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Sand Castle
11th June 2008, 06:49
They have a website, but I don't understand anything there. The Wikipedia article seemed nice, but it seems like something is missing.

One of the SPK's slogans was:
"The system has made us sick. Let us strike the death blow to the sick system."


Does this mean that capitalism is the cause of all mental illnesses (like anxiety, depression, etc)?

They've been associated with anti-psychiatry, but they deny that they're anti-psychiatry.

Sand Castle
11th June 2008, 07:06
Here is something I understand. Very nice.


Theses and Principles

(From the book "SPK – Turn Illness into a Weapon (http://www.spkpfh.de/AusDerKrankheitEineWaffeMachen.html)",
KRRIM – PF-Verlag fuer Krankheit)
11 x ILLNESS



Illness is condition and result (Voraussetzung und Resultat) of the relations of production (Produktionsverhältnisse) in capitalism.
Illness being the totality of conditions of capitalist relations of production is the productive power (force of production, Produktivkraft) par excellence for capitalism.
As the result of capitalist relations of production illness in its developed form as protest of life against capitalism is the revolutionary productive power par excellence for all human beings.
Illness is the only form in which "life" in capitalism is possible.
Illness and capitalism are identical: in the same measure in which dead capital (totes Kapital) is accumulated, a process which runs parallel to the annihilation of human work, so-called capital-annihilation (Kapitalvernichtung), becoming a common matter, illness becomes more widespread and increasingly malign (Verbreitung und Intensität von Krankheit nimmt zu).
Relations of production in capitalism involve that living work (lebendige Arbeit) has to be turned into dead matter (tote Materie: commodities, capital). Illness expresses this process, which is in permanent progress and gaining ground.
Illness is the veiled unemployment and in the form of social security contributions being imposed (Sozialabgaben) illness is crisis-buffer (Krisenpuffer) par excellence in neo-capitalism (late capitalism, post-capitalism, Spätkapitalismus).
Illness in its undeveloped form is inhibition and impediment and therefore the inner prison of the lonely ones (der Einzelnen).
If we get illness released from administration, exploitation (Verwertung) and the custody (Verwahrung) through the institutions of health and if illness emerges in the form of collective resistance there is the situation, that the state has to intervene in order to substitute the inner prison of the patients by external, "real" (richtige) prisons.
The health system can get along with illness only on condition that patients are totally outlawed.
Health is nothing but a biologistic-nazisticfigment of the mind (http://www.spkpfh.de/Against_health.htm) (Gesundheit ist ein biologistisch-nazistisches Hirngespinst), the function of this figment is to veil in the heads of the making-stupids and of the made-stupids (Verdummer und Verdummten dieser Erde) that illness is conditioned by society and also to veil the social function of illness.






http://www.spkpfh.de/11_times_illness.htm

ÑóẊîöʼn
19th April 2009, 08:25
Here is something I understand. Very nice.

"Very nice" are not the words I would use. "Cranky looking" is more like it. Although I do admit the possibility that the translation may be at fault.

dez
19th April 2009, 08:47
They have a website, but I don't understand anything there. The Wikipedia article seemed nice, but it seems like something is missing.

One of the SPK's slogans was:
"The system has made us sick. Let us strike the death blow to the sick system."


Does this mean that capitalism is the cause of all mental illnesses (like anxiety, depression, etc)?

They've been associated with anti-psychiatry, but they deny that they're anti-psychiatry.

The SPK merged into RAF ages ago, no?

You seem to speak as if they existed on the present tense.



They werent really anti psychiatry, from what I get their argument was that capitalism produced most of the so-called mental illnesses and acted in a way to liberate patients from capitalism and their afflictions (they had, for an example, scheduled analysis and bombing workshops in the same curriculum) by somehow accepting their so called diseases and using it as a weapon of liberation.
They were against the treatment, though.



And I checked the website, they claim to be the SPK and go on about the same things.
Im confused.

k2007
19th April 2009, 21:42
Wikipedia and other liars, with their bullshit lies, will only mislead you on your attempt to truly understand PF/SPK(H) and the ILLNESS CONCEPT.

So, you are on the right direction when clicking the PF/SPK(H) stromzeitung:
www . spkpfh . de

One truly example is the 11xIllness posted in this thread taken from PF/SPK(H) stromzeitung.
Another example, against the misleading lies posted in this thread, please refer to:
www . spkpfh . de / Gossipcide.htm

Finally, we are not able to post web-links here but for a change, it is not forbidden for you to contact PF/SPK(H) or yes?

Nils T.
19th April 2009, 22:06
The first SPK of the 70's has not much to do with the current PF/SPK that holds the health institutions as a central element of capitalist system, and humanists morals as a central element of its criticism. And also spams every forum where these three letters appear, and uses constantly comparisons with the nazi regime.

Hoxhaist
19th April 2009, 22:10
The SPK merged into RAF ages ago, no?
The original SPK did join the RAF but this appears to be a re-emergence of the group

Pirate Utopian
19th April 2009, 22:19
Finally, we are not able to post web-links here but for a change, it is not forbidden for you to contact PF/SPK(H) or yes?
Looks like Nils T. is right.

You cant post links until you made 25 posts.

Nils T.
19th April 2009, 22:34
Also, the australian indus band of the same name and same inspiration made great things.

Pirate Utopian
19th April 2009, 23:22
I agree, awesome band.

Blackscare
19th April 2009, 23:52
Sound like a bunch of incoherent nutters, if you ask me.


Wikipedia and other liars, with their bullshit lies, will only mislead you on your attempt to truly understand PF/SPK(H) and the ILLNESS CONCEPT.

So, you are on the right direction when clicking the PF/SPK(H) stromzeitung:
www . spkpfh . de

One truly example is the 11xIllness posted in this thread taken from PF/SPK(H) stromzeitung.
Another example, against the misleading lies posted in this thread, please refer to:
www . spkpfh . de / Gossipcide.htm

Finally, we are not able to post web-links here but for a change, it is not forbidden for you to contact PF/SPK(H) or yes?

Marion
20th April 2009, 19:49
I got the impression that the present-day SPK had been going for a while, although I am unsure of its exact link with the SPK that pretty much joined the RAF en masse and was involved in the Stockholm embassy debacle.

I'll confess that I got one of their pamphlets/books a few years ago and found it almost impossible to read. It was full of jargon and appeared to be either hilariously badly written or just translated by someone with only the barest of acquaintances with English. One of the very few books I've actually given up trying to understand...

bcbm
20th April 2009, 19:52
Sound like a bunch of incoherent nutters, if you ask me.

Well no shit.