death penalty in the US - 2/3 are mistakes

[peaccenicked]

http://www.aclu.org/death-penalty/
The cappies focus on the human right abuse of countries they want to economically control. Saudi Arabia is hardly ever in the news. Needless to say they dont believe that charity begins at home.

[Capitalist]

I agree 100%.

Saudi Arabia is not a democracy. The royal family there is a prime example of evil capitalism. They have suppressed democracy for years and the democratic nations, including the USA has supported this royal abuse of power because of oil.

Although monarchy does not compare to the evils of communistic and facist tyrannys, nevertheless it is a form of government that prohibits true democracy and freedom. That's why I lack respect for England.

As for the justice system in the USA, I totally agree it is completely flawed and a failure. Capitalistic Lawyers rule the system. They are out for the money, not for justice.

I do not believe in the death penalty either - it is too easy of an out for hard-core criminals. The criminals should be sent to Alaska and serve hard labor for their crimes and freeze their balls off (especially the child molestors and child killers). Witness testimony does not make good for evidence either. DNA needs to be used. Witness testimony is just not concrete evidence.

For once I agree. The entire justice system in the USA needs an entire overhaul. It is completely outdated and inefficient.

[peaccenicked]

If you were to believe as I do, that tyranny is a betrayal of communism, that liberal capitalism altough better than tyranny can be replaced by a true form of socialism based on respect for human rights, including positive control over one's labour power, by which I mean an equal democratic voice in the workplace, in the education, health, judiciary systems and the decentralisation of power in the media.
You could be on our side completely.

[Guest]

of course! the ACLU!

2/3? this is propsterous!

hardly

[PaulDavidHewson]

"Although monarchy does not compare to the evils of communistic and facist tyrannys, nevertheless it is a form of government that prohibits true democracy and freedom. That's why I lack respect for England. "

I happen to come from the netherlands and the monarchy we have here is merely symbolic.
There are many debates about abolishing monarchy here, but then again it's merely symbolic and holds no true power.
If I'm not mistaking Englands monarchy system is very symbolic as well. The Queen or King does not have to power to propose a new law for instance.
Having a monarchy in this time and age like that in the Netherlands or England is like preserving an ancient house. It has no true function anymore, but it's nice to have in the landscape.

You say you lack respect for england because of the monarchy? Well, perhaps you should not have respect for england for having no backbone and being USA's lapdog.


You know why I lack respect nowadays for the USA??
For wanting to ignore the UN.
USA sees the UN as a pile of shit.
They accidently stepped in this pile of shit and now they're wiping it from their boots. They also learned a lesson from it. Walk around the shit instead of stepping in it.
This seems like a proper "behind-the-scene bush statement" to me.


Anyway, it seems like i'm back.
Just as a reminder, I'm slightly economic left(-3 or something) and slightly liberal(-4 or something) :)

[antieverything]

1 out of 9 are mistakes, not 2/3.

[peaccenicked]

The voice of american imperialism helps to prove some of you guys are way off course.
http://www.cnn.com/2000/LAW/06/11/death.pe...alty/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2000/LAW/06/11/death.penalty/index.html)

(Edited by peaccenicked at 11:55 am on Oct. 2, 2002)

[ArgueEverything]

After reading about the case of Shaka Sankofa some time last year, I utterly despise the concept of capital punishment. Poor defendants who can't afford a lawyer are, in some states like Texas, given a COURT-APPOINTED lawyer, i.e. chosen by the judge. And since judges are elected in Texas, and want to look 'tough on crime' for public consumption, they will often deliberately appoint incompetent lawyers so the defendant has no chance of winning. How's that for justice.

[Valkyrie]

There was an execution this morning in Florida and another scheduled for next month. Who's the governor there? None other than Jeb Bush. Nope. No pardons from the Bush bros.

well, the thing about court-appointed lawyers is that they're on the state payroll, so it's in their benefit for job longevity to lose the cases their appointed.

[Stormin Norman]

It's better that 10 innocent men die. than one guilty man go free.

[LOIC]

"It's better that 10 innocent men die. than one guilty man go free."
It shows how stupid you are.

[antieverything]

It's better that 10 innocent men die. than one guilty man go free.
No it isn't...you have to be joking.

[Goldfinger]

Quote: from Stormin Norman on 12:25 pm on Oct. 3, 2002
It's better that 10 innocent men die. than one guilty man go free.

You are a moron.

I really don't think I have to explain why.

[Guest]

I am oppoesd to the death penalty, except in extreme circumstances, as innocent people have been sent to the gallows before. I also oppose it, because death is the easy way out for murderers, a life time of hard labour without any comforts like TV would be a far worse punshiment.

"Although monarchy does not compare to the evils of communistic and facist tyrannys, nevertheless it is a form of government that prohibits true democracy and freedom. That's why I lack respect for England."

Our country's monarchy is now purely constitutionnel and lacks any real power. The monarchy brings in tourists to the country and she advises the prime minister which she has done for over 50 years. Constitutionnel monarchis have also been found by many studies to be the most reliable form of Government. Why do you have disrespect for my country because of our Monarchy?

[Anonymous]

(Edited by Dark Capitalist at 7:22 am on Oct. 6, 2002)


(Edited by Dark Capitalist at 7:26 am on Oct. 6, 2002)

[Anonymous]

All murderers should be killed.

[peaccenicked]

DC is old testament '' murder for murder.''
As Ghandi says ''An eye for an eye leaves everybody blind''
DC's politics are stone age.

[antieverything]

Dark Capitalist, the question is not whether or not murderers deserve to die. The question is if our justice system makes too many mistakes for us to trust it with life or death decisions. The facts tell us that it does.

[ID2002]

The US uses the death penalty but it has killed 1000's of innocent people. In the 1950-1970, more black american died than any other racial group. It was thought that 85% were innocent of any crime.

....sounds like a good system to you? I think not!!