Where are the active militias?

[trickxiii]

I'm sure this question is repeatedly asked among rev lefties (or is it rev lefters?), but are there any active and organized left wing militias? Those that stand armed against tyranny and facism? I've been in the peaceful movement my entire life and will hopefully always remain so, however lately with the states and parties pulling further and further from each other and the definitions and precedents of neo-conservative facist agenda being met, violence among parties in the United States has a relative, unfortunate chance of taking place in the future. It is disheartening that more militant left wing organizations aren't going public and gaining momentum.

[Wake Up]

I suppose if you found such a militia they would just let you in, no questions asked

[An archist]

What do you mean by active militias? Do you mean groups who shoot capitalists and blow up buildings? Let's be glad there aren't too many of those.

[trickxiii]

I hope I don't have to define the importance of militia inside a hegemonic power...

Don't misunderstand, I never support violence as a means of control or offense. However, I do find it more than foolish to leave yourself unprotected from your government. I'm not saying there should be organizations willing to go on the offensive if called up, however if the military is unable to defend the citizens then it is imperative active militias exist. As an example; I'm saying let's reinvent the Dutch Resistance during WWII. We need to already be organized and in communication with others of like mind to protect our families and ourselves if the shit does hit the fan. Plus, with all the right wing hate groups taking the common place and name of the militia in the United States, us leftists need to form our own resistance and help redefine the militia in the U.S.

[spartan]

Farc (Colombia), Zapatistas (Mexico), Shining Path (Peru), Indian Maoists?

Admittedly they arent militias but they are armed leftist groups.

[fill.air]

i have a small militia of about 20 people with light gun training we call ourselves the red guard.

[dirtycommiebastard]

It is rare that you will see armed insurrectionists in more developed countries who fight capitalism. I am not saying that there have not been any, but for the most part, they serve no real purpose other than individual terrorism that is USUALLY completely divorced from the workers movement altogether.

You cannot decide to take up arms and declare yourself an anti-capitalist group and take any action against the bourgeois state as this will almost certainly end in your death. The armed working class will come out of necessity when the movement is directly threatened by the bourgeoisie who will use various tactics from police, to the army, and even gangs of fascist thugs to physically eliminate the strikers and demonstrators etc.

"Only armed workers detachments, who feel the support of tens of millions of toilers behind them, can successfully prevail against fascist bands. The struggle against fascism does not start in the editorial office but in the factory -- and ends in the street. Scabs and private gunmen in factory plants are the basic nuclei of the fascist army. Strike pickets are the basic nuclei of the proletarian army. This is our point of departure. In connection with every strike and street demonstration it is imperative to propagate the necessity of creating workers' groups for self-defense. It is necessary to write this in the program of the revolutionary wing of the trade unions."

-Leon Trotsky The Transitional Program.


This is a really excellent excerpt but must always be considered in context. This sort of basic proletarian organization for self-defense is only possible inside a mass movement, and will only develop into true workers' militias as the need arises.

[thejambo1]

im not a trot but the last post is spot on. trotsky is spot on in the workers struggle here. we have to organise not as some militia like the fash, this is the way they organise but is not how the workers should organise.

[KrazyRabidSheep]

I'm sure this question is repeatedly asked among rev lefties (or is it rev lefters?), but are there any active and organized left wing militias? Those that stand armed against tyranny and facism? I've been in the peaceful movement my entire life and will hopefully always remain so, however lately with the states and parties pulling further and further from each other and the definitions and precedents of neo-conservative facist agenda being met, violence among parties in the United States has a relative, unfortunate chance of taking place in the future. It is disheartening that more militant left wing organizations aren't going public and gaining momentum.

If it comes to an armed struggle, I will support a revolution not with guns and fire-power, but with bandages and medical expertise.

If I find myself in such a situation, however, I will not treat revolutionaries exclusively, but preform triage and treatment in the manner of my training, ability, and personal discretion among all wounded: revolutionary, opposition, and civilian, as I would in any multiple-casualty incident.

However, bottom line: if it came to an armed revolution, I would freely offer my services to revolutionary forces assuming I wasn't expected to handle a weapon.

[Dros]

i have a small militia of about 20 people with light gun training we call ourselves the red guard.

:lol:

[nvm]

i have a small militia of about 20 people with light gun training we call ourselves the red guard.

Either you are joking either you are stupid.

Go now at the mountains and fight against capitalism.
I bet that in 3 days either they ll have spotted you and sent u to guantanamo and rape your ass, or a wolf will eat you.

[Sugar Hill Kevis]

Armed revolutionary groups in western societies that try and base themselves on third world liberation movements have seemed to do more harm than good. The Brigate Rosse were great at ostracising a lot of normal working people during the turmoil in 1970s Italy.

[nvm]

Armed revolutionary groups in western societies that try and base themselves on third world liberation movements have seemed to do more harm than good.

They are characterized by Bonapartism.
Just like them (http://www.revleft.com/vb/mao-and-chinese-p1175980/index.html#post1175980)

[Guerrilla22]

Michigan has a state militia which is made up of looney, right wing, government conspiracy types.