celtic autonomy

[Dr Mindbender]

what do you make of this?

http://celticleague.net/

[Holden Caulfield]

balls,
nationalism for the sake of nationalism,
apart from some cases in northern ireland the 'celtic' people are treated exactly the same as non-celtic peoples, it is a distraction for the working class and pointless to boot

[PRC-UTE]

That organisation may do some good work on human rights, but their origins are as shady as you can get- such as Breton nationalists who collaborated with the Nazis...

[Joe Hill's Ghost]

Sounds like a cadre of silly nationalists to me. Cultural autonomy yes, but not at the expense of the unity of working people.

[Zurdito]

Waste of time.

Undoubtedly, Catholic communities in Northern Ireland are oppressed, and Britain has a history of oppressing Ireland in general and we should defend Ireland against any British attempts to re-impose its will there.

But "Celtic autonomy", no way, there's no institutional oppression against "celts".

[Dr Mindbender]

personally i'm less sceptical than some for the following reasons.

Re-imposition of the 'british' hegemony over ireland-
yes this is duly noted, but by in large this was very anglo-centric in origin and had nothing to do with the consensus of the scottish or welsh populace. To the contrary, Scotland Ireland and Wales have never born each other specific ill will, as their animosity seems to have been directed to the common denominator to the south east ie. England.

The greater prominence of the left within Scotland and Wales- It is naive to ignore the fact that in England especially, the right wing are stubbornly entrenched in the parliamentary system. With the rising success of the BNP, things can only get worse.
By removing itself from the Union it would provide opportunites IMO for the left of the 'celtic 3' to take advantage of greater proportional standing. Hopefully, the victories won would act as a domino effect, taking the red tide further afield, including England itself.

[spartan]

The greater prominence of the left within Scotland and Wales- It is naive to ignore the fact that in England especially, the right wing are stubbornly entrenched in the parliamentary system. With the rising success of the BNP, things can only get worse.
By removing itself from the Union it would provide opportunites IMO for the left of the 'celtic 3' to take advantage of greater proportional standing. Hopefully, the victories won would act as a domino effect, taking the red tide further afield, including England itself.

I was thinking this myself.

Also all the Tories need to do to become the largest party in Parliament and form a government, is to win the majority of constituencies in southern England, whilst the rest of the country (Who voted for Labour back in the days when they were "left wing") would have to suffer under a right wing government which they didnt even vote for! (Where are the demands for equal sized electoral districts like the Chartists argued for?)

What should also be noted is that the union was forced on all the non-English regions of the British Isles by the English establishment (And no amount of "Treaties of union" signed by bribed nobles of these militarily conquered regions will ever justify it).

Therefore you could ask the question "Are the Celtic regions of Britain under illegal occupation by England?"

Certainly no leftist would dispute that Northern Ireland is illegally occupied by Britain so why the double standards when concerning Cornish, Manx, Scottish and Welsh attempts to break free from the forcefully imposed union?

Personally i think that a Federation of Britain, with all the regions being autonomous Republics with devolved governments, would probably be best, but then you have to realise that both Scotland and Wales now have independence seeking centre-left Nationalists either in power (SNP in Scotland) or sharing power (Plaid Cymru in Wales) which says that the majority of people in these nations have come over to the idea that, at the very least, greater autonomy for there nation is something that is good.