Communist Jobs

[MadMoney]

I know some people tried to explain this in another thread, but I don't get jobs and work in a communist environment...so...

Do people just pick any job they want? What if they are not good at it? Who does undesirable jobs? What would happen to someone who doesn't want to work....ever? What would happen if someone refuses to work unless someone else does something for him that meets his standards (voluntary exchange)?

I realize that I don't know much about Communist theory. I am far from a Communist. But I would like to better understand the appeal of Communism. Please don't just repeat what Marx or someone else said (I'd rather hear what you think) or talk down to me. I am ignorant but not dumb.

[Sam_b]

You can't boycott capitalism. As long as you don't control the means of production, you are a worker.

[MadMoney]

That didn't help at all...

[Bright Banana Beard]

Do people just pick any job they want?
Yes, according to his hobby or interest

What if they are not good at it?Why would they keep doing it if they don't want to work on it?
Define "good"


Who does undesirable jobs?You think many people will want to work on dirty environment that is unsafe to them? However, it must be the voluntary because they can't complain as they know they can clean it.


What would happen to someone who doesn't want to work....ever?I doubt this, they all have some of dream and they will do it, or they can suicide if they want to do it but we want to make sure they are not retard to make that decision, by attending therapy section. However, we not gonna force him, but strongly ADVISE him not to do so.

What would happen if someone refuses to work unless someone else does something for him that meets his standards (voluntary exchange)? The community can serve him thing he wants as long it is reasonable, of course.
But I would like to better understand the appeal of Communism. You can read http://libcom.org/book/export/html/3 to understand more about commodity relationship(but I am not sure is this word are correct to use.).[/quote]

[MadMoney]

Being good at a job means being compitent. Suppose I love making cars. Except they all don't work. I am not good at my job.

By undesirable jobs, I mean it in the economic sense, not just a shitty job. Some jobs are considered to be undesirable because they are incredibly dangerous (ice road trucking vs regular trucking). The only reason the less desirable job is taken is profit motive. How would these jobs get done?

I still don't understand why anyone would want to work very hard if they could easily work less and benefit the same.

[Bright Banana Beard]

Being good at a job means being compitent. Suppose I love making cars. Except they all don't work. I am not good at my job.
You go to school to learn more about how to make it work, or you continue to make the car unworkable, Education is free and open to all age under communism and even more, you can straight go back to making car.


By undesirable jobs, I mean it in the economic sense, not just a shitty job. Some jobs are considered to be undesirable because they are incredibly dangerous (ice road trucking vs regular trucking). The only reason the less desirable job is taken is profit motive. How would these jobs get done?
By listening to what they want in reasonable sense, or let the technology handle these job.


I still don't understand why anyone would want to work very hard if they could easily work less and benefit the same. The working hour, if you ask me, will be usually 2 hours since the hierarchy structure, military and the government is basically non-existant and there will be voluntary call for section. Technology that will help to produce more items or services is even more good.

[F9]

Do people just pick any job they want? What if they are not good at it?
yes its their choice,but they wouldnt go with a job if they are not good at it because if they dont meet the standarts in the finally products,they will be affected too.Say if someone likes to ake but he sucks at baking,if he would go with that job the product wouldnt be good,it would be less and it wouldnt fill the needs of the community,and as chain result something would affect him!

Who does undesirable jobs?
If the job is in need of the community,and they need it,surely there would be volunteers!They will want to improve,they wont want just to work and eat!

What would happen to someone who doesn't want to work....ever?
No work,no food.(exceptions of people who really cant work for some reasons!

What would happen if someone refuses to work unless someone else does something for him that meets his standards (voluntary exchange)?
If his "demand" is logical ok,if not,not even he wont get the exchange but he wouldnt get food!No work-no food!

Fuserg9:star:

[trivas7]

The appeal of communism is the dream of a non-exploitative society, with all the implications for change that means in terms of how people treat each other. Details that you're asking re are not to the point. Can you imagine what that society would be like? We believe that such a world is possible. That is the appeal of communism.

[Dros]

The idea of having one profession is grounded in capitalist production relations.

Under Communism, an individual would probably be encouraged to do a lot of thinks to contribute to production, knowledge, and culture

[gla22]

Being good at a job means being compitent. Suppose I love making cars. Except they all don't work. I am not good at my job.

By undesirable jobs, I mean it in the economic sense, not just a shitty job. Some jobs are considered to be undesirable because they are incredibly dangerous (ice road trucking vs regular trucking). The only reason the less desirable job is taken is profit motive. How would these jobs get done?

I still don't understand why anyone would want to work very hard if they could easily work less and benefit the same.

Marx said wages would not be equal in the communist manifesto. If the collective needs an accountant and there are very few the accountant will get a higher wage than say an assembly line worker. They all will get an equal share of the profits of the company however.