Human Nature

[Binary011]

Two questions, What motivation would people have to work in communism if they are all paid the same? Second, Doesn't communism go against human nature? Thanks in advance for answers

[Bright Banana Beard]

Two questions, What motivation would people have to work in communism if they are all paid the same? Second, Doesn't communism go against human nature? Thanks in advance for answers

Welcome to the forum, wage (slavery) is abolish in communism. The simple explanation of how we will run is "From each to his own ability, to each to his needs." (Comrade, correct me if I said it wrong) You can check on MadMoney's topic on the first page of "Learning" section.

Human nature doesn't exist as it is only a theory. But IMO, Human nature change according to the function of the society.

[DancingLarry]

Two questions, What motivation would people have to work in communism if they are all paid the same? Second, Doesn't communism go against human nature? Thanks in advance for answers

It might be so if human nature wants one thing and one thing only, more money, and there's nothing else that is important to a human being. When I hear this argument from people, I'm more than willing to believe that these particular people in fact only care about money to the exclusion of all else. I happen to think, however, and it's been my experience, that people of that "nature" are in the minority, and a small one at that.

[Bastable]

What motivation would people have to work in communism if they are all paid the same?


Their motivation to work is the betterment of humankind/ the desire to help their peers etc etc...



Second, Doesn't communism go against human nature?
the fact that 'human nature' doesn't exist aside, why would cooperation, equality, progress, rationalism etc, go against humanity? If anything our present system where competition for survival is the order of the day is a detriment to humanity.

[Niccolò Rossi]

Two questions, What motivation would people have to work in communism if they are all paid the same?

In a communist society people are not paid at all! They draw freely from the existing social product and contribute freely to the social labour necessary.

In a socialist society on the other hand, people may not freely draw from the social product, rather their labour is compensated directly by the "Labor-time vouchers" which they use to acquire consumer goods. It should be noted that these labour time vouchers are not allocated equally to each member of society.

A labour-time voucher is allocated to an individual in recognition of the completion of a certain number of socially necessary labour hours. If one person labours for 4 hours a day and the second for 6 hours, the later would receive a greater quantity of labour-time vouchers and thus a greater quantity of consumer goods. Likewise if two people were to work for the same length of time, but one produced, in that time, double of what is considered socially necessary for that time period, they would receive double the amount of labour-time vouchers.


Second, Doesn't communism go against human nature?

No, without going into too much detail (I'm pressed for time) human nature is dynamic and dependant upon certain modes of production and social formations.

[Kwisatz Haderach]

Two questions, What motivation would people have to work in communism if they are all paid the same?
Several motivations. First, boredom. No one wants to just sit down and stare at a wall the whole day. One of the goals of communism is to abolish the distinction between "work" and "play" so that the main avenue for social interaction and having fun with your friends is the workplace. Work must become a fun activity - or, to put it differently, having fun must become a productive activity.

A second important motivation is peer pressure. If you don't work, people will look down on you, talk about you behind your back, and you probably won't have any friends.

Then there is prestige. You can still become famous in a communist society, and no doubt many people will try to become famous scientists or artists or something else. Notice that there are numerous jobs already, in capitalist society, that rely mainly on prestige, and not so much on money, to recruit people.


Second, Doesn't communism go against human nature? Thanks in advance for answers.
What is this "human nature" and where can I see it? It's human nature to eat, drink, sleep, have sex, make friends, and die. That's about it. Communism certainly doesn't go against any of those things. As for anything else that communism might go against, it's up to you to prove that it's part of human nature.

Notice that just because lots of people currently do something, that doesn't necessarily make it part of human nature. To use an extreme example, we all wear clothes, but it's certainly not part of human nature to wear clothes - we can take them off if we want to, and there are some humans who don't wear clothes.

[gla22]

Two questions, What motivation would people have to work in communism if they are all paid the same? Second, Doesn't communism go against human nature? Thanks in advance for answers

Marx said people would receive different amounts for how hard they worked and the nature of their work.

[piet11111]

for as far as there is such a thing as "human nature" the thing that makes us human is that we can over-ride it through reason.
that is what separates us from the animals in that we do not run on instincts auto-pilot.

and about equal pay how about we all just work to live on the same standard as multi-millionaires do today ?
sure billionaires will be pissed but we do not give a damn about them anyway.
the rest of humanity (say ~99.9999%) will see a massive improvement to their quality of life.