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Field Marshal
29th September 2002, 08:46
This guy on the Guerrilla Forum said this:

Hello... this is my first post to this web site. I don't know much about the background of the people on this web site or of the web site itself. First off, I would like to make known my views of September 11, the World Bank and the Federal Reserve and offer the people of this web site a small insight into my own background. I served in the United States Army and did a tour in Bosnia. What I learned in Bosnia was shattering to myself. It tore me apart to learn the truth of what happenned in this country and the role the US government played over in Bosnia. I felt horrible and betrayed. I discovered that I was terribly niave in believing in the basic integrity of the United States Government. This is a long story that I will tell perhaps in a different post. I want people to understand that I love my country the USA and that I am loyal to america but I also want to get america back to doing things the right and moral way. Currently I am a student of Computer Science here in the state of Georgia (USA). My basic view point on September 11 was that it was an orchestrated event by the US government as an excuse to attack the Taliban because they no longer served the interests of the US government. The Taliban was covertly supported by the US and Unocal sought to build an afghan oil pipeline prior to September 11. The war is clearly about oil and many other things in Afghanistan. I view the Federal Reserve as a private corporation and a cartel. It is nothing more than a scam that robs the american people and fleeces them in the most revolting way. The World Bank and the IMF has the hidden agenda of world socialism by confiscating the wealth of nations by the process of inflation when their Central Banks create money out of nothing and to redistribute this wealth to other nations. It is socialism in the rawest form. I want to tell people the truth and to wake america up and get people to stop this madness before it's too late.
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Now I didn't believe him for some reason so I asked him:

"How is the world bank and IMF aiding socialism? And if truely are working for a socialist world, is that a bad thing?"
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Well first off you have to have a good understanding of the Central Banking mechanism and the Mandrake Mechanism. Our founding fathers had alot of trouble with money that had no backing of gold or silver or precious metal. At the time of the American Revolutionary War they financed this war through the use of fiat money. Fiat is a term coined for money that has no backing to it. In essence Fiat money is based on fraud. It has no intrensic value. So our founding fathers at the time would just print up money out of nothing and use it to pay the soldiers who were fighting in the Contintal Army. What this basically does is artificially expand the money supply causing the value of the dollar to decline. So merchants who want to collect the same amount of value that they did BEFORE the money supply was expanded is to raise the prices of their goods and services to collect more of the devalued dollars AFTER the money supply was expanded. So this caused prices to sky rocket during these times in our history. That is where the term "not worth a Continetal" came from. This is commonly referred to as inflation. Inflation is a tax upon the american people in every sense of the word. It is a hidden tax a subtle tax that few americans understand. Politicians love this tax because they can tax the american people all they want without raising an open and honest tax to where they would be voted out of office. The Federal Reserve is not Federal rather it is a private corporate cartel that was conceived in a meeting at my home state of Georgia at Jekyll Island. Senator Aldrich was one of the politicians who help these rich and powerful bankers to get the Federal Reserve Act passed. The Federal Reserve is a Central Bank and it prints money out of nothing on occasions and we get taxed through the process of inflation. The FDIC doesn't even have enough money to cover all big banks in this country should they fail because they don't charge their fees for insurance based on moral hazzard like car insurance companies do. So what the FDIC "insurance" will do is turn to the Federal Reserve when they can't cover the bailout of banks that have failed and the Fed will create money out of nothing and give it to the FDIC and they in turn give it to the failing banks to pay off the depositers while we get taxed by inflation by these dollars that were created out of nothing. Currently our money is not backed by anything... it is fiat money. It has no intrensic value and through legal tender laws we are forced to accept these dollars at face value even though they are based upon fraud. Government law and force make us accept these fake dollars. The US will also create money out of nothing and send it to the IMF and World Bank, tax us through the process of inflation to confiscate our wealth and "loan" this money to third world nations with the full knowledge these loans will never be repaid and not be used to fight poverty in these third world nations. Instead these "loans" are laundered by the leaders of these nations so that they can keep the money for themselves. Essientally it is a process of redistributing wealth world wide. This process has been going on since the founding of the IMF and World Bank at the Bretton Woods Monetary Conference in New Hampshire in 1944. The founders of the IMF and World Bank were from the Fabian Socialist Society and some Communists that seek to accomplish world wide socialism. The two theoreticians who guided the 1944 Bretton Woods conference were Harry Dexter White and John Maynard Keynes. White was a member of the communist party while Keynes was a member of the Fabian Socialist Society. They shared the goal of international socialism. They have furthered that goal ever since.
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I know the history is fine, but are those claims of the World Bank and IMF true?

Pinko
29th September 2002, 12:55
The IMF may have once had socialist roots, but they are there no longer. A capitalist root stock has been grafted in place.

The IMF has loaned $30 billion to Indonesia during Soeharto's reign, it is estimated that $10 billion of that went straight into the pockets of Soeharto's family and friends. Yet the Indonesian people are responsible for paying back that money.
An IMF official, when interviewed by John Pilger and asked why there was no inquiry into the misuse of this money, why the debt has not been written off, he replied: Because it would bankrupt the IMF, this sort of thing has happened the world over time and time again.
So the Indonesian people still bear the responsibility for repaying $10 billion (plus interest) that they never saw. This debt it crippling to Indonesia, it is keeping the people of this country (that is very rich in natural resources) in abject poverty.
The IMF knows this, yet all it can do is sit back, watch the injustice and worry about bankrupcy.

Edit - Incidently, the dictator Soeharto was one that the US supported. He came to power on a tide of purgings that left an estimated one million pollitical opponents dead. The US and UK welcomed him with open arms (and gifts of arms) because he was to end Indonesia's financial isolation, he was to invite the corporations of the world to come to Indonesia and plunder its natural resources (including cheap labour). Soeharto's policies were hammered out by corporate entities that were dictating the terms of their entrance into Indonesia, they must have thought all their Christmas' had come at once. Indonesia ended up as a crypto-corporate state.

(Edited by Pinko at 1:02 pm on Sep. 29, 2002)