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Zurdito
12th June 2008, 00:39
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article4116599.ece

apparently many pro-Cuba MP's voted for the government in return for a commitment on behalf of the governemnt to consider at some point in the near, distant or medium future, looking at perhaps one day easing sanctions on Cuba. Tlak about "leftism for export only" :rolleyes: More on that to come.

Also the supposedly left-wing John Cruddas voted with the government.

BIG BROTHER
12th June 2008, 00:56
42 days, dam, they could do a lot of shit in 42 days:scared: What's the excuse they used for this law? Terrorism?

Sam_b
12th June 2008, 01:03
Britain introduces 42 days detention without trial

Sorry to be severely pedantic, but its not yet happened. The Bill now goes to debate and voting in the House of Lords, who are likely to vote it down, and even if they vote for it will come in around Autumn-Early 2009.

As obvious as it is that the Lords vote means nothing, it will still go back to Parliament for amendments, though it could be pushed through via the Parliament Act in such a state. This will take much longer though, and its debatable if they will make that push or just accept defeat.

There is still time to rally against this! I sense a protest coming on...

Zurdito
12th June 2008, 01:14
Sorry to be severely pedantic, but its not yet happened. The Bill now goes to debate and voting in the House of Lords, who are likely to vote it down, and even if they vote for it will come in around Autumn-Early 2009.

As obvious as it is that the Lords vote means nothing, it will still go back to Parliament for amendments, though it could be pushed through via the Parliament Act in such a state. This will take much longer though, and its debatable if they will make that push or just accept defeat.

There is still time to rally against this! I sense a protest coming on...

Yes you're right actually. there's a good chance it won't get through the House of Lords. Good point.

Still, this was a big victory for the government in poltiical terms, even if practically it makes little difference.

Sam_b
12th June 2008, 01:26
Absolutely. This Labour government will always be remembered for its role in the butchering of Iraq, and they are hell bent on creating a legacy which denies civil liberties and encourages racism and islamophobia in all institutions.

Can't believe they only won by 9 votes. NINE!

Mather
13th June 2008, 06:29
Also the supposedly left-wing John Cruddas voted with the government.


There is nothing left-wing about John Cruddas, he is just another parasite politician, of the more 'Old' Labour variant, who will sometimes talk about equality and yes, maybe once or twice mention the word socialism, to keep the working class tied to the Labour Party, which has always been and is, just another party of the capitalist class and it's system.

The Labour Party, all it's MP's and all of it's party members, serve their masters, the capitalist class.

The excuse Cruddas made for his vote was not because he agreed with it, but because he did not want to "damage the reputation" of Gordon Brown.

Forget the wholesale destruction of what little liberties we had, forget the numerous cases of people being locked up without trial in the future, this parasite politician can only think of the fate of Brown's shoddy career.

This fucker is beyond contempt, just like the other 658 parasites that sit in the House of Commons.



Can't believe they only won by 9 votes. NINE!


Thanks to the Democratic Unionist Party (DUP).

It now turns out that the DUP had around four or five meetings with Gordon Brown this week. The government is to give the Northern Ireland government (which is led by the DUP) £200 million in funding and to make changes to the embryology and fertilisation bill, so as to prevent this bill from taking effect in Northen Ireland, as the DUP is a Protestant fundamentalist party that is opposed to abortion.

The DUP have nine seats in the UK parliament, by buying off the support of the DUP, Gordon Brown got his 42 day detention bill through.