Socialism

[Binary011]

Is socialism necessarily equal to nationalizing all of the means of production?

[Bright Banana Beard]

In this forum's sense, the control will be send to workers and not some politician. However, I will let other comrade to explain more about this since I am not a expert on "Socialism" practice.

[Q]

Is socialism necessarily equal to nationalizing all of the means of production?
No.

The nationalisation of the means of production and putting it under workers control and management is only a means to start working on the socialistic tasks, not the goal in itself. Socialism is the transitionary phase towards communism, a society without classes or state and where everyone is completely freed by any social constraints, and as such its tasks are defined:
- Economically: the task of solving the material inequalities as inherited from capitalism. This can only be done via an economy that is far more productive than capitalist society: 1) democratically planned economy to fulfill in the needs of all and 2) international cooperation, as we live in a global economic system and it doesn't help if we only socialise a small part out of that.
- Politically: While there were more examples, the Russian Revolution was the most fargoing in the political sense by having a soviet democracy where the working class was in power. Within this structure society is directly democratic on the workplace and the neighbourhood level. On citywide level there are chosen representatives that are directly chosen by the people, earn a normal workers wage and can be recalled at any given time. The same principle goes for regional, national or international level.
- Culturally: The material conditions dominate the cultural level. Socialism needs a substantially higher cultural level than capitalism as we don't need mindless robots but free people that govern society by themselves. In the Russian Revolution, a society coming from a feudal cultural level with an 85% illiteracy rate, many schools, social programs, etc were started to try to raise it. But the isolation of the Revolution and thusly its incapability to develop economically and consequently the Stalinist authoritarian degeneration, meant that cultural level remained low.

[Kwisatz Haderach]

Is socialism necessarily equal to nationalizing all of the means of production?
Nationalizing all of the means of production is indeed a vital component of socialism. But it is only a part, only the beginning.

All socialist societies would have nationalized the means of production, but not every society that nationalizes the means of production is socialist.

[Svante]

then why dont countrys nationalise pétrole

[Malakangga]

between yes and no