated military budget, where corporate welfare (http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Corporate_Welfare/Military_Fraud.html) dominates. But, I suppose, to anti-human idealogues, a hammer for the military is actually worth $400. (Writing in 1995, David Morris said, "Remember the $400 hammer, the $600 toilet seat, the $7600 coffee pot? Those are symptoms of a deeper disease. According to the Government Accounting Office the military can't account for more than $30 billion in past expenditures and can't find vouchers for about $1 billion a month in current expenditures.")

Republicans all seem to agree that cutting social programs, increasing corporate welfare and massive deficit spending will lead to a prosperous society for all. People who can think, of course, know better.

vox