The Stalin Kiddie Phenomena

[Dimentio]

I wonder when the original Stalin Kiddie did emerge from the mists of time, and exactly what it was that produced that cultural meme?

I think we could agree that Stalin kiddies have no conception of communism or any other ideology more than what they have read from mostly pro-establishment sources.

I wonder if it is a sense of loneliness and alienation, as well as a meek or absent father which spurs fixation with Stalin as a role model?

One question is if Stalin kiddies are a problem for the left, or a possible asset. I think one of the positive sides is that it sucks up boys which otherwise maybe would have become fascists to instead take interest in communism. On the other hand, Stalin kiddies tend to be terribly opinionated and uneducated.

[AK-1917]

Perhaps the real problem is sectarian asses.

[Prairie Fire]

Ironically, the first "Stalin kiddies" were probably Nikita Kruschev and his associates :D.

They had a poor of grasp of Marxism-Leninism (and/or deliberately twisted it,), and are now generally believed to be the initiators and propogators of the Stalin "cult of persynality", of which koba himself had nothing but disdain. As Lenin said of Marx's legacy in State and Revolution,

"...attempts are made to convert them into harmless icons, to canonize them, so to say, and to hallow their names to a certain extent for the “consolation” of the oppressed classes and with the object of duping the latter, while at the same time robbing the revolutionary theory of its substance, blunting its revolutionary edge and vulgarizing it.

...Which was the policy of Kruschev and his clique, praising Stalin to the high heavens, and putting measures in motion to exhalt his name, which stalin himself sometimes cancelled ( An attempted childrens book about "young Stalin" that would teach morals to soviet kids, was never released from the presses, and pulped on orders from Koba.).

In essence, yes, they were the original "Stalin-kiddies" in the time of Stalin himself, praising his name, but ignoring his theoretical content.



I wonder if it is a sense of loneliness and alienation, as well as a meek or absent father which spurs fixation with Stalin as a role model?

In some cases I have seen that as true, although in general I am annoyed with attempts to equate anti-revisionism as a persynality/pschological disorder.:glare:


One question is if Stalin kiddies are a problem for the left, or a possible asset.

In my experience, they do more harm then good. There are many reasonably informed, intelligent, active and tactfull communists who I also think do more harm than good, so naturally Stalin kiddies accomplish next to nothing in terms of anything positive, rather propagation of bourgois stereotypes of Stalin and of communists, allowing them to write off Marxism-Leninism as a juvenile lifestyle fad.



Perhaps the real problem is sectarian asses.


I know that sentiments like that sound good, and people have a knee-jerk reaction to nod along to them, but history shows us that the only succesful revolutionary movements were almost always sectarian, usually rabidly so.

[Holden Caulfield]

i think Stalinist kiddies for all their annoyance and the fact they may stay Stalinists, are alright if they bring new blood to the movement and change their views to be more in line with marxism or reality,

same thing with 'che kiddies' of which i was one...

[Dros]

For how long have there been politically immature people who like Stalin?

Probably since Stalin became significant in Russian politics!

The implication here is that there are more politically immature people who read Stalin then there are politically immature people who read, Trotsky, Kropotesta, or Mahkno.

There will always be immature people with odd views. In every kind of leftism, these people exist.

This phenomenon should really be the "put so-n-so's name here"-kiddie phenomenon. That would really be more to the point.

[Dimentio]

For how long have there been politically immature people who like Stalin?

Probably since Stalin became significant in Russian politics!

The implication here is that there are more politically immature people who read Stalin then there are politically immature people who read, Trotsky, Kropotesta, or Mahkno.

There will always be immature people with odd views. In every kind of leftism, these people exist.

This phenomenon should really be the "put so-n-so's name here"-kiddie phenomenon. That would really be more to the point.

The Stalin kiddies seldom read what Stalin wrote. Typical Stalin kiddies are persons like aussiestalinist, or great chairman MLS.